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The trim has been decided to do an offwhite/cream color in Aura Matte. I spent too much time on trim to hide the details.

 

I'm a trim fan and it looks great. Especially, after you recaptured the soffits from the darkness.

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I've got some udates coming tonight....

I really cranked out the theater last week...I actually turned on the projector last night smile.gif
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Looking fantastic Larry M., great color choices..

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I've got some udates coming tonight....

I really cranked out the theater last week...I actually turned on the projector last night smile.gif
guess you are busy watching for thoes updates hugh?
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Haha sorry guys, here is a teaser wink.gif

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Oh, YOU TEASE!!!! I can't wait to see the wider shots. Looks like you are very close!
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I agree, from what I can see it looks great

An Aspen Woods Theater - Under Construction

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I'm pretty much done, but what fun would it be to unveil everything at once smile.gif

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Added half round moulding to the stage and riser
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First experimental removable panel complete....VICTORY!!!!!
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Working a bottom panel now. I didn't make them removable on the rear columns
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More to come smile.gif
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Maybe I'm alone here, but soundproofing was a complete waste of time. There is some improvement, but nowhere near enough. Maybe I missed a step, but I was pretty meticulous sealing all openings, adding mass, staggered studs, adding extra gg, sealing boxes, etc etc etc

Over $2k and A LOT of extra time, wasn't really worth it. Maybe my expectations were too high, idk, I just don't hear that big of an improvement.
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Any thoughts on where the issue lies or the most sound is leaking out? Did you use any sort of clips for the walls and ceiling for any sort of decoupling or were you just relying on mass?

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Maybe I missed a step,



From my quick review of the thread

No decoupling of the stud walls nor isolation of the OSB (first layer) What you did is create a big solid box connected very solidly to the house framing, All the vibrational energy in the walls and ceiling is transmitted to the rest of the house. Unfortunately you have shown a very good example of doing it only Halfway.
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Any thoughts on where the issue lies or the most sound is leaking out? Did you use any sort of clips for the walls and ceiling for any sort of decoupling or were you just relying on mass?
well I don't have the door up, so that's a big leak lol smile.gif but I can tell, even after the door, my soundproofing effort is not nearly what I expected

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From my quick review of the thread

No decoupling of the stud walls nor isolation of the OSB (first layer) What you did is create a big solid box connected very solidly to the houses framing, All the vibrational energy in the walls and ceiling is transmitted to the rest of the house. Unfortunately you have shown a very good example of doing it only Halfway.

I guess. I didn't think clips and channels were that big of a step. Too late now, but I guess I'll have to see another theater with clips and channels to see how much I missed out on.

I always thought clips and channels were complimentary with green glue and mass being the workhorses.
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Ouch, you completely missed the very important decoupling step. You should have used ib3 clips to decouple the walls from the floor joists and used something like the whisper clip and channel on the ceiling.
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Ouch, you completely missed the very important decoupling step. You should have used ib3 clips to decouple the walls from the floor joists and used something like the whisper clip and channel on the ceiling.

He did say he staggered the studs... Perhaps that was the mistake. From my understanding a double wall is better than clips and channel... and also a better option over staggered studs.

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Ouch, you completely missed the very important decoupling step. You should have used ib3 clips to decouple the walls from the floor joists and used something like the whisper clip and channel on the ceiling.
yes, I should have used that on the ceiling and the ceiling plates. Didn't think it would render my efforts useless

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He did say he staggered the studs... Perhaps that was the mistake. From my understanding a double wall is better than clips and channel... and also a better option over staggered studs.

I staggered the wall that separates the 2 rooms in the basement. The rooms above are my issue unfortunately.

Just means I have to turn it down a bit at night so the wife can sleep
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A staggered studded or double wall doesn't do squat if it's rigidly connected to the floor joists above. Same as screwing or nailing osb and drywall to the floor joists above for the theaters ceiling. You're just transferring all the energy to the floor and walls on the first floor.

I'm sure the room is going to be fully enjoyed anyway, so carry on! Looks great! smile.gif
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A staggered studded or double wall doesn't do squat if it's rigidly connected to the floor joists above. Same as screwing or nailing osb and drywall to the floor joists above for the theaters ceiling. You're just transferring all the energy to the floor and walls on the first floor.

I'm sure the room is going to be fully enjoyed anyway, so carry on! Looks great! smile.gif
It sure will be enjoyed smile.gif
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well I don't have the door up, so that's a big leak lol smile.gif but I can tell, even after the door, my soundproofing effort is not nearly what I expected
I guess. I didn't think clips and channels were that big of a step. Too late now, but I guess I'll have to see another theater with clips and channels to see how much I missed out on.

I always thought clips and channels were complimentary with green glue and mass being the workhorses.


I have been in two that have have used the clips and channels with DD and Green glue the Bacon Race was the first one and i was shocked to be honest. I was surprised how loud a quit house really was.
you will see a difference when you put the door in and seal it. Either way the room looks amazing you did a great job, love your trim work ....enjoy it. smile.gif
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Room looks great!!

Went to the Jets game yesterday...and watched it again when I got back home...not sure which was more fun smile.gif

Though Fios with Fox on 137" does start to show some pixelation. I think the Bronco/Raven game last week had a bit better picture.

Hoping when the Jets are on CBS it comes out good smile.gif
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Larry,

Great job! Amazing theater! Definitely subscribed!

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Larry,

Great job! Amazing theater! Definitely subscribed!

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Thanks smile.gif

So I'm probably going to begin working on IRule this weekend. I upgraded my Fios package to 75/50 since signing a new 2 year deal was actually a little less expensive. They sent me a new router which I'll be hooking up on Saturday

My hope is that it has better coverage than the old Fios router which is terrible. This one is an N router so we'll see if 2.4 coverage is improved at all. We'll see if I need the Airport Express anymore. Ordered an ITach a few days ago and it should be here today....I suck at IP addresses and network stuff, so this should be ultra frustrating smile.gif

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Room looks great!!
I agree room looks great and I am sure you and your family will enjoy it immensely. The sound envelope is there just not decoupled. If watching as a family no issues if kids or wife in bed than turn it down a bit. Just saying great looking room!!!!!
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So my ITach came in the mail. The shipping box was kinda large so I opened it to find mostly packing material and a tiny little box...my first thought was, wow this is pretty small....Then I opened the small box to find an itty bitty little Itach! WOAH IS THAT THING TINY
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Congratulations Larry - the theater looks outstanding!
I especially like the carpet! That was one of the finalists in my theater as well. Good luck with the iRule - I spent a lot of time getting used to it, so I'll help if I can if you have any difficulty...

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Congratulations Larry - the theater looks outstanding!
I especially like the carpet! That was one of the finalists in my theater as well. Good luck with the iRule - I spent a lot of time getting used to it, so I'll help if I can if you have any difficulty...

Come visit, you can setup my IRule smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif

I'll be sure to be asking a lot of questions!
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Do you have pics of the speakers in the columns? also, how are the removable fabric frames attached to the columns. velcro?
Great looking theater. I'll be using a similar method wiht the fabric frames
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Do you have pics of the speakers in the columns? also, how are the removable fabric frames attached to the columns. velcro?
Great looking theater. I'll be using a similar method wiht the fabric frames

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That speaker was a little crooked, but I fixed after the photos. It's filled with 2" OC703 with excess carpet padding under the speaker.

The fabric frames are friction fit. Not need for Velcro, I actually made them a bit too tight, it takes a little muscle to pull them off but it is easy. The moulding has a 3/4" rabbit so it slides right in on the 3/4" MDF and sits on the little bit of exposed 2x4 framing. Here is a profile pic of the moulding. Pretty sure I used this one

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Inside look of the speaker columns


That speaker was a little crooked, but I fixed after the photos. It's filled with 2" OC703 with excess carpet padding under the speaker.

The fabric frames are friction fit. Not need for Velcro, I actually made them a bit too tight, it takes a little muscle to pull them off but it is easy. The moulding has a 3/4" rabbit so it slides right in on the 3/4" MDF and sits on the little bit of exposed 2x4 framing. Here is a profile pic of the moulding. Pretty sure I used this one

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Awsome thanks.
So these mouldings come with the 3/4 rabbit already or did you cut that out? Home depot?
Thanks again
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