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post #61 of 3019 Old 08-07-2011, 10:50 AM
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How about a system for the sunroom and theater two zone system that allows you to control either thermostat from the other.

From SmartHhome "Designed to work with the Aprilaire® Programmable Thermostat (#3020A), the Aprilaire® 4-Zone Comfort Control System goes well beyond controlling heating and cooling and into the role of orchestrating the entire HVAC system to increase your comfort and convenience while saving you energy and money. The 4-Zone Comfort Control System works as the nerve center that provides a central wiring hub and information interchange for the system along with the Programmable Thermostat to work with single or multi-stage forced air heating/cooling equipment and control two, three, or four zones. To operate the system, just set each zone's thermostat to your desired comfort. Information is then shared among thermostats through the 4-Zone Comfort Control System to optimize performance and convenience. This means you can turn on/off, adjust or simply view any thermostat from any other thermostat ."

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I looked at SmartHome to read about the above thermostat and came across this one http://www.smarthome.com/30403A/Vens...-Rewire/p.aspx

This seems to be a great alternative to adding cooled air to a theater in the summer. It still does not solve the winter watching sessions, but when you are in the theater you could have the thermostat with you in order to keep it comfortable. Unfortunately, you would also be cooling the remaining part of the house on the same zone. What am I missing? Is there a reason why this wouldn't work?

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Quote:Originally Posted by AZGAMD

I looked at SmartHome to read about the above thermostat and came across this one http://www.smarthome.com/30403A/Vens...-Rewire/p.aspx

This seems to be a great alternative to adding cooled air to a theater in the summer. It still does not solve the winter watching sessions, but when you are in the theater you could have the thermostat with you in order to keep it comfortable. Unfortunately, you would also be cooling the remaining part of the house on the same zone. What am I missing? Is there a reason why this wouldn't work?


That is much closer to what I was envisioning. Actually what we ended up doing was that we have 3 HVAC units in our house. The 3rd only heats/cools the sunroom. We tapped into that with the theater. Every return and supply have dampers. However we plan to leave them open and have the fan on, thus recycling the air between the two rooms, and then cooling when necessary. In the winter we dont necessarily need to heat the sunroom since it is connected to the main level, but we can close the damper and run the 3rd hvac system to just the theater for cooling.

But that product there was exactly what I was hinting at before. Be able to remotely adjust the temp.

We got a lot of work done today, but since BIG was the one with the Camera, I'm going to let him do all of the updates.

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Equipment room view of conduit for the projector



OSHA rejected photo of marking whisper clip locations, either wear protective glasses or turn your back. The Theater owner hard at work. Laser is sitting on the floor.



Putting up a clip



All the clips and channel installed!



I'm pleased to report that not a single sheet of drywall was stolen thanks to the rescued pincher. I'm staying on this side of the pile.


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Unbelievable guys! You knocked out a months work in a day. Road trip to Omaha when you get done with it! Free room and board.

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If Big wants to come up to PA to finish my room Gas money covered- I'll even come down and pick him up- just fill out the mnu selections in advance

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I grew up in Hopkins.
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I grew up in Hopkins.

Very cool, I lived in NOVA for 8 years (Arlington/Alexandria).

We could use you here in Minnesota Big, bunch of builds going on.
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Very cool, I lived in NOVA for 8 years (Arlington/Alexandria).

We could use you here in Minnesota Big, bunch of builds going on.
Where I was born in Minneapolis and now live in NOVA... small world!
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First layer of drywall should be completed today, along with caulking of the main theater room. We are going to leave the equipment room un-drywalled until we have finished running the wires into the main room.

I have BIG scheduled to come tomorrow to work with me on putting up the 2nd layer of drywall with green glue & caulking.

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What tricks did you guys use to easily screw in the first layer of drywall and not miss the channels? Did you use a 2x4 with the levels marked on it?

When you mount the second layer of drywall, do you also screw it into the hat channel or is it just screwed into the first layer of drywall?

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What tricks did you guys use to easily screw in the first layer of drywall and not miss the channels? Did you use a 2x4 with the levels marked on it?

When you mount the second layer of drywall, do you also screw it into the hat channel or is it just screwed into the first layer of drywall?
The first layer of drywall is actually easy. You can see all of the channels when you start. You put up a piece of drywall perpendicular to the channels. Once you put up a piece of drywall up to the ceiling, you can see where the channels are on the rest of the ceiling all the way to the side of that piece of drywall. It's just a straight line underneath at that point. (If you can't visually picture it, draw several parallel horizontal lines on a piece of paper in front of you and place your hand down over them hiding the left half of each line. You know where the lines are because they continue on the same path as the ones you can still see)

The 2nd layer of drywall can go either way. We used 1.25" screws for the first layer, so they dont go too far through and hit the joists and screw into the channel. You can either use longer screws (2" or so) of the same type and screw into the channel through the first layer or you can use laminated screws and screw directly into the first layer. With the green glue between them, BIG says that would be more than enough to hold them together. You just need to be sure that you don't have screws that are too long that will screw into the joists (Thus eliminating your de-coupling) or into the actual clips themselves.
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So yesterday was the Green Glue festival. I think everyone had the pleasure of squeezing the gun. We followed pretty much the double load per sheet guideline and used 3 1/3 buckets for the 22x15 theater. the remaining will be used in the equipment room.

One little glitch in the coordination of workers is that before the first layer went up we had 4 boxes of screws. 1 1/4 and 2 inch fine thread for the metal channel (Ceiling) and a 1 5/8 and 2 inch course thread for the wood studs. I sent Damelon an Email suggesting he hide the boxes of 2 inch screws from the two workers who put up the first layer this week. He missed the email.

So yesterday after getting the second layer on the ceiling up and starting with the walls there was a complaint "HEY these screws aren't long enough" So I asked were is the box of 2 inch course thread screws? They showed me a nearly empty box of 2s and a full box of 1 5/8s.

Next time I'm leaving the 2s in my truck until the Green Glue festival starts.
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Quote:Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC

So yesterday after getting the second layer on the ceiling up and starting with the walls there was a complaint "HEY these screws aren't long enough" So I asked were is the box of 2 inch course thread screws? They showed me a nearly empty box of 2s and a full box of 1 5/8s.

Next time I'm leaving the 2s in my truck until the Green Glue festival starts.


At least they only used the 2" -WOOD- screws and not the metal ones. It only caused us to lose out on the screws. On the ceiling, that could have screwed us!

I have a lot of pics from yesterday to post, but can't do it at least until tonight.

So like BIG mentioned, on Wednesday, our 3rd party workers finished putting up the first layer of drywall and acoustical caulk in the theater room.

Thursday all 4 of us (Myself, our two polish contractors, and BIG) tackled layer #2 , which was definately the Green Glue festival. That stuff definately gets everywhere! We put up a piece of plywood in place of a piece of drywall for the first layer where the projector mount or platform will go, and did our power hookup plus putty pads to seal it. (I have pics of this whole process to post).

Once the 2nd layer was well underway we let the polish guys finish the last half of the work while we worked on some parallel tasks. We wired our romex for the movie room & equipment room circuits, put in the boxes/etc (Almost all of which were in the equipment room). We put up clips/channel and ceiling insulation in the equipment room as well. By then the back end of the movie room's drywall was finished, so we cut the hole and hooked up the collar for the HVAC supply to the back corner of the room. This was later sealed with caulk. Having that air come in during work was a great bonus!

BIG and I sat down at the end of the day and had some fun with blue tape figuring out spacing and dimensions for columns, the riser, the steps, and the stage. We were going to go shopping for the materials but it was already 5:30 and we were tired.

Today the workers should be back and doing mudding and taping of the movie room. If we are lucky they will also get the drywall up in the equipment room but it isn't important for our schedule if they can hit that today or not.

Assuming all goes well, Saturday will be Riser & Stage day for BIG and I.

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Wow, I thought Loganing had gone into retirement - glad you're back in the game (and you didn't notice I haven't done jack since my projector went in).
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BIG handled that task while I was putting up and cutting insulation for the walls. (If I ever do this again I'm just going to use blown-in cellulose insulation or have someone put it in. That fiberglass gets everywhere!)

Hehe - i remembered when I would do fiberglass and BIG would be working on something else

just got back from long trip and the thing i missed most while away was the awesome theater BIG helped me with

Amazing progress here and I'm sure it will be amazing -

D - you truly have an incredible resource helping out. can't wait to see how it turns out!
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Hehe - i remembered when I would do fiberglass and BIG would be working on something else

just got back from long trip and the thing i missed most while away was the awesome theater BIG helped me with

Amazing progress here and I'm sure it will be amazing -

D - you truly have an incredible resource helping out. can't wait to see how it turns out!

Thanks Jesto! I can't wait to see how it turns out either! And FYI, BIG has mentioned things he did on your build each day he has worked with me so far. I think the biggest topic of conversation is your drywall between your ceiling joists. I remember seeing that in your thread and praying I never had to do that. (My main level is all hardwood above so it DID cross my mind, I just decided against the work and time to do it)

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I am pretty sold on a 2.35:1 screen at 130" wide. And likely I will get the new Panasonic PT-7000U next month. (ProjectorCentral is supposedly writing a review on one they have on-hand right now and should have it up next week) I just want the CIH to be as painless as possible. It may be using a lens or the zooming method that is offered on the Pannys... not sure yet. But whatever I do, I want my solution be able to at least "support" 3D in both aspect ratios.
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The DD/GG under the joists was definitely a pain - i do think it paid off though, but i totally get not wanting to do it.

Makes sense on the CIH - i'm loving the setup now with the 4000 and the autozoom actually works pretty well as long as what you're watching doesn't have too many iMax scenes (like Dark Knight or Tron) - the picture quality is also pretty darn good and I have no regrets on the projector.

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Edit - just noticed Big is using a picture from someone elses theater.



are you guys going to be priming and painting the drywall or going with fabric on the walls?

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Edit - just noticed Big is using a picture from someone elses theater.



are you guys going to be priming and painting the drywall or going with fabric on the walls?

Fabric. Except for the center of the ceiling which will be painted and primed.

I know the picture posted was not our theater, but I can still explain it to you. That is Sandman/Ruben/SMX's theater. He used duct-board instead of metal or flex-tube ducting. Duct board comes in sheets, so when cut, two pieces can form a square tube. The holes cut into them are for the linear grilles he planned to use. The one on the side was a supply and the one in the rear was a return. After the soffits went up in his theater, those ducts were hidden in the soffit (Like we will be doing) and they constructed MDF casing to fit around each of the ducts, which was sort of part of the inside soffit frame.
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are you guys going to be priming and painting the drywall or going with fabric on the walls?

Although the walls are going to be covered with fabric I lean toward slapping up a coat of drywall primer to "seal" all the drywall and compound from the effects of humidity and aging. But it is Damelon's call.
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I guess the OP didn't read the "gastronomical treatments master thread"
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Nice looking work! And that's all I've got to add.

As a side note, I'm hoping to buy a house somewhere in PWC in the next 9 months (or when ever I can finally transfer offices)
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I guess the OP didn't read the "gastronomical treatments master thread"

Hmm, well my theatre IS red, all I'd need are some wavy white streaks.

Hmm, it might be fun to make theatre 2.0 bacon themed. Why not?
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Hmm, well my theatre IS red, all I'd need are some wavy white streaks.

Hmm, it might be fun to make theatre 2.0 bacon themed. Why not?

I bet someone HAS or WILL. Wavy red and white to look like bacon? With posters of bacon? An animated frying bacon screensaver... endless possibilities!
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