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Logan would have a stroke if he saw it!

Just saw it, didn't have a stroke. Granted he did a LOT of work in 30 days, but he started with a framed, cleaned out space, didn't do a bathroom and didn't do any treatments.

There was ANOTHER thread about a 30 day build that the guy had to clear out all of Dad's stuff first. Quite a few comments on there about his Dad being a hoarder. I'll have to see if I can dig that one up. THAT one ALMOST gave me a stroke.

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Just saw it, didn't have a stroke. Granted he did a LOT of work in 30 days, but he started with a framed, cleaned out space, didn't do a bathroom and didn't do any treatments.

There was ANOTHER thread about a 30 day build that the guy had to clear out all of Dad's stuff first. Quite a few comments on there about his Dad being a hoarder. I'll have to see if I can dig that one up. THAT one ALMOST gave me a stroke.

Starting with a framed cleaned out space, no bathroom and no treatments, yeah I can see that being done pretty damn quick. Drywall and insulation would be fast. Electrical would take the most time for that much space. But at least no pipes to weld!

As for cleaning up after a hoarder.... no thank you. We had neighbors who were hoarders when I was growing up. Their whole house was full of stuff from top to bottom. Eventually when their kids left after college I heard they purchased a new house and just left the whole house there full of stuff as a "Storage Unit". I think my solution for that would involve an "Accidental" fire.
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Damelon and I did a bunch of odds and ends today on the space working through a list a small items until the carpet and projector arrive next week.

One big noticeable item was putting the fabric in the screen.

On SMX screens the fabric is attached by inserting splines into groves in the back of the aluminum frame. First you put in 12 little lengths of spline and then you come back and replace them with full length splines.

They send a little pizza wheel to force the fabric into the grooves



then you put in these temporary splines



In Twelve strategic locations



Then you go back and put in the full channel length splines

When finished the screen goes back on the false wall framing.

Shot with the 16:9 masking panels in place.



Then the full scope screen.



Later this week we should have FINAL FINISHED photos with carpet and chairs.
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Looks great guys. Are the SMX panels hinged, or friction fit, or magnets, or ?
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Absolutely Stunning!!!

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Brad, the SMX screen hangs on Zbar clips, the four panels surrounding the screen are friction fit.
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What are you using for masking?

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What are you using for masking?

They look like the Pro panels from SMX for the masking http://www.smxscreen.com/pro-panels-masking.html
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Awesome job! Looks great. What day this week for carpet?!

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Correct, Pro panels.

The project is totally amazing. I did DIY masking panels that are similar. Somewhat of a PITA but worth it.

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They look like the Pro panels from SMX for the masking http://www.smxscreen.com/pro-panels-masking.html

What kind of cost is there for these pro panels vs DIY? what material are they made from?

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^ It states on the link $299/pair

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My price in my breakdown included them. Ruben offered to throw them in when he gave me the price. So it was a win-win. They don't look complicated to make at all. Just some velvet and a basic frame.

As for the rest. Carpet comes Tuesday. Projector should arrive tomorrow. The last couple of rack shelves should come Tuesday. I have the mount already. Chairs are already here. So it's just a matter of when it arrives at the store on Tuesday so i can have my guy install it. It will likely be Tues or Wed for carpet installation. I'm going to push for Tuesday though

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Are the panels AT material, you said velvet so just curious?

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Are the panels AT material, you said velvet so just curious?

I'm sure they are. It's the same material that is on their frame, whatever that is. There would be no point in an AT screen company selling non-AT panels
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Yes, the SMX link a few posts back mentions that they are.
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SMX screens the fabric is attached by inserting splines into groves in the back of the aluminum frame. First you put in 12 little lengths of spline and then you come back and replace them with full length splines.

Sweet!
Did you guys end up with a 130 diagonal -- in scope size?
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... letting the feeling of giddiness wash over me when I read "out for delivery" on my projector tracking number...


As for the screen.
2.35:1 scope screen. It is 130" wide X 55.3" high X 141.3" diagonal.
This would be equivalent to showing a letterbox movie on a 149" 16:9 screen or so.

16:9 material will be about 112" diag or so.

I know a lot of people question CIH methods and wonder why to even bother with a scope screen. For one, a lot of walls (especially mine with the soffit) are limited by height. Another is masking. Masking a scope screen is easy because gravity is on your side. You can do it with some simple curtains for a real cinema look or with panels that fit directly into the screen. In a CIW setup, masking the top and bottom are much more difficult. If your projector has lens memory, you can make letterboxed content move up to the top or the bottom of the screen, thus requiring you to only mask once. But it can still be a challenge.

A lot of people are so used to seeing letterbox on their TVs that they just ask "Why mask at all?". On a projector, it makes a big difference. The light and colors that your eyes see from the screen takes in the colors around it. The blacker the colors around the image, the better contrast your eyes see in the image itself. If you have bright colors, or visible colors external to the screen (Say bright yellow walls, or green, blue, etc) and those colors can be seen while the movie is playing, then your eyes will take in those colors as well and change how your brain processes the colors in the image. If you show a letterboxed movie on a 16:9 screen, the top and bottom bars need to be "projected" onto your screen, so you are projecting a frame around your picture that will not have the blacks anywhere near typical black velvet panels.

Manual masking though takes work, a many people who own panels to mask just stop using them because they have to put them in place. But electronic masking systems are much more expensive. Electric masking systems can cost about 10k or more depending on where you get them. Most people can't afford that, nor would spend the money, but it's worth it to some people. Motorized curtains would be much cheaper. When spending a lot on your screen and projector, wouldn't you want the best picture it can produce? I do, that's why I got the panels with it.
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Projector arrived!

Off Topic: So I was thinking of increasing my data storage. I'm at about 16TB (2x 8TB raids) Half of which are on these Segate disks that just keep going bad. And I am tired of rebuilding arrays. So I was going to build an unRaid server with a bunch of new 2-3tb drives... but today I was checking on prices.. WOW, they have skyrocketed! Prices of hard drives have gone up 180% since the recent flooding in Thailand. I'm also reading that it may take up to a year for prices to come back to normal... so much for that idea!
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Projector arrived!

Off Topic: So I was thinking of increasing my data storage. I'm at about 16TB (2x 8TB raids) Half of which are on these Segate disks that just keep going bad. And I am tired of rebuilding arrays. So I was going to build an unRaid server with a bunch of new 2-3tb drives... but today I was checking on prices.. WOW, they have skyrocketed! Prices of hard drives have gone up 180% since the recent flooding in Thailand. I'm also reading that it may take up to a year for prices to come back to normal... so much for that idea!

Yea they probably wont be back to preflood prices for probably a year. I got lucky and stocked up on 3tb drives from newegg right after flooding at $109 each. Crazy how much they have gone up.

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A lot of people have never seen a 2.35:1 movie in it's native ration in a home setting. Many can't wrap their mind around how immersive the movie becomes. I really waffled on 16:9 or 2.35:1 and I'm really glad that I went with the 2.35!

I have the same screen - 130" wide (or 141" diagonal) SMX with ProPanels You should be very happy with it.

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My price in my breakdown included them. Ruben offered to throw them in when he gave me the price. So it was a win-win. They don't look complicated to make at akk. Just some velvet and a basic frame.

As for the rest. Carpet comes Tuesday. Projector should arrive tomorrow. The last couple of rack shelves should come Tuesday. I have the mount already. Chairs are already here. So it's just a matter of when it arrives at the store on Tuesday so i can have my guy install it. It will likely be Tues or Wed for carpet installation. I'm going to push for Tuesday though


Where's the carpet photos???

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Carpet, carpet, carpet!

Dude, are you made of leprechauns? Cause that was awesome!

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Yo man, where the carpet be at?
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Carpet? Carpet! Carpet!?! I want the projector man COME ON! Were are your priorities?

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...As for the screen.
2.35:1 scope screen. It is 130" wide X 55.3" high X 141.3" diagonal.
This would be equivalent to showing a letterbox movie on a 149" 16:9 screen or so.

Screen looks great.
What is the distance above and below screen? From top of screen end to soffit and bottom of screen end to floor?
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OK what's the first movie? Got to be 2.40.

Star Trek?
The Fifth Element?
Blazing Saddles?
The Wall? (strike that, not on BD yet)

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