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The soffit was wider than the duct so there was room for a 3 inch recessed can light.
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Thanks. You don't happen to recall how wide. I'm struggling with dimensions, want to ensure the soffits are proportional to the room.

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What board/material did you put inside the box itself? I am building boxes to place my speakers in and am trying to figure out what I should surround the speakers with, should I do something like this or just line some insulation between the speaker and the MDF?
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Looks like 1/4" Hardi-backer. It's used as a substrate for tile in wet locations. Using this to line the boxes with GG between it and the MDF adds mass and damping that you don't get with just insulation.

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BIG, or anyone else...what is used for the feet of the bar stools/chairs in a set up like this? Metal coasters, caster wheels? I've seen wheels chew up carpet (granted it was super cheap berber). I am thinking of doing my bar this way and was curious as to what has/hasn't worked for others.

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Why the 2x10 in center?


2x12s would have been a waste of money. Or did you think I should go smaller? Also if we decide to cut some holes in the top and make it a broad band bass trap we can.
How did you decide to make a 12" riser? I have a similar sized room with only 7'4" ceilings. A 12" riser will make the standing area a little tight, no? also, what is a bass trap and why would one need this? Thanks in advance
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A large 16:9 screen was planned and with obstructions it would be a little low so we did 12 inch riser. Bass traps are all about trying to tame room resonances that result in uneven bass response in the room.
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One more question...what did u put under the riser? Is that carpet padding? Any particular reason why one would need to do this?
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One more question...what did u put under the riser? Is that carpet padding? Any particular reason why one would need to do this?
I think most people put some kind of pad underneath to prevent vibrations and noises from the wood on the concrete mostly. I used something like MLV, about 1/8" thick. Its just like a rubber type pad.
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I usually use roofing felt paper when building on concrete to keep the wood out of contact with the concrete. The gold standard is Serenity mat (rubber pad) on the floor covered with a floating subfloor layer. Build the stage and riser on that.
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I think most people put some kind of pad underneath to prevent vibrations and noises from the wood on the concrete mostly. I used something like MLV, about 1/8" thick. Its just like a rubber type pad.
Not advised. Carpet padding compresses over time and would provide little-to-no absorption of vibration energy. As BIG says, Serenity Mat or similar rubber flooring underlayment is one of the few common construction materials rated for that load which will maintain its effectiveness of absorbing vibration energy.
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BIG - Any plans for a version 3 to add Atmos / DTS-X to your theater?
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Is Serenity matt much the same as rubber crumb underlay?

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Not advised. Carpet padding compresses over time and would provide little-to-no absorption of vibration energy. As BIG says, Serenity Mat or similar rubber flooring underlayment is one of the few common construction materials rated for that load which will maintain its effectiveness of absorbing vibration energy.
I was mistaken, my mat is a ruber mat made up of some recycled rubber, like serenity mat.
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BIG - Any plans for a version 3 to add Atmos / DTS-X to your theater?
As soon as I leave a pair of socks at an Atmos demo. Hasn't happened yet and I've heard 6 or so.
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I describe the effect as a definite enhancement. To me, the value is in the subtlety of recreating a 360 degree sound field vs. having noticeable ceiling effects just for the sake of having noticeable ceiling effects. I thought the comparison at the 2014 CEDIA Dolby demo we were both at was especially telling of the possibilities of the technology. In every instance either Atmos or Atmos-enabled sounded better than the same thing playing through standard 7.1, including music.

But to each his own. I was just curious if you had it on your radar.
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I describe the effect as a definite enhancement. To me, the value is in the subtlety of recreating a 360 degree sound field vs. having noticeable ceiling effects just for the sake of having noticeable ceiling effects. I thought the comparison at the 2014 CEDIA Dolby demo we were both at was especially telling of the possibilities of the technology. In every instance either Atmos or Atmos-enabled sounded better than the same thing playing through standard 7.1, including music.

But to each his own. I was just curious if you had it on your radar.
You have to watch when you do those tests. Simple things such as having the Atmos version be louder than the 7.1 version could mean the Atmos version will sound better. They could remix the Atmos version and make it sound better. It's sort of like listen to Bose 5.1 surround in the store, then getting it home and realizing it doesn't sound the same in an actual room.

Personally, I'd rather have fewer, better quality speakers than a lot of speakers of poorer quality to create the Atmos effect.

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Dude your home theater is great. I love how you designed it. I will be using a lot of your ideas. ha
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You have to watch when you do those tests. Simple things such as having the Atmos version be louder than the 7.1 version could mean the Atmos version will sound better. They could remix the Atmos version and make it sound better. It's sort of like listen to Bose 5.1 surround in the store, then getting it home and realizing it doesn't sound the same in an actual room.

Personally, I'd rather have fewer, better quality speakers than a lot of speakers of poorer quality to create the Atmos effect.
Dolby was careful about this and had presets to balance the overall volume when switching between the different processing. They were very careful to create a level playing field. I never suspected any foul play to make the Atmos sound better or more vibrant than the others.
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Hey Big did you add some extenders to the backer boxes and screw them onto the hat channel for the lights?
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I built the box so that it would be flush with the back of the drywall. Two long arms extend out from the sides of the box and rest on the top of the channel. After the drywall is up I cut the hole for a remodel style can light.
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Just curious since I've seen a few posts out recently about extending boxes...is another possible solution to screw a plastic box into a vertical 2x2-ish block and then screw the block into the stud at a point that leaves the box protruding at the appropriate length? Just thinking out loud, with a bunch of small blocks of scrap wood...
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the best solution is not to use any stud based outlets, mount them all inside the theater.

on the side of columns
surface mounted behind the screen wall
in the riser and stage

I've done that several times. just pass the wire through the drywall via a small hole and caulk the hole.
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BIG...such a great build dude. I see a lot of similarities in this build with the panels that I have seen in others. I FINALLY sold my house so I hope to begin construction on a new house in the upcoming months. I will be using this design along with a few others as my templates. Thanks for all of the updates and post.
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the best solution is not to use any stud based outlets, mount them all inside the theater.

on the side of columns
surface mounted behind the screen wall
in the riser and stage

I've done that several times. just pass the wire through the drywall via a small hole and caulk the hole.
How does local codes handle running the wiring ? Issues hiding something like ROMEX behind wainscoting or inside columns ?

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I don't put romex behind wainscoting. As for outlets in columns, surface mounted and in the riser, you leave a coil of wire looped up in each location, when the inspector comes in for the electrical rough in inspection you explain the wire will be brought through the drywall into room and that outlets will be installed in columns, riser etc after the room is drywalled. You need to act like you know what you are doing and be able to answer the inspectors questions with knowledge, providing a thorough explanation of the construction details.
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