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you could use a Z-clip (French cleat) and a spacer on the back of the speaker to achieve your angle, you would need to screw the spacer to the back of the speaker.
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Hey guys, quick note, I have one pair of FXiA6 up for sale. I bought two sets but I am going 5.1. For sale thread here.
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This is what I came up with mounting the center. It's a big ass speaker...

One thing I'm worried about is the speaker slipping off if the glue on the feet fails. I'm thinking about maybe putting a small bracket on the ends to attach the cabinet to the shelf. Another thing is the wire. It's picture hangar wire rated to 50 lbs and the entire speaker weighs only 30. So it should be solid but it makes me nervous. Maybe use a black chain instead? For the rear brackets most of the force is shear force and those screws are in 1.25" of drywall...

Am I being paranoid?



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Has anyone seen a screen mounted about 1.5" away from the wall so it looks to be floating? It might be a cool effect and would also let me put some wood squares behind the screen so I can move it around without redrilling into the drywall.
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Projector mounting: How far should I mount my HT2050 so I can use eco mode to save lamp life? The Projector Central calculator is telling me that if I mount at 12' that is about a 1.1x zoom and it says "recommended for rooms with ambient light", which I assumes that means I can turn on eco mode in a dark room. That also places the theater directly above the heads of the first row. It will be about 8' from the floor.

Does that sound like a reasonable mounting location?
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I updated those hanger wires to 100lb rated wires and it is solid now...but this morning I came up with the idea of using threaded rod instead. I think it will look cleaner and be rock solid.

I mounted the projector at around 11.5' and it is plenty bright even on eco mode. Yes, the projector and screen are mounted!

Just something to note...being a hobbyist photographer, I assumed the mount would be the centerline with the lens. Obviously, this is not the case when you mount a projector. So the lens is about 1-2" off center. Therefore, I had to move the screen 1-2" off center. Nobody will notice but if you are really particular about these things make sure you put the mount on the projector to see the offset before mounting it on the ceiling.

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I updated those hanger wires to 100lb rated wires and it is solid now...but this morning I came up with the idea of using threaded rod instead. I think it will look cleaner and be rock solid.

I mounted the projector at around 11.5' and it is plenty bright even on eco mode. Yes, the projector and screen are mounted!

Just something to note...being a hobbyist photographer, I assumed the mount would be the centerline with the lens. Obviously, this is not the case when you mount a projector. So the lens is about 1-2" off center. Therefore, I had to move the screen 1-2" off center. Nobody will notice but if you are really particular about these things make sure you put the mount on the projector to see the offset before mounting it on the ceiling.
Do you have pics that you can share? Thanks!
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So, did you get 110 inch or 120 inch screen?
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I'll take some pictures of the screen tomorrow. I went with 120". When I was at Finding Dory today I actually stuck out my hand and used that to gauge how big of an FOV that was. So when I am in the front row the FOV is just slightly bigger than where I was sitting at the theater (upper part of the middle) and in the back row it's slightly smaller. So I think 120" is perfect for my viewing preferences.
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Also the riser is done! Cabinets are coming this week so I'll be assembling them this weekend. Carpet will be ordered tomorrow and they are saying 1-2 weeks lead time. I think I'll have an operational theater in 2-3 weeks! There will still be some finishing touches (countertop, crown molding, any acoustical treatments) left to do.

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Looks good!

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Here is the projector mounted. Nevermind the wires, I need to buy some channel to hide them. You can see how the lens is off center by about an inch or two.




Here is the screen in the theater vs the front row in my theater. You can see the FOV is very similar.


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Cabinets assembled & installed!



Also, my brother got me a birthday gift:



The Insteon switches are kind of confusing to set up. Still trying to figure it out. This is all I have been able to figure out so far:


Waiting on carpet...looks like it will be at least two more weeks.
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Fancy switches!

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So the closet door is facing the screen and since I painted all the trim white I think it is reflecting a lot of light back onto the screen...gonna wait until the carpet is in to see how bad it is, but it is looking very likely that I will be repainting the trim a dark gray.
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Yeah a huge rule is not to paint anything white if you want your contrast ratio to be the best it can be.

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Still waiting on the carpet...they are saying at least a week longer.

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Over 4 years ago I started this thread. A little less than 3 years ago I started construction. And finally:




Should have gone one shade darker on the carpet, but honestly you can't see most of it because of the chairs anyway. It still looks pretty good.

I don't have more pictures because it isn't done yet. What's left:
  • Countertop & cabinet hardware
  • Proper routing of power into cabinet
  • Final routing of HDMI cable
  • Crown molding
  • Final configuration if Insteon (what a pain in the ass! I might get the Insteon Hub just to make it easier and so I can control the lights from my phone).
  • Removing unnecessary wires
  • Under step lighting (LED string lights hooked up to Insteon Lamp module)

Some lessons:
1. I used the wrong wire for the subwoofer, so I ran a coax under the baseboard.
2. The right speaker wire is in the wrong spot since I went with a wider screen. I ran the wire to the speaker under the baseboard and I will remove this wire as well.
3. The front speaker wires were installed too high (was planning on doing a stage, but decided not to).

So in retrospect there was no reason to run wires to the front speakers and subwoofer. I only used the wire run for the left side.

I also didn't run an ethernet or coax into the room...I am going to use a powerline ethernet to get the ethernet in from the next room over. Should work ok. I am using a Tivo Mini so I don't need coax either, but I may need coax at some point (or at the very least for the next homeowner). I have a couple of good options to run it over. Running ethernet sucks so I am going to stick with the powerline ethernet.

The noise from the vent isn't a big deal...you don't notice when watching movies.

I bought a nice cabinet instead of a server rack. I'm glad I did, it will look very nice next to the cabinets and countertop.

I got an amazing deal on some exotic granite remnant for the countertop. Pics will be coming when that is installed next week!!

I got a great deal on a used SVS sub. It's amazing, although I can hear it a little bit when standing in the room above the theater. I can't hear anything else but I don't know if my neighbors will hear the sub since I live in a townhouse (may just turn it down at night). Overall I am impressed with the sound isolation.

The LED bulbs don't get dim enough with the insteon dimmer. The hum isn't an issue now that the carpet is installed, but I have heard the Philips LEDs can get very dim so I might try those. I may end up just turning the lights off and relying on the under step lighting.

I don't think the white trim is an issue either.

Finding movies with Atmos soundtracks is tough!!! Most of the time you have to buy a special edition or the movie itself isn't very good. John Wick is going to be the first movie I use to test the Atmos.

I can barely hear the surrounds when sitting in the front row. I don't know if it is just due to what I have tried out so far, or if I screwed up the Audyssey setup. I think it's the latter.

I don't know why I put the outlets for the riser above the first step. Should have put them on the bottom next to the floor.

Overall I'm very pleased with the way it is looking. A long road, but almost at the finish!
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I can barely hear the surrounds when sitting in the front row. I don't know if it is just due to what I have tried out so far, or if I screwed up the Audyssey setup. I think it's the latter.
it may be an issue with the headrest blocking the direct path to your ears, try running your setup with the microphone in the position of your ears. Put a towel on the back of the seat to avoid reflections off the seat. Or just turn up the surrounds.
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That may be the case Big. I had the mic slightly above the headrest when I did the calibration and my ears are slightly below. Also after reading up more on how to calibrate I didn't do a good job of placing the mic so I am going to recalibrate. I was looking at the distances that Audyssey configured and some of them are astonishingly accurate. Pretty impressive.

Also Big, a Big THANK YOU for all your help throughout this process. Without your advice I don't even know if I could have done this, and I am sure it is the same way for the countless number of people you help on here. If you want to come by and check it out just let me know.
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I got some fans for my AV cabinet. I really like these AC Infinity Fans. Very quiet and super easy to set up (except for cutting into my brand new AV cabinet!).

This is the kit:



Marking and cutting holes in the new cabinet. This part is always nerve-racking.




I think the cabinets are made of really thick MDF. Very heavy and the dust got everywhere.

Finished:



Still exploring where to put the temperature probe so I can get a more stable temperature reading so the fans don't cut in and out so much.

I also caved and cut a couple holes to run my HDMI cable. They are small holes so I am waiting to hear back from @Ted White at thesoundproofingcompany if I need to cover them or not.


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Oh, also some other notes:

After doing the speaker setup and trying to tune the speaker levels, I realize that I could definitely benefit from some acoustic treatments, mainly to prevent sound from reflecting off the opposite walls (the surrounds at reflecting off the front, etc). I don't know when I will get to it though.

I found the Philips R20 LED bulbs work much better than the EcoSmart bulbs from Home Depot. They get much dimmer and they have absolutely no hum with my Insteon dimmers. Much better color as well.

I got a Insteon hub off ebay and it made setting everything up much easier, but it's still kind of complicated. Unfortunately if you want a switch on the wall to control your scenes there aren't many options at all.

Counter is getting installed tomorrow!
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Countertop! Very happy with it. Just need some cabinet hardware.




This is what it's looking like. Just needs a couple minor things to clean up the wiring.

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Some photos with my better camera for the 1st post.
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Very nice room and wow, three plus years of planning and building. It makes me wonder what the record on the forum is for longest build time.

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Tom Logan's first post to final theater pictures was 7 years 1 month.
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Glad to hear that logan finally finished!

Yeah so a timeline...

05/2012: Initial post and planning begins
07/2013: Construction begins
10/2013: Baby happens
06/2015: Theater work begins again
09/2015: Pass framing inspection
08/2016: Completion (kind of...are these projects every really complete? )

So I guess the time when I was actually working on it was about 18 months or so.

Final inspection is tomorrow. Is this going to be a really thorough inspection or do they kind of just look around and see if everything looks ok?
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Have a replay of the something from the Olympics on the screen and they will be more interested in seeing the big screen than looking at the room. I've heard that reported from many guys, the inspector is more interested in your theater equipment than inspecting.
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Tom Logan's first post to final theater pictures was 7 years 1 month.
And that was three years after the first square of Dricore went down. I was framing on my 50th birthday and had the Premiere 7 months before my 60th last year.

Not that I'm lobbying for the record, or anything.

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Final inspection took about 30 seconds. He walked in the room, looked around for a few seconds and was done. I guess the purpose of the inspection is more to verify that the room was actually finished than anything else.
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