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post #541 of 571 Old 02-19-2015, 08:35 PM
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Yep ... the Q-Perf is quite expensive. Luckily there is a company here that makes it under licence so at least I saved on the transport costs. Here it is again from way up-thread ...



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Interesting. Looks a lot like RPG BAD panels.

http://www.rpginc.com/product_BAD_Panels.cfm
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And that is my confusion. You noted above that every panel had 2 inches of acoustic material in it and then placed some in front of other acoustic products??
The cavity was 2" deep. The board was 1". So I assume he had a full on bass trap with plastic over both sheets. A full on hd absorber with no plastic and 2 boards, and finally a hybrid where the plastic was in the middle. This was likely depending on if it was a first reflection point, rear wall, ceiling to wall border... Just guessing
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And that is my confusion. You noted above that every panel had 2 inches of acoustic material in it and then placed some in front of other acoustic products??
Chuck,

All my 2" panels have plain drywall directly behind them.

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Interesting. Looks a lot like RPG BAD panels.

http://www.rpginc.com/product_BAD_Panels.cfm
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Yes they look very similar, however I believe the BAD panels have a perforated board on the front, whereas the Q-Perf uses perforated 1" fiberglass.

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The cavity was 2" deep. The board was 1". So I assume he had a full on bass trap with plastic over both sheets. A full on hd absorber with no plastic and 2 boards, and finally a hybrid where the plastic was in the middle. This was likely depending on if it was a first reflection point, rear wall, ceiling to wall border... Just guessing
Yep, that pretty much sums it up. The only thing to add is that each of the 1" layers making up the 2" thick panels also had different density.

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Bump for an awesome build!

Spent a wonderful afternoon at Peter's place listening to all sorts of goodness. This was the first time I'd heard the room/system after full calibration. It is all first class as you'd expect, but the thing I found astounding was the quality of the surround experience post calibration, really truly special. Hats off to Jamie for the calibration work, awesome stuff.

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What seats did you get mate? We're in Brisbane and looking at theatre seats (either 4 or 5 across).
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What seats did you get mate? We're in Brisbane and looking at theatre seats (either 4 or 5 across).
I bought IMG from Nice Interiors in Sydney. The seats are European design, made in Asia.

http://www.niceinteriors.com.au/theatre_seating.html

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Bump for an awesome build!

Spent a wonderful afternoon at Peter's place listening to all sorts of goodness. This was the first time I'd heard the room/system after full calibration. It is all first class as you'd expect, but the thing I found astounding was the quality of the surround experience post calibration, really truly special. Hats off to Jamie for the calibration work, awesome stuff.
Thanks Peter !

It always a pleasure to have you over. Amazing how quickly three hours can disappear !!

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The screen's been in for a few weeks and finally here's a pic ...



Had a big weekend and finally the PJ is in. Firstly porthole in rear wall (glass still to be installed) ...,
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Hi there Peter. Its been ages. How are you? Room going well?

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Hi there Peter. Its been ages. How are you? Room going well?

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Hi Greg,

Really good to talk to you earlier. We must organise a get together with Peter before the silly season kicks in.

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Sounds great Peter. Good to catch up as well. I am, after almost 5 years, getting towards the end of renovations. Need to tile the rear room, paint, build an outdoor room leading to the pool (by others....I've had enough) and then i may just have some time. Away on a cruise for much of the silly season so hopefully before then. Chat soon. Let's make sure Peter K finishes up first so we don't get roped into helping him! 😊

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Hi, Peter. Awesome theater!

I am a big Thiel fan with three pairs; CS6, CS2.4, and SCS4T that I bought for rear surround duty. I saw your post in Thiel Owners thread for MCS1 and wondered if you still have it? I just registered here at AVS in order to send you a note, but first it wouldn't let me send via PM due to inadequate history, then wouldn't let me respond to your post in that thread as your post had image and I can't post with an image embedded, so I am posting here and hoping you will see. I do have audiogon history under this same ID, and 100% feedback on Ebay as y2kcamaross. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. I hope someday I can make it down under for a visit!

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Hi Randy,

I loved all my Thiel speakers and had many years of pleasure from them, but they just wouldn't have worked in my new room.

The MCS-1 has just gone to a young guy who lives locally. I gave up trying to sell it and posted it on a local forum as a free give away and it was gone to a good home within 24 hours !

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Peter - what did you use for holding the insulation in place? some sort of screw?

How do you get behind the screen to service things? look like there's no space at the side

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Hi Peter

Congrats. Your theater is stunning. i'm planning to do something very similar. i have a few questions:
  1. Did you build the doors to be exactly 3 panels high, or determine panel width based on 1/3 door height
  2. what type of hinge are you using to stop the panels on the door hitting the panels on the wall when you open the door?
  3. Looks like there's no baseboard, is that the case?
  4. What did you do at the wall/ceiling junction? is there some sort of molding or trim?

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How do you get behind the screen to service things? look like there's no space at the side
The screen is not hinged or anything like that. IIRC there are 16 screws holding it to angle brackets which need to be removed. Not a huge job, but certainly a disincentive to tinkering with the stuff behind it.

It's been up for about 2 years now and never been back down.

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Hi Peter

Congrats. Your theater is stunning. i'm planning to do something very similar. i have a few questions:
  1. Did you build the doors to be exactly 3 panels high, or determine panel width based on 1/3 door height
  2. what type of hinge are you using to stop the panels on the door hitting the panels on the wall when you open the door?
  3. Looks like there's no baseboard, is that the case?
  4. What did you do at the wall/ceiling junction? is there some sort of molding or trim?

Thanks

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Thanks for the kind words.

1. I built the doors to be 3 panels high.
2. They're called broad butt hinges. Google - broad butt hinge - images
3. Correct - no baseboard. The bottom panels sit about 1/2" above the carpet.
4. No corner moulding. The top panels sit about 1/2" below the perimeter soffit.

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Thanks for the kind words.

1. I built the doors to be 3 panels high.
2. They're called broad butt hinges. Google - broad butt hinge - images
3. Correct - no baseboard. The bottom panels sit about 1/2" above the carpet.
4. No corner moulding. The top panels sit about 1/2" below the perimeter soffit.

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Hi Pete,

Another question - how high are your LCRs within the screen and in relation to your ear height when seated?

I'm just starting my baffle wall with some toe-in like yours, but I read on Procellas web site regarding putting their speakers in a baffle wall, and in a Dolby white paper that the acoustic center of the speaker should be at 5/8ths of the screen height.

Here it says that the AC should be between 1/2 and 5/8ths:

http://www.acousticfrontiers.com/2013322baffle-walls/

Now I think this is to ensure that the audio is delivered correctly and probably because that's how it was mastered with the speakers placed like that. But that puts the tweeter quite high in relation to the ears of the first row. Most people suggest the speaker should be placed at ear height, but that doesn't take into account screen height/placement.

Your speakers don't seem that high (closer to half way I think) so that's why I thought I'd ask. I hope you can find out without having to remove the screen, as I know that would be a pain and I wouldn't expect you to do that! Maybe a torch shone through the screen?

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Hi Gary,

Apologies for the delay. I seem to have lost subscription to my own thread and didn't get an email.

As to the speaker height - Sketchup knows all !



I hope this helps.

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Hi Pete,

No probs, thanks for the reply

It looks like the tweeters are at the center of the screen and aimed at the second row. Is that where you sit?

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Gary,

Yes, that's pretty much correct. My preference is the second row, but that's not really due to the height of the LCR.

Not surprisingly the front row tends to provide more direct sound from LCR and less surround. The back row changes the balance slightly.

But this is not really from the change of vertical listening angle. Moving up and down in the room (front, rear, standing) makes very little, if any, perceived difference in the FR.

I think the Procellas do this very well.

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Righto. Did Dennis design the second row as the MLP?

I might try some testing (maybe some measuring if I'm keen) to see what difference slightly off axis makes if i have the speakers a tad higher.

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Gary,

I didn't specify an MLP to Dennis, so I understand that the design is intended to provide the best uniform performance over the entire room.

By the time I had the room calibrated I knew which was my seat, so the calibration certainly aimed to please at the MLP !

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If I have the acoustic center of the speakers at the middle of the screen, that puts the tweeter between the ear level of both rows, so assuming the vertical dispersion is much the same, the audio at each seat should hopefully be similar. Sounds like a reasonable compromise. Thanks for your help

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Peter: How did you deal with the unfinished space on either side of the column/door? I did not find a photo to show that.

While I can't put my L+R speakers behind the screen (without spending an outlandish amount of money), I am going to move them closer to the wall and see what i can do to get the visual side of my room to look a bit like yours -still my favorite of this style.
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Hi Chuck,

I don't have a photo handy, however it looks just like the model -



Small panels either side of the column attached to the door. Very time consuming to get right !!

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I don't have a photo handy, however it looks just like the model -



Small panels either side of the column attached to the door. Very time consuming to get right !!

Cheers,
Thanks. I have "room envy" every time I look at your thread (and others that have a similar look). Until I saw your room, I was perfectly happy with the "recording studio look" of mine. The pull of this addiction hobby never seems to let up!!

Also, are there some posts on this thread that go into the detail of your ceiling "cloud"?
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