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News Update:

10/6 - Doors came in today!

10/7 - Chairs Arrive (Supposedly)
Equipment room will be sanded
Equipment room will be primed
exposed theater walls will be primed to prevent dust clouds
Exterior wall in the rec room against the theater will be filled with remaining R-13 and drywalled/mudded/taped up.
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Nearing the end now!

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exposed theater walls will be primed to prevent dust clouds

Don't forget the floor too, give it a good wipe down, especially along the bottom of the walls, that's where all the dust from drywall sanding accumulates. That fine dust can sometimes work it's way back up through the carpet when you walk on it. You won't see it, but it'll be there. Don't know how you access the theater, but give the adjacent room/hall a cleaning too, to prevent tracking dust back and forth.
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Stopped in a local carpet store on the way to get the stuff to make the screen wall support structure.

Dixie carpet: (division of Masland)





shaw:







some other things









This little Shaw shop said he could probably order shaw contract lines. So I'm sure others near your house can as well, You should be able to get them to order you a full size sample of that you are interested in.
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Actually I believe I was able to get the Shaw Contract Group samples for free from their website. I just filled registration information in and it let me add them to my cart. There was no cost at all. Odd! I guess they expect huge orders so are more than willing to send out free samples.

I do like that diamond pattern for "Time Out" in that first pic there. (Since it is two reds) Don't like the theater room one. The solid reds look nice but again I'd have to steal them and hold them up. Hesitant to use them.

Ruben says my screen will ship next week by the way.
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I'd have to steal them and hold them up. Hesitant to use them.

Most stores will let you check out samples and will order samples for you as well for free.
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I finally got through your whole thread. looks great. really is coming out nice.

Good luck finishing up. all the best.

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I finally got through your whole thread. looks great. really is coming out nice.

Good luck finishing up. all the best.

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Thanks Jim! I have to admit, it is starting to get very exciting now that we're getting close.
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Again though, the red's would most likely never match in a black/red combo carpet.

About that.... no borders. If we decided to not do red baseboard, then I would go ahead and do a red border with a blackish carpet. But I think the red baseboard will give the same kind of effect.

You know, if you found a red carpet that was close to your column color but not an exact match, you could do black baseboards just on the columns to create a break between the two colors. You are already doing this with your panels, right? The bottom three panels will be black and the top three red?

Personally, I prefer a simple carpet/flooring solution. I think with your design the focal points should be the walls and the ceiling; adding complexity to the floor beyond the physical layout you have would be overkill. But that is just my opinion.

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or you can do a black border around the edges to create that same separation from the red panels and red carpet.

Something like this...



Sorry about the quality. Took it from my iphone of the carpet here at work.
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The other thing I forgot to mention as I just walked by that area of the office that i'm not sure if you can see it or not but the black/dark grey carpet comes up the wall 2-4 inches and acts as trim as well.
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like that black border, and that would work really well on a flat floor. or a square room. It runs into problems in a few places in my room though. The steps to the riser and the columns there. It would look weird to have it wrap around the column and up the step.

But say I did no baseboard. Then it would need to be red border black carpet, and then im back to the black carpet with black chairs.

I think right now I'm either going to be getting one of the following:
1) A solid red that matches the paint (if possible)
2) A patterned red, with 2 reds, one lighter than the other, where one color closely matches the paint.
3) A dark gray/black pattern, where it would be almost black, but not enough to blend in with the panels and chairs.
In any case, I think I'm delaying the carpet decision until I get some samples (I have three of those gray/black pattern samples otw) and the panels done.

News:
Chairs did not make it today. Looks like it might be monday or tuesday. They left OH at 7am this morning so I assume they will reach a local hub today.

The movie room walls got primed gray.
I wired all of the column outlets and have that circuit switched on now.
The wall outside of the movie room got insulated, drywalled, and mudded
The equipment room got sanded and a 2nd mudding so that it can be painted.
Wired up the projector inlet, but couldn't screw it in since it has an gang-box extender. Need bigger screws.
Wired up the stage outlet
Did column touch up paint
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More window shopping, going to make the screen wall supports this PM







this comes in black and gray











This shop is right up 28 from your office, next week maybe you could zip up at lunch time. they also are a big Shaw dealer and if you like those other samples they would be willing to try to get it for you. They said working with the contract division is a PIA.

They also has some gray linear patterns from other vendors, similar in concept to the Shaw but a little more refined for residential.
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More window shopping, going to make the screen wall supports this PM







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This shop is right up 28 from your office, next week maybe you could zip up at lunch time. they also are a big Shaw dealer and if you like those other samples they would be willing to try to get it for you. They said working with the contract division is a PIA.

They also has some gray linear patterns from other vendors, similar in concept to the Shaw but a little more refined for residential.

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When u looked at the disney carpet did they still have the sorcerer mickey carpet? i think there was red version, not only blue, that had some cool star and shooting star imprints on them. that might be an idea to look into for his floor?

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PS i just googled it and shaw isn't showing it anymore. guess it got cut. i know there was one when they first came out. maybe the store big was at still has it?
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Jim that does sound interesting but I didn't spot it.
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I went to a couple of carpet places today with a strip of MDF trim painted with my red paint and wasn't having much luck. I did however see a few things I think would work.

All 3 Shaw Carpet

First:
Hyde Park (I can't find it online)
Color Zodiac.
It's a small 1/4" or so square checker pattern with black as a raised plush and a dark gray as a recessed loop. Looked nice.

Then I saw (and found online)
Desirable Statement (QC048)
Color Solitude
This is the one BIG posted above that has the big diamonds, but in his picture he has the red colored one.


Padova (52V37)
Color Raven
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I went to a couple of carpet places today with a strip of MDF trim painted with my red paint and wasn't having much luck. I did however see a few things I think would work.

All 3 Shaw Carpet

First:
Hyde Park (I can't find it online)
Color Zodiac.
It's a small 1/4" or so square checker pattern with black as a raised plush and a dark gray as a recessed loop. Looked nice.

Then I saw (and found online)
Desirable Statement (QC048)
Color Solitude
This is the one BIG posted above that has the big diamonds, but in his picture he has the red colored one.


Padova (52V37)
Color Raven

I like that design. I personally thing going with a black is a great choice. Will help to make ur walls "pop" more I think.

As a side note, D. . . how are u attaching ur speakers in the column? I think I missed it and can't find it.

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Jim that does sound interesting but I didn't spot it.

I don't think they make it anymore. It was nice though. I remember commenting on it to my wife when they had first come out like 2 years ago now.

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As a side note, D. . . how are u attaching ur speakers in the column? I think I missed it and can't find it.

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Those speakers come with custom brackets. They are shaped like a big T. On the top near each side there is an outward extending clip. The speaker has two opposite clips on the back. You just slide it right on the bracket.
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D, where are all the pictures you took yesterday?

I'll share a couple of the installed minimalist screen wall and the obligatory blue tape shot.



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Those speakers come with custom brackets. They are shaped like a big T. On the top near each side there is an outward extending clip. The speaker has two opposite clips on the back. You just slide it right on the bracket.

So u are going into the drywall with them though. I was just wondering. If so did u plan bracing for them or wasn't it necessary cause of the weight.

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So u are going into the drywall with them though. I was just wondering. If so did u plan bracing for them or wasn't it necessary cause of the weight.

Thanks again,
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We took some scrap wood and used long coarse-thread drywall screws to drill the wood block into the wall (like 4 screws). It was really tight on there. Then the bracket was screwed into the block.
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Here were some pictures of the door installed. It still needs foam and caulk in the gaps around the casing. Notice the wide-throw hinges. This will allow the point of rotation to be beyond our fabric panels.

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Heh, Red, Black, White, Blue, Yellow, Wood... we have a lot of different colors in that shot.

I think I have ruled out Red Carpet by the way. Going with a black pattern or black/gray pattern.
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We took some scrap wood and used long coarse-thread drywall screws to drill the wood block into the wall (like 4 screws). It was really tight on there. Then the bracket was screwed into the block.

Thanks a lot.

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Damelon and I had a conversation about how to trim out the door on the outside of the theater. I suggested that instead of just slapping up the basic builders case molding used in the rest of the house we do something a little special. The large rec room has a half a dozen similar looking doors going off in various directions.

I think we should make it obvious that the theater is "over here"

So what if we made up some case molding just like the face of the soffit, three staggered layers of 1/2 MDF, total of 6 inches wide, then add a keystone. Thickest side on the outside. Paint the door molding and the exterior jam the same red that is used in the theater.

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What are the door jambs made of? Looks like MDF from the pics.
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So what if we made up some case molding just like the face of the soffit, three staggered layers of 1/2 MDF, total of 6 inches wide, then add a keystone. Thickest side on the outside. Paint the door molding and the exterior jam the same red that is used in the theater.

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I like the concept. A red door and trim will certainly pop. How will it look with the rest of that space? I don't know what's going on outside of the theater.

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3/4 mdf

Looks professionally made! You guys are making great progress. Love the wide swing hinges!

Did you wire the projectors electrical outlet to the home panel or to the rack for surge protection, etc.? Also how did you determine the projectors mounting location without knowing which projector will be used? Or did you allow for some tolerance? Are you planning a hush box for the projector?

Also, with regards to the lighting. Does the rope lighting occupy the same space as the halogen lights? (ie, are they spaced far enough apart)

Just an absolutely stunning HT room!
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Looks professionally made!

Thanks Dman, It was from a custom millwork shop, (Name deleted because I'm not happy with them.)

The projector outlet is connected to a power inlet in the equipment room where it will be powered via a power conditioner/protector.
The rope light is in the same space but does not touch the recessed fixtures, which by the way gets warm but not hot in the vicinity of the rope light.
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