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After spending hours and hours reading about acoustically transparent fabrics, I've decided the TK Living fabrics look the most attractive but I haven't seen any posts from anyone that's actually used them. Seems like everyone uses GoM FR701.

I especially like the "Garbo" line:
http://tk-living.com/fabrics/index.html

Can anyone give me some feedback on this fabric?

Thanks!
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No experience using it before, but I have seen it, and it looks very nice - the fact though that it is linked to Theo Kalomirakis (hence TK in the name) suggests that I can't afford it.
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Before you get too committed have you found someone to sell it to you at a price you can accept?
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Yes looks very expensive to me. We once dealt with a designer for furnishings in a home we remodeled. He started showing fabrics that were $1600 a yard. We asked about something more in our budget and he started showing us fabric that was $400-800 a yard. It was quite the education for me as I had no idea fabric could be that expensive.
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I emailed them for pricing a couple of months ago, got no response, followed up once and again no response. I interpreted that as "if you are asking for price, you aren't worth my time".

But it does look sweet!

Please let me know if you have better luck.
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The fabric might not even be sold by itself, you have to go through someone on their network (including TK) for the full monty.
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My take looking at the website is there is an "exclusive" dealer network of the TK living products, selling fabric ala carte isn't a top priority.
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My take looking at the website is there is an "exclusive" dealer network of the TK living products, selling fabric ala carte isn't a top priority.

Yep.

I saw a few comments on their site similar to this one that really seemed to indicate that they were going to sell this as retail:

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TK Living is an effort, in part, to reach out to consumers who have the perception that it is prohibitively expensive to do a custom theater because of the design fees, Theo Kalomirakis says. In addition, it makes available exceptional elements to those clients who have the desire and resources to create their own theaters.

But after digging into their site a bit more, it also states that the fabrics and other products are sold through custom installers, and seems an effort to cut (interior) designers out of the chain, improving margin to the installers.
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I'm going to try to find a source and a price. I'll post it if I am successful.
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We have used their fabrics and are a dealer for them. Many of their fabrics come as Acoustically Transparent for use over acoustic treatments and "more" acoustically transparent for use over speakers.

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After Dennis' reply I contacted CinemaForte and was told that the Garbo line from TK Living is NOT transparent enough to use in front of speakers.

That was the question I really wanted answered. Many thanks to Dennis and CinemaForte for the info.

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After Dennis' reply I contacted CinemaForte and was told that the Garbo line from TK Living is NOT transparent enough to use in front of speakers.

That was the question I really wanted answered. Many thanks to Dennis and CinemaForte for the info.

Which of the TK patterns/groups ARE transparent enough to use in front of speakers?
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That I do not know as I only asked about the Garbo line. You could probably contact CinemaForte for the answer though.

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I have ordered a nice selection of TK fabric samples. They are big $, but very nice and easily pass the blow through test. TK said that their fabric in most lines ie Garbo are spec'd for speaker grill use. Although they said the speaker grill fabric is a slightly different version from the wall fabric...but they look alike.
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I found a dealer in my area and got a quote....
Garbo was $125/yd (on 60" bolts).
I need about 20 yards.
There are much better things I can do with $2500.

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All of their fabrics come in two weaves: Acoustically transparent and "more" transparent for use in front of speakers. I know the acoustician involved and have "faith" in those statements. I have asked for the test results.

I personally question Garbo for speaker use. That being said, the performance of a fabric in this kind of scenario has some dependency on the distance between the fabric and the driver.

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Now I'm a little confused. The person that emailed me from Cinema Forte stated that the Garbo line could not be used in front of speakers. She even capitalized the word "NOT".

So does that mean that even the more transparent "speaker version" of the Garbo fabric is not suitable for use in front of speakers?

Dennis, if you get the test results could you share them here?

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I have decided to do my theater in the Garbo line of fabrics. Large walls so should have an interesting look.
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My advice, and the advice of Cinema Forte still stands ... I would not use Garbo in any of its incarnations in front of a speaker. This will stand until either we test the product or lab test reports are available. I cannot provide lab test reports if they are provided under a confidentiality agreement.

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Thanks very much Dennis. That was ultimately what I wanted to know.

Thanks,
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Wondering how busy this fabric pattern would look on large walls (not just small panels) in the brown colors.
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Did my entire theater in Garbo Black and Gold. Stunning look. Well worth the cost.
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Did my entire theater in Garbo Black and Gold. Stunning look. Well worth the cost.

Can I see some pictures of your theater, please?
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Did you put any of it in front of speakers? If so, how did it affect the sound?
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I will take some photos over the weekend. Getting the photos to look as it does in real life in a dark theater is very difficult. I will do my best.

To compliment the Garbo fabric, I had artists come in and paint the ceiling in 7 layers of black (primary color) and gold leaf (secondary layer). The gold leaf and black was then flattened with 3 coats of a water based flattening agent. This for the most part removed reflections. With lights out it looks relatively black and with lights on it has accents of gold peering through the black. The theater has a very cool vintage 1920s look.
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Did you put any of it in front of speakers? If so, how did it affect the sound?

I didn't put the fabric over the speakers.
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That sounds awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing picts. smile.gif
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Any pictures with the lights on, the ones above dont say much

Does anyone have more information on the GARBO by Tk living. I think they only sell dealer direct.
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