So, I was able to finish the ceiling with green glue and have been working a litte bit on the walls. Hopefull I get that done soon.
In the meantime I got a great opportunity to buy some leftover OC703 from HuskerOmaha and he brought up a good point about my theater post...It's not real clear what I'm attempting to do with my theater because it really is different than most people's idea for their theater.
I've spent a lot of time working with film files and creating content for DVD's and bluray's, so I've known the in's and out's of these systems. When I saw that Bluray 3D had been approved I thought, 'Finally, Hi Definition 3D material will be available and I can start to do on a big screen like the theaters.' But, because of whatever reason (probably concentration of force in sales for the easiest, best understood manner, e.g. 3D HDTV sales) they haven't pushed for any other technologies for displaying th 3D content aside from the normal active shutter lense, even though, roughly 99.9 percent of people who see a 3D presentation in a theater views the content through a one of the various types of passive technologies
I started looking at ways to do it in dual projection because this method produces the most pure form of the content directly to the viewer. It's constant 1080i (I believe for 3D, 2D is 1080p) images to the viewer. In an active shutter system that's not the case. It's the pure thing that got me going and the fact that I wanted to have a good number of people coming to watch a film here and not having to spend 8x$150 per glass and that's if it's only 8 people.
For my dream to be realized, I knew that it could only be done on the computer because there were certainly some challenges to overcome on the hardware front and no one was making that kind of equipment. So, here's what I was looking for.
1. A bluray player that had 2 HDMI outputs for left and right images.
a. This player also had to have another HDMI output for audio only thus letting me also experience all the HD tracks because it's not available through optical outputs.
2. A computer software that would decode the 3D bluray files for use on a dual projection system.
Well, none of the main companies for hardware, namely Sony, Samsung, Pioneer, LG wanted to build this type of device. I know because I emailed all of them with this idea and all said in essence 'no we're not doing that but take a look at our 3D bluray players we already have.'
Really!? Really!There isn't a demand for it in the High end market? Whatever. It's their company losing out.
So, I set out to do it on the computer. The two largest players for bluray software playback are Arcsoft's Total Media Theatre and Cyberlink's PowerDVD. Before the software update all of them promised 3D playback but it wasn't clear what options would be available. After many emails and some forum posts, it was clear that they didn't intend on implementing it and many of them had no idea of what we were talking about. For fun you can search their forums and laugh at some of their more clueless posts
. Anyways, it was clear that I would have to take matter into my own hands.
I apologize for the long post but I think this will save some poor person trying to do the same thing and having to go through all the problems I encountered. So, here's what you can do in two ways.
1. You need to have two projectors (duh).
2. You need to have a pair of linear or circular polarized plates for 3D. You can find most of these online pretty easily. PM me if you want better info on where to find it or the better company to buy it from.
3. You need to have software to decode the bluray 3D discs. I use AnyDVDHD but there are a variety of programs that do on the fly decoding. The reason is because the next puzzle piece for this mess can't decode the material.
4. Stereoscopic player now has the ability to play .ssif files which are the basic 3D files used to do 3D. You can just select the largest .ssif file and play it and it works. When that ends, just play the next largest or play each one beforehand to see which is the second part.
Now that's essentially what you have to do to play it. But if you want HD audio you will need to figure out how to route it to your receiver and still be able to do dual projection. This was a whole investigation in itself. I went through A LOT of work and research to find out that it's not worth buying a dedicated audio card with HDMI in and output because they are all dedicated to either PowerDVD or Total Media Theater and if you play those .ssif files, or any other file the has a valid HD audio track, outside of those two players, it won't play HD audio.
So, this is a time and money saving tip right here. BUY an Nvidia or AMD graphics card that has on board audio because it does it perfectly fine AND, it doesn't matter where your playing it from because it will decode it e.g. Sterescopic Player.
In order for the hardware to work like this you need to use two outputs on your video card and 1 HDMI slot (absolutely has to be HDMI not DVI to HDMI). Your best bet is AMD because they have a lot of slots and it's typically cheaper. I'm doing 3 AMD 6970's because I'm also using this computer for 3D PC gaming in 1080 and that takes a lot of GPU and CPU crunching. But it comes in handy because I could use one of those extra cards to do just the audio and you just select which one to use in the Windows Playback device setting. Or, you can use one card with 2 outgoing DVI to HDMI cables for the projectors and 1 HDMI going directly to the receiver.
There is another option but it kind of complicates things on the software side and I'm not sure if it will work and it will add more cost. I will be using this next method but only for my 360 or PS3 because there's not dual HDMI outputs on there as well.
From the source, be it PS3 or 360, I will feed a the HDMI cable to a 1x4 or 3 HDMI splitter. This will send the exact same signal through all ports at the same time. One cable will go to the reciever for audio only mode. Two will go into the CH-322 3D Demultiplexer device from Cypress Converters, one for each view. Then obviously to the respective projector. So, in theory you could just use whatever software (PowerDVD or Total Media Theatre) and play through these devices and it should
work. But I haven't tested this yet because the demultiplexer isn't out just yet.
So, I think I've covered enough intel that this will help anyone out there looking to do this method vs. spending 800-1000 dollars on glasses for a 3D movie night.
There is still yet one more challenge to overcome and that's the screen and dual anamorphic projection
. But I will save that for when I get close to putting it up. If I get enough pleads for that info I'll share it earlier but I think that this will suffice for now.
And as always if you have thoughts or questions, share them.