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So the next upgrade is upon us... and it will be, a painted star ceiling! This will happen within the next week, weather permitting. (Jeff is driving after all)

Now, currently I have a flat black painted ceiling. This will be my last opportunity to change that prior to the work. Even then, we're not talking about a big change. Should I just change it to an eggshell black or maybe a dark blue? The red rope lights will be going away, or at least be unplugged temporarily. To be honest, I never used them other than for photos. I could always change the outlets up there to be insteon or something and split the two, but I think it is more likely I will just unplug them and leave them there. As anyone with a flat black ceiling can attest to, they get dirty and they get marked by almost any touch. But you can't really tell unless there is light shown directly on them. (See my projector pipe change photos when I changed out my screen) So I'm thinking either to stay black or go a dark blue, and switch to eggshell paint for ease of cleaning, and only one coat at that.

I'm working on getting a UV light order in today.
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Yesssss!!!!!!

Flat black sucks...eggshell black might be the best option. I once did an entire room flat black....never again!
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Flat black sucks...eggshell black might be the best option. I once did an entire room flat black....never again!
The eggshell black is of course the easiest "no brainer" option.
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Yup--you might be able to increase the "pop" of the star ceiling by surrounding the starry area with black velvet. you wouldn't have to paint, and it it would create a very deep black around the painted star ceiling area.

Alternately, you could actually create an astronomical "black hole" within the star ceiling, using a circle of black velved (fidelio or equivalent) as the center of the black hole, with clay (or some other maleable compound) sloping from the edge of the fabric (if high enough) to the ceiling......then, have jeff paint a spiral pattern surrounding it? These are some ideas I've been considering for my theater--just wanted to share, since you already have a ceiling to work with! lol.
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Flat enamel is wipe friendly, Home Depot. Sorry I'm not in town I would like to meet Jeff.
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Yup--you might be able to increase the "pop" of the star ceiling by surrounding the starry area with black velvet. you wouldn't have to paint, and it it would create a very deep black around the painted star ceiling area.

Alternately, you could actually create an astronomical "black hole" within the star ceiling, using a circle of black velved (fidelio or equivalent) as the center of the black hole, with clay (or some other maleable compound) sloping from the edge of the fabric (if high enough) to the ceiling......then, have jeff paint a spiral pattern surrounding it? These are some ideas I've been considering for my theater--just wanted to share, since you already have a ceiling to work with! lol.
Hah! I'm not going to do do anything that complicated, just trying to make sure my paint foundation is right before he comes. I'll be tackling that tonight or tomorrow. Even though Jeff should be coming to do the work within the next week, I haven't yet ordered my own black lights so there may be some time before I can get some good pictures up.
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Flat enamel is wipe friendly, Home Depot. Sorry I'm not in town I would like to meet Jeff.
Thanks for the idea. Went with a Sherman Williams flat enamel, which will allow some wipedown but nothing overly glossy. Should make post-mural cleanup easy and I will get a coat done tonight. I'm sorry you couldn't stop by too! Then again Jeff is pretty reclusive while he does his work I hear.

Date is tentatively Friday

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Thanks for the idea. Went with a Sherman Williams flat enamel, which will allow some wipedown but nothing overly glossy. Should make post-mural cleanup easy and I will get a coat done tonight. I'm sorry you couldn't stop by too! Then again Jeff is pretty reclusive while he does his work I hear.

Date is tentatively Friday
The painting got done yesterday morning, thanks to a snow day in the area. I also took some time to look at the soffit, and adding another outlet. Wow, I should have done a partial hinged swing down on those soffit ends now that I think about it. Adding another outlet box up there is going to be hard right against the ceiling, I can barely see the existing one! The reason being that the black lights can only be linked so far. I could technically use outlet splitters and long extension cords, but I would rather not do that permanently. So today I plan to take down the rope lighting and try to add the new outlet box at the opposite soffit corner. The new box won't be hard, but adding to the old box will be tricky!

Spoke to Jeff and even with the snow he plans to come today to paint the stars, so I'm expecting him in the afternoon sometime.
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I have faith that you will get the outlet wired. Where there is a will, there is a way.
Looking forward to seeing the new ceiling.

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Looking forward to seeing the new ceiling.
Thanks! Just got the rope light down... those nail-in clips are not fun to pull out!

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Ok! I got the second outlet box wired up. Everything was relatively painless except connecting the wire to the first outlet box. Not being able to look at what you are doing when it comes to wiring is not easy. But the iphone helped me with the light and camera along the way. I even got the outlet screwed back into the box, which also was no picnic! At least all of that is out of the way so I won't have to scuff up the ceiling later post star-mural!

Got the cover off, now trying to get those pesky screws out. (Top one was ok, bottom one... not so much) It is funny, with the iphone inside of the soffit, it looks like there is so much room there... but there is not. The space inside and the gap along the ceiling is big enough for a hand and that's about it!


Finally got the screws off, and tried to pull out the recepticle as far as it would go. The photo is confusing because of the yellow wire going to the soffit lights in the background.


It's obvious that the soffit space needs vacuuming, but I'll need a long thin tube to reach up there. Even my hand held dyson wouldn't be able to reach in there.

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Jeff is here! Let the painting begin!
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Unfortunately, the pics will have to wait until I receive my black lighting next week. Due to darkness it will also have to be a tripod setup so that will take a little bit of prep time.
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