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post #151 of 168 Old 12-12-2012, 10:38 AM
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Thanks for the ideas on the ceiling panel. I bounce it around in my head for a bit.... Thinking I may need to use some sort of fiberboard to mount the fabric to in order to keep it from sagging. A bit of spray adhesive and some sort of thin, rigid sound deading material. Kinda like a headliner in a car.

How about rigid foam insulation? Add a layer of Linacoustic, and cover with fabric for looks? Lightweight, cheap, and easy to get.


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You can just wrap some fabric around some OC703 or equivalent and then hang them with these: http://www.acoustimac.com/rotofast-acoustic-cloud-anchor/

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You can just wrap some fabric around some OC703 or equivalent and then hang them with these: http://www.acoustimac.com/rotofast-acoustic-cloud-anchor/


HEY!!!! Now your on to something..... daddy likes...

I was looking for something thin, rigid and easy to work with. I did a Google search for "1/2 Sound Deadening board". I found this stuff... BLUE RIDGE FIBERBOARD

I can see how it would be great in a build for the interior of walls. Just not sure how it would work as a sound deadening panel OUTSIDE of the wall.

I would bevel cut the edges (make it look nicer) and spray it with a headliner adhesive, then wrap the sucker with the DMD fabric and hang it from the ceiling with them "fancy-schmancy" RotoFast hangers...... What'cha think? Would it work or just be a waste?
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You can also just mount the acoustic panel/rigid fiberglass to the ceiling using drywall screws and washers and then attach the fabric to the ceiling with a fabric track arranged around it. As long as you are not going thicker than 1", the fabricmate track will work great. Will need to go to QAI or another provider if you want 2". I am in the process of doing my ceiling now (about 3/4 done). I am doing 16 foot long strips of fabric, 60" wide and am having no issues with the fabric sagging. Looks just like it does on the wall, but it is a bit harder to do since it is over your head. Would be a bit more expensive than just wrapping the fabric, but I think it would create a cleaner look.

And, for the record, after doing this to my ceiling, I cannot imagine having a theater without fabric on the ceiling. I am using black FR701 and the ceiling just disappears in the room without the projector on (no mounted yet). Reflection will also be much less than a painted ceiling. I did not do any kind of treatment on the ceiling and it was not recommended by the designer. Mine is just fabric.

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How much for that roll of linacoustic?
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You can also just mount the acoustic panel/rigid fiberglass to the ceiling using drywall screws and washers and then attach the fabric to the ceiling with a fabric track arranged around it. As long as you are not going thicker than 1", the fabricmate track will work great. Will need to go to QAI or another provider if you want 2". I am in the process of doing my ceiling now (about 3/4 done). I am doing 16 foot long strips of fabric, 60" wide and am having no issues with the fabric sagging. Looks just like it does on the wall, but it is a bit harder to do since it is over your head. Would be a bit more expensive than just wrapping the fabric, but I think it would create a cleaner look.
And, for the record, after doing this to my ceiling, I cannot imagine having a theater without fabric on the ceiling. I am using black FR701 and the ceiling just disappears in the room without the projector on (no mounted yet). Reflection will also be much less than a painted ceiling. I did not do any kind of treatment on the ceiling and it was not recommended by the designer. Mine is just fabric.
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Sorry for the delay in responding. Holidays... rolleyes.gif

Thanks for the info. I would love to see a picture of your material ceiling. Maybe I am not understanding,but is you material attached directly to your ceiling?

I was considering using a 4" x 8" sheet of pegboard and backing it with either some of the low-profile carpet or heavyweight hardwood underlayment I still have. Then wrapping it with more fabric and attach it to the ceiling. From the ceiling it would be... PAD... PEGBOARD.... FABRIC.

I read that pegboard really isn't sonically any "brighter" than drywall. In fact, it is supposed to have somewhat of a diffusing effect and LFE filtering. Figure the pad would absorb /control what sounds get through.

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I'll take a picture and get it posted. The way I have attached is I am using standard 1/2 inch fabric track from fabricmate to hang the fabric, just like you do in the acoustic panels.

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I'll take a picture and get it posted. The way I have attached is I am using standard 1/2 inch fabric track from fabricmate to hang the fabric, just like you do in the acoustic panels.
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U 'da man. I would very much like to see the pictures. Now I understand how you did it, thanks for the details. Bet it looks cool!

I have been considering redoing my door and making some smaller panels for key reflection points in the room. If your ceiling looks as cool as it sounds, may be ordering a lot of the track.
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Here is a shot of the ceiling. The flash is on because, with it off, the ceiling disappears. During a movie, there is minimal reflection...much less than "Mouse Ears" flat paint. My whole goal here was to minimize reflection and not draw any attention to the ceiling...this works great for that and it is relatively easy to do.



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Anything new?


Sadly no, with the onset of 2013 I have been running like a mad man. Only to briefly stop and occasionally enjoy the Theater as it is.Which is approx 98% there. Just a couple of items still hanging around.

1. Finish the crown. I plan on painting the crown black and hang it approx 1/2" from the ceiling with LED strip lights behind it. Figure the 1/2" would provide enough "glow" and be close enough that a gap would not be noticeable in the day.

2. The equipment closet door. Need to finish it off to offer soundproofing and sound absorption. I currently have a layer of MLV hanging on the door, and if does a decent job for just 1 layer. Need a rigid board with very good sound absorption properties. Fabricmate has a product called recore, it looks like something that would work for my needs, but it is expensive. Looking for an alternative.
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On another note.... I have 80+ feet of 1" Linacoustic material for sale..... any takers? smile.gif

What did you end up doing with the rest of the Linacoustic? Is it still for sale?

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What did you end up doing with the rest of the Linacoustic? Is it still for sale?

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The Linacoustic has been sold, and shipped "over the rainbow" LOL!
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This is like reading a good book, only to find that there is no ending!eek.gifbiggrin.gif Great job on everything so far. Any updates to report?
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This is like reading a good book, only to find that there is no ending!eek.gifbiggrin.gif Great job on everything so far. Any updates to report?

LOL... excellent point. I did kinda drop the ball on the final wrap up. Work and life kinda got me sideways.

Not MUCH to report, other than tweaking the speakers a bit and some finishing touches (trim, paint touch-up, etc), nothing MAJOR different...


Let's see....
My movie collection continues to grow. Had to add another NAS box to the offering. Apparently, I was a "good boy" and Santa got me the hook up...


After playing around with the LED strip lights, I embarked upon another endeavor with them.
I had a roof leak in another room that required a major undertaking, both on the roof and ripping out a wall. Mold remediation and replacement of carpeting. With the change out of the carpet, I decided to pull the trigger and get rid of the carpet on the staircase and replace it with pre-finished hardwood tread from http://www.stair-treads.com/. Pretty nice too. They use Aluminum Oxide as the finish instead of polyurethane, so it is not slick and has a 10x wear rating over Poly.

Ripping the carpeting


It is SUPPOSED to be as easy and rip the carpet up and install the retro treads, but EVERY step was warped so I had to replace them ALL. You can see the bottom 2 are new...


Stair and risers installed, and LED strip lights attached to a photo-eye. Ta-Da!



Finishing touches in the Equipment closet. Had some hardwood flooring left over from the upstairs hallway. Put it into the closet and finished the baseboard....



Different angles...



For the most part, the project is done. The only thing left to do is hang the crown molding (which I already have). I am debating if I want to mount it wall/ceiling flush or leave approx 1/2" off the ceiling and add another run of LED strip lights behind it for the indirect illumination off the ceiling.... Hmmmmmm...
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I use a WDTV Streaming box to do all my "Movie Viewing"


For the most part, it does EVERYTHING that I want it to. Plays darn near everything I throw at it, and WD keeps it fairly up to date with firmware updates. The most recent update supports DTS-MA passthrough!

The build is "Bang for the Buck" because that what I was going after. It has been officially changed to the Merlin Theater in honor of my 1st cat that I got when I moved out on my own in college and stayed with me for 18 years! He was my 1st, hardcore movie watching buddy.

I made a wallpaper background for the theater for him the other day (The eyes are his actual eyes. I found a cool, direct shot picture and Photoshopped everything else out besides the eyes and a faint smidgen of his face):


Actual shot of it as the background on the main menu:
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So do you just have those NAS's on your network or are they connected to a PC that's in the network? What are you using to serve up the files from them, xbmc?
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So do you just have those NAS's on your network or are they connected to a PC that's in the network? What are you using to serve up the files from them, xbmc?

NAS boxes are connected directly to the network and the WDTV Streaming box reads network attached devices. The WDTV will/can scan for ALL videos, music, picture OR specific folders can be selected to build your media library. The WD box is not as broad and deep as a xbmc PC, but is is surprisingly nimble and plays darn near everything I throw at it. The WDTV Streaming boxes are inexpensive too. I have 4 in the house in different rooms and picked 2 of the up on eBay for $59 each manufacture refurb.

Also, peeped your build....NICE. You've got a great plan rolling there!
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