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post #31 of 55 Old 04-15-2014, 05:33 PM - Thread Starter
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Kevin,

Sorry for not replying sooner, I have three lights in front of the screen and 13 around the perimeter (see below). All lighting purchased from Menards.

Front stage lights




Perimeter lighting





The front lights are installed in backer boxes and the perimeter lights are not (see below).



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Add a second level to the platform, watch your head....very little clearance.


Add knockdown texture to ceilings (recommended for night sky mural).




Painted bezels for lights and hvac grills.
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Sweet. Nice progress. I live in Fairfield. Parents live in mason off of socialville foster rd. My wife's aunt and uncle (west Chester police officer) live down the road from you.

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PS3forlife,

Thanks for commenting on the theater! The Mason/West Chester area is an awesome place to live....Fairfield has really grown over the years.

Nice transformation on your theater by the way. The xmbc is on my bucket list, when I finish this project. Nice entrance sign over the stairwell, where did you get it?
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You can order them through walmart. Customized to whatever you want

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What do you plan to do for your walls? Any fabric frames?

I think we are likely not to do the Night Sky murals, I love the look, but my wife wasn't too enthusiastic about it.

Things are looking good!
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Kevin,

The walls will have 1" & 2" fabric frames (see rear wall image below).



Sorry to hear you will not be doing the mural. It was a tough sale for my wife and I guess I wore her down smile.gif. If the mural doesn't live up to the hype, I will never live it down.


Spray painted half the ceiling today before daughter's soccer match. In the picture, you can see a few areas will have to be touched up!




Not sure I will get much done this weekend, so enjoy Good Friday.

Happy Easter (Resurrection Day)!
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The walls will have 1" & 2" fabric frames (see rear wall image below).




Do you know how you'll. be doing the frames yet? I am fairly certain I'll be doing frames of some type... I think I am leaning towards tracks, or maybe canvas artwork stretchers due to the time savings. If you are making them, I would love to come over and see the process .
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Kevin,

I am going to "borrow" the process that several builders on the forum used (GPowers, BIGmouthinDC). See the following links for the details (http://www.avsforum.com/t/487747/fabric-frames, http://www.avsforum.com/t/827899/wells-family-theater-construction-thread-another-2-35-1/60, http://www.avsforum.com/t/768967/found-easy-way-to-make-fabric-frames). I am planning to use speaker grill ball catches to attach the frames to the wall. The first link has lots of useful information If you are up to reading through it.

I am not familiar with the canvas art stretching technique but I am all about time saving! I am not building frames yet, but when I get to that point I welcome the visit.

Finished painting the ceiling this morning so I am off to work on the soffits.

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Hi Adrian,

The link to found easy way to make fabric frames is the canvas artwork stretcher method I was referring to. I love the idea of the ability to remove fabric, such as the speaker ball catches, but that seems to be labor intensive. I didn't read the Wells one yet but he refers to Velcro, which I have seen reference to before. Using Fabric mate tracks also gives that ability. I am not sure I have the time to actually make frames myself, so I lean towards the tracks or canvas frames.

I think several of Big's builds use directly applied fabric to nailer strips, which might be an in between effort way.

I am working on my entire basement and have been doing some framing today.

Have a great Easter weekend, we'll definitely need to get together sometime.

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Kevin,

I agree the Velcro approach is easier and less labor intensive compared to the ball catches. I am a little concerned how easy changing the fabric once the Velcro is attached. Depending on the design, the fabricmate track system can be very costly.

Sanded, primed and painted knock down ceiling.



Installed supports for soffit coves and started cove installation.




Cove electric comes next!

Ordered my screen from Jamestown Home Theater Screen more than a month ago. I am being told they are having delivery issues with the screen material supplier. Hope to receive it soon.

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Finished installing soffit lighting.


Cleaned up a bit in preparation for Jeff (Night Sky Murals) tomorrow!

Also got my third quote for carpeting.
Shaw Back Stage Q1791
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Finished installing soffit lighting.


Cleaned up a bit in preparation for Jeff (Night Sky Murals) tomorrow!

Also got my third quote for carpeting.
Shaw Back Stage Q1791


That is exciting that your ceiling will be done soon!

 

I like that carpet a lot, I'll need to look into that at some point in the seemingly distant future when I am ready to consider such things!

 

How much room from your rear soffit to the 2nd Riser?

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Spent the day with Jeff (Night Sky Murals) and it was a pure joy. Jeff is one of the nicest persons I have met. He did an outstanding job on the mural(s). I made it plural because my ceiling is divided into 2 areas by a soffit. The milky way Jeff painted moves diagonally from one area to the next.

The pictures Jeff took can not show the detail or 3D effect the mural has. He painted shooting stars and a crescent moon which add to the realism. My brother dropped by at the time I showed my wife and daughter and we sat and stared at the ceiling for a long while.

Jeff captured the "wow" factor I was looking for!

If you look closely, you can see leo, big and little dippers and Cygnus.

Both ceilings w/ black light

Both ceilings w/o black light

Large section w/ black lights

Large section w/o black lights

Large section w/ black lights2

Large section w/o black lights2
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Star ceiling looks great! How does the knockdown texture help with the mural? Also is blue better than black or was that just your preference?

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Jeff at Night Sky Murals could give you more detailed answers but I will take a swing at them.

First, I chose the knock down ceiling because I am a novice drywall finisher. The knock down does add a little depth and hides some of the mural details in a lit room. Secondly, BM starry night blue was used by another forum member and it looked awesome. When you add blue led perimeter lights to the soffit you add depth and the horizon complements the night sky.

Dark paint is not recommended unless you do not mind seeing the mural when room is fully lit.


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kmhvball,

Sorry I didn't answer your question in a timely manner. The distance between the 2nd riser and soffit is 71.5".

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AWilcox answered your question perfectly. The knockdown (any texture really) helps to hide the little bumps that are left from the painted stars. The paint is thick (similar to toothpaste)... so imagine a small amount of toothpaste dabbed on a smooth ceiling. It just can't be hidden. But, with texture on the ceiling... it is usually very hard to see (in the light), unless your ceiling is really dark.

Hope that helps.

BTW... Awilcox was extremely nice and made my time there very fun. I think we talked as long as I painted (sorry about that!!! smile.gif

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It has been awhile since I last posted updates...here you go!

Work began on front corner traps and front wall insulation.




Front wall has 2 layers of 1" ductliner with 6-mil plastic in the middle
First layer of insulation

6-mil plastic


Second layer of insulation


Add soffit molding support member


Front soffit gets curved profile and supports. Copied curved profile and secured to lower stage

Cut supports to length




Used jigs to support and properly space upper soffit


Upper soffit installed!




Finally received screen from Jamestown screens! I will share my experience in the next post.
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Latest updates!


Trying to post build updates and screen review but I am struggling with the new format. My images are added as attachments not embedded as before. Anyone besides me experiencing this change? Is there a setting that can be changed to address this?
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Click on each of your thumb nails and have them open in a new window. You will need each of these for the address in the address bar. Then edit your post and where ever you want to post a large picture type [IMG]XXXXXXX[/IMG]

Just replace the XXXXXX with the adress you have from the thumb nail window you have open from before. I might have the / the wrong way but you will figure it out. If you can build a theater how hard could it be to figure out how to post a picture?!?

Hope this helps it works for me

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Click on each of your thumb nails and have them open in a new window. You will need each of these for the address in the address bar. Then edit your post and where ever you want to post a large picture type [IMG]XXXXXXX[/IMG]

Just replace the XXXXXX with the adress you have from the thumb nail window you have open from before. I might have the / the wrong way but you will figure it out. If you can build a theater how are could it be to figure out how to post a picture?!?

Hope this helps it works for me


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Thanks for the tips.
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Finally received screen from Jamestown screens! I will share my experience in the next post.
What do you think of your Jamestown Screen? Which material did you decide on? I'm excited to hear about it (Good or bad).
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My soffit molding is nearly complete with the exception on the curved area above the stage. My design is similar to the first image below.
Installation of the crown required another set of hands, so I made a jig....they work pretty good! I am planning to use flexible crown on the curved section. The first quote for a 10' piece is $132+tax...ouch.


The fourth image shows the completed screen wall.


I tried to post images but have not figured it out yet. I tried the steps from claylikethedirt but all I got was a url with img on each end....no image. I must have done something wrong.
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WOW.. nice progress! Looking good.

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Jamestown screen observations

Not sure if this is the correct location for this screen review but I wanted to keep the build information together.


The intent of this message is to share my observations about my newly purchased ATscreen from Jamestown screen. I understand others have purchased from thisvendor and your opinions and experiences may differ from mine. Please remember, these observances are an attempt to share my experience and not endorse or slight the screen manufacturer.


The 130" diagonal, 2.4:1, acoustically transparent screen was ordered 11Apr14 and delivered 2Jun14. I was originally given a lead time of 14-19 days but the product took 7 weeks to be delivered. Not a big problem since my build was moving at a slow pace. The screen contents were securely packaged and no items were damaged.







Many aluminum parts were taped to the outside of the parts bundle. The tape left a sticky residue on those parts and required them to be cleaned.




The screens middle supports were painted black and loosely taped to the bundle. I have not cleaned them yet but I hope I will not have to repaint them after removing the adhesive residue.




Several of the aluminum frame members had burrs and rough edges. Fortunately I have the tools to de-bur the parts.





The screen came with instructions and a bag of parts to attach screen to the frame. The assembly instructions were clear but require more effort than I anticipated…nothing that I can't handle, just more items for the punch list.



When ordering the screen, I wish I had asked more questions about the design. The outer frame is constructed of 6 pieces (2 top pieces, 2 bottom pieces and 1 piece each side). The corners aren't mitered and there is a seam in the middle of the top and bottom horizontal members. I am hoping the seams aren't visually distracting. The cost to ship parts 10+ feet long would have been outrageous but the look would have been more authentic. The frame members were nicely covered with black velvet.

I plan to begin the assembly soon and I will report back at that time.
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