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post #331 of 340 Unread 01-02-2016, 07:28 PM
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Great build. Great ideas.

Thanks for sharing. Got good tips/advice.

Any particular reason you went with fiberglass insulation over Spray Foam for entire room?

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Great build. Great ideas.

Thanks for sharing. Got good tips/advice.

Any particular reason you went with fiberglass insulation over Spray Foam for entire room?
At the time spray foam was not at all popular in Houston, and half of the insulation was already in place from the house construction, so it's not something I even thought about. A good friend now works for a manufacturer, and we'll probably see a lot more of it in Houston in the future. While it does make accessing the walls more difficult, it does makes ceiling / attic access simple, even in the summer!

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Rot in hell Berkline!

So here I am coming up on five years with the theater finished, and what's the first thing to fail dramatically? The @#$!#$ chairs.

I ordered a combo leather/bonded leather (leather seats, with cheaper bonded leather on the backs/sides where you don't really care) set of recliners from Berkline via my interior designer - they were delivered about a month before Berkline closed up shop for good. A long time I go I started to suspect I didn't actually get leather on the seats, especially when comparing other theater seats (since I've had enough experience sitting in mine now). But no big deal, right? Not like I can do anything about it - the company is long gone, and I don't know where the "mistake" was made (but it wasn't me at least). I suspect, though, that the factory, being that close to liquidation, used materials they had on hand to fulfill orders quickly - just a theory, but certainly in the realm of possibility...

Anyway, a few months ago, I noticed the bonded leather material on the headrest of my primary seat blistering and cracking - basically separating from the foam backing and falling apart. I thought maybe it was reacting with something (cleaning? hair products?). But then over the next month or two, four or five more chairs were showing exactly the same problem. Now I'm up to 7 of eight doing it.



While there are some other cracking, the real damage is only showing up on the headrest...

I talked to some furniture re-upholstery folks and got the answer I expected - repairs would be more than new chairs. So then I came up with an idea, and talked to a great Auto Upholstery guy (Cy-Fair Auto Upholstry and Glass, if you're in the area...), and we came up with a headrest cover, which they fabricated using velcro to attach behind the headrest cushion. They even added some tucks on the sides to make the cover follow the cushion better. Here's the first two installed:



Total - about $25/seat. The color matches really close when the lights aren't on full blast like they are here. I'm thrilled with the results, especially for the cost. Hopefully that gives me another year or two of life before I set them all on fire in the driveway...

The test drive during The Martian was successful! I'll install the rest of them in time for the Super Bowl workout!

Jeff

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I have had the same issue on our "full leather" couch and love seat. The main areas are leather and they are holding up really well the side panels on the couch are plether, naughahide, vinyl, or some other type of fake leather and are cracking like crazy. Of course when the Mrs called the store the warranty was four days (yes four days) out and they said there was absolutely nothing they could do.

I like your alternative fix for the areas it looks good, it's practical, and mostly affordable.

I will have to keep that in mind as I'm sure at some point I will have the same issues with my chairs. We have a really good trim shop here locally I could use and they would do a great job.

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So here I am coming up on five years with the theater finished, and what's the first thing to fail dramatically? The @#$!#$ chairs.

I ordered a combo leather/bonded leather (leather seats, with cheaper bonded leather on the backs/sides where you don't really care) set of recliners from Berkline via my interior designer - they were delivered about a month before Berkline closed up shop for good. A long time I go I started to suspect I didn't actually get leather on the seats, especially when comparing other theater seats (since I've had enough experience sitting in mine now). But no big deal, right? Not like I can do anything about it - the company is long gone, and I don't know where the "mistake" was made (but it wasn't me at least). I suspect, though, that the factory, being that close to liquidation, used materials they had on hand to fulfill orders quickly - just a theory, but certainly in the realm of possibility...

Anyway, a few months ago, I noticed the bonded leather material on the headrest of my primary seat blistering and cracking - basically separating from the foam backing and falling apart. I thought maybe it was reacting with something (cleaning? hair products?). But then over the next month or two, four or five more chairs were showing exactly the same problem. Now I'm up to 7 of eight doing it.



While there are some other cracking, the real damage is only showing up on the headrest...

I talked to some furniture re-upholstery folks and got the answer I expected - repairs would be more than new chairs. So then I came up with an idea, and talked to a great Auto Upholstery guy (Cy-Fair Auto Upholstry and Glass, if you're in the area...), and we came up with a headrest cover, which they fabricated using velcro to attach behind the headrest cushion. They even added some tucks on the sides to make the cover follow the cushion better. Here's the first two installed:



Total - about $25/seat. The color matches really close when the lights aren't on full blast like they are here. I'm thrilled with the results, especially for the cost. Hopefully that gives me another year or two of life before I set them all on fire in the driveway...

The test drive during The Martian was successful! I'll install the rest of them in time for the Super Bowl workout!

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Now I see what you were telling me at Cedia. That would be frustrating.
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Bonded leather makes me angry! What a devious product.
When I showed photos to ANY of the upholstery folks, they all said the same thing: "they shouldn't be allowed to sell that crap"...

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Reminds me of the Soul Glo scene from Coming To America.

Discouraging to say the least. Glad you were able to find an easy fix.
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When I showed photos to ANY of the upholstery folks, they all said the same thing: "they shouldn't be allowed to sell that crap"...
They should have to MAKE FULL DISCLOSURE to the consumer it's a bonded leather product. I can see the market for a "cheaper" product but again the consumer should know so they can make an informed choice. I have a feeling you are correct in your assessment in they may have just used whatever was available to get orders filled right before shutting the doors. At that point their mentality would be "who cares....not us".

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Here they do, but the manufacturers present it like it was a "feature".

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