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Trying to wrap my mind around what size of hinges I need for my setup. I'm pulling my hair out.

1. What size wide throw hinges do I need to accommodate for this? Any supplier recommendations?
I did not use wide throw so can not help here
2. How am I going to get any screws into the studs from the hinges to support the door
when I built my decoupled wall I framed my door with a 2x8s so that it extended 3" into the room to account for my acoustic treat of 3"
3. How many hinges -- given the added weight of the wainscoting and fabric?
I used 4 of the heaviest 4" hinges the building supply company carried
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Weekend update:

I hate drywall. That is all.

Seriously though, I started taping the soffits. Nearly 3/4" done I think. Hopefully will wrap that up this week.

Also giving more thought to the door hinges. Most of the door will have the 1" thick treatment so I think a 4x6" as suggested would be OK. However, the chair rail I'm planning will extend 1.5" further. So.. should I get an even larger hinge (4x8" perhaps?) or should I simply notch the chair rail a bit so when the door swings open, it won't hit the wall?

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I would bring the door into the room a bit more. ie have the jamb protrude into the room (for example, stick proud of the drywall 1") so you can clear everything. You will have to build up the molding around the door to accommodate this.

Once you get into the giant hinges it gets a lot more expensive. I would use the larger hinge to account for the treatment, not to account for the chair rail. Not that you can't do it all with a larger hinge.

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I would bring the door into the room a bit more. ie have the jamb protrude into the room (for example, stick proud of the drywall 1") so you can clear everything. You will have to build up the molding around the door to accommodate this.

Once you get into the giant hinges it gets a lot more expensive. I would use the larger hinge to account for the treatment, not to account for the chair rail. Not that you can't do it all with a larger hinge.

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Thanks Tim,

My goal is to have no trim on the inside -- basically I want the wainscotting and 1" fabric panel to continue over the door concealing it. I think I'll just go with 4x6" hinges and then notch the chair rail as necessary.

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After a few insanely busy weeks at work, I'm back at it. Not much to report from this weekend, but I did manage to build a prototype grill for the columns.

Started by attaching interior panel to accept the speaker. I designed this in such a way where this panel can be removed if I change speakers. I then ripped some clear pine boards I had into 5/8" x 3/4" strips. Glued them up and secured with a couple of brads.





Test fit speaker before continuing smile.gif





Wrapped the frame in black GOM. Finally got a chance to use the US58 upholstery stapler. That thing is awesome! Here is the end result. The frames sit perfectly flush with the face of the column. Pressure fit in, no need for fasteners. Now I just need to make about 30 more smile.gif




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nice work! i'm sure by now you are very tired of the wonderful MDF smell and how nice and light the sheets are smile.gif
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How do the in walls sound?
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Man this thing was making some progress daily it seemed like and now it's stalled. Still busy at work or do you have some updates?
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..and how's the temp working in there?? smile.gif

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BIG UPDATE: Having been swamped with work so far this year, I hadn't made as much progress as I would have liked. I decided to take the week off to get some stuff done.

I Started by painting the pine frames for the columns and then wrapped them in black GOM.



The US58 Porter Cable stapler is a champ. Worth every penny.





Et voila, 22 finished frames.



Next, I wanted to see what the scones i bought at Costco would look like so I installed one of the fabric panels in one of the front columns, added a box extender, wired and mounted and the fixture:







This is sans dimmer. I think they look great and will look even better when I get the proper bulbs in them and turn them down low:







Next, I tackled the screen wall. I couldn't find any 5/4 material, so I used 1x4" pine instead. I made the columns and the header into a semi "box-structure" which forced everything into square. Seemed to work nicely and turned out to be very strong.



Today, figured I'd start some of the wainscotting. First, I built out a stubby wall in the rear of the theater. This will help accommodate 3.5" of acoustic treatment on the top half of the wall while still maintaining a flush look. I mainly used scraps (hence the unorthodox framing). I also filled the cavities with roxul.





Next, some 5/8" MDF cut 1" shorter than the final wainscot height. This was to accommodate any unevenness in the floor/riser decking.



I was anxious to see the scale of the trim so I installed a few pieces. I was originally planning on building the panels separately and using pocket screws, but figured I'd get better results of I did it right on the wall. I don't have much faith in my finish skills and I didn't want any unsightly gaps. At least this way I can go piece by piece making sure it fits nicely.




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Wow, thats a ton of progress. Looking great! Stop complaining about your finishing skills, you're making me feel horrible!
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How do the in walls sound?

Haven't fired them up yet. Hopefully not too far off now smile.gif

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Had some time yesterday morning before heading to the city for a concert. Got a bit more of the wainscotting done.





Got the Jamestown screen installed to check fitment.







Now for the question. I'm trying to figure out what to do with the screen wall. Options:

1. Continue the wainscotting around the corner and end where it would meet the screen. Cover the top portion in fabric (likely black)

2. End the wainscot on the side wall and make a full height fabric panel for each side of the screen (my fear is this will look unfinished or too simple).

Lastly, I had contemplated doing a wainscot detail below the screen as well (instead of just a black panel) -- however I'm not sure how I would transition from the regular wainscot to a miniature version without it looking odd. Anyone have any bright ideas?

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Started playing around with the placement of the stiles. I'm not super happy with the 2 end styles which but up to the columns -- because alignment seems a little funky given that the top and base rails are mitred. I can't think of a work around though... any suggestions?




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Looks good in my book.... Once you caulk/paint and the seams disappear... I think it'll be fine
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Is there any easy way to add wainscotting to a wall that has baseboard on it?
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Just add a chair rail and a picture frame of molding in between the base board and the chair rail.
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Just add a chair rail and a picture frame of molding in between the base board and the chair rail.

You mean for a more formal look? I suppose I could do that.

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Looks good in my book.... Once you caulk/paint and the seams disappear... I think it'll be fine

Agreed!
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Looks good in my book.... Once you caulk/paint and the seams disappear... I think it'll be fine

Yep!
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You mean for a more formal look? I suppose I could do that.

I was answering wraunch, yours looks fine the way it is
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Ok, I need to make a decision re: the screen wall.

Options:

1. Do I stop the wainscotting on the side walls and simply build fabric panels for top, bottom, left and right?

2. Do I wrap wainscotting around until it meets the screen, and use fabric panels on the upper portions of the sides (and above and below the screen)? If so, should I continue with the red fabric above or switch to black on the screen wall to minimize distraction?

3. Do I wrap wainscotting around and continue some trim underneath the screen.

Can't decide!




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one vote totally black front wall, your screen is pretty close to the side walls and if you wrap the wainscoting it will be distracting.

Clyde had a little more width to play with:



All black front wall we actually wrapped the black about a foot onto the sides




Although if your wainscoting is black and you put a black panel above it you will have a black front wall.
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one vote totally black front wall, your screen is pretty close to the side walls and if you wrap the wainscoting it will be distracting.

Clyde had a little more width to play with:



All black front wall we actually wrapped the black about a foot onto the sides


Ok, I'm sold. The next question is: fabric panels sitting flush with the front edge of the screen frame or slightly behind?

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see my edit, if your wainscoting is black and you put a black panel above you have a black wall. On the panels I let the screen stick out a little.
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I think the second option makes more sense when the size of your screen is comparable to the size of the wall itself .... which is your case.
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I'm with BIG. All black screen wall and leave the screen frame slightly proud of the panels.
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I'm with BIG. All black screen wall and leave the screen frame slightly proud of the panels.

Wainscot on bottom or no?

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