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post #1 of 17 Old 09-28-2012, 07:42 PM - Thread Starter
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Just finished tonight- here's a quick pic. More later if you guys want to see more.
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A space that large and serious needs much more explaining than a single picture! Spill the beans!
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What specifically do you want to know? Room is 25X18...went with 3 rows of 4, and the projector is a JVC 30. Went with Atlantic Tech speakers, and a Dragonfly screen. Woodwork took about 3 weeks, but it turned out better than I expected. When we had an addition put on our home, we had the basement excavated to 12 feet, anticipating a theater at some point. That was 6 years ago, and a long, long wait. But it's finally done.
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What specifically do you want to know?

In this forum Pictures of great looking finished theaters are nice but this crowd is hungry for the details. If they want finished pictures they can do a Google image search for Google Home Theaters. They want to study the details, from that they get ideas that they might want to try to incorporate in their theaters.

Framing, wall construction, insulation and soundproofing methods
HVAC
Lighting
How the riser was constructed
How the stage and screen area was constructed
The wood work in this theater is unique so details of how the look was put together. A typical column construction detailed steps, A typical wall panel assembly same detail. Also what kind of wood and the finish used.
A measured floor plan would be interesting
What size screen is that and what are the viewing distances.
Layout behind the screen.

Just some of the things people want to know.
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Thanks for the suggestions...I am not much into building, so I will do my best:

The framing was your typical wood studs, over poured concrete walls. All of the walls were insulated between concrete and drywall.
The lighting is pretty basic- can lighting throughout, on dimmers, with wall sconces ($24.99 at HD), and stair lights (Kichler $44). Could have spent a ton of money here, but lucked out by finding good values.
The risers...when I did an addition on my home, I had the basement dug to 12 feet in the theatre area- the other part of the new basement will be a pub, card room, etc- this area is at 10 feet. When the risers were built, we started the last row at 10 feet, with 2 6 inch steps down to the next level, followed by 2 additional 6 inch steps to the lower level. Risers are constructed entirely of wood- studs 12 inches apart, glued and nailed.
The woodwork- a designer came up with a fantastic look by assembling different types of trim. This area was constructed entirely by hand and it took over 3 weeks. The columns were built out about 2 inches from the wall. The wood is poplar and was stained by hand. After seeing the woodwork, we decided to paint the theatre ceiling from the projector forward, matte black. I wasn't sure about this at first, but it turned out beautiful and goes really well with the black carpeting.
The screen is a Dragonfly, and the speakers are behind the screen. The original plan was to use some old NHT speakers that I had, but we decided to go with new Atlantic Technology speakers behind the screen, which allowed us an extra foot to recess the screen. The screen is 120 inches and fits nicely in the wood trim. As someone who is a novice to all this, I found it interesting that the speakers behind the screen are not an equal distance from each other- in other words, if the screen is removed, the speakers are not symmetrical. Installers said that you will not hear a difference at all, and they had to work within the studs that were in place.

Thanks for the suggestion. As I said, I'm a novice at this. Any other questions I will do my best to answer.
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The woodwork- a designer came up with a fantastic look by assembling different types of trim. This area was constructed entirely by hand and it took over 3 weeks.

Any pictures of the details or a picture of the designers design you are willing to share?
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Here's some questions for you.

In the far left of the image, I see a panel on the wall that looks like an inwall speaker - true? rear channel in 7.2 setup? I don't see any side surrounds - are they hidden or not installed in this picture? I see what looks like cables to me protruding from the base of the wood panel in the column - far right of the image.

I see two subs - what models? how about bass management? standalone unit or built-in to processor?

Did you have someone set-up and calibrate sound and image? do you know what kind of hardware and process they used?

Where's the equipment? can we see a picture?

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Here's some questions for you.
In the far left of the image, I see a panel on the wall that looks like an inwall speaker - true? rear channel in 7.2 setup? I don't see any side surrounds - are they hidden or not installed in this picture? I see what looks like cables to me protruding from the base of the wood panel in the column - far right of the image.
I see two subs - what models? how about bass management? standalone unit or built-in to processor?
Did you have someone set-up and calibrate sound and image? do you know what kind of hardware and process they used?
Where's the equipment? can we see a picture?
Fred

I will do my best to answer...
I believe the panel you are referring to is the one of the rear speakers- yes, it is 7.2.
We used 2 different subs- one is an old Velodyne that I had, that is the one on the right. The one on the left is a 350 watt, Atlantic Technoloy 642e THX Select.
Yes, sound and image were calibrated by a specialist, although I'm not sure what hardware and/or process they used. I do know that they were using iphones for some of it.
Side surrounds are actually in the ceiling.
The cables from the column...those are for the dimmer switch that will be installed for the stair lights. They will do that in the next few days.
The equipment is all in a closet along the right wall. I will get a photo.
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Nice room!

My only criticisms would be to:

1. Bring the screen wall up to the front of that recessed area (in line with the subs). That 'alcove' that the screen sits at the back of is an acoustical issue. Then you could place LCRs in that space in a symmetrical fashion so all are spaced evenly - you could even do a larger screen I bet.. This would allow for a more balanced sound and eliminate that large first reflection of the side wall in that front alcove.

You might lose the first row of seats, or like my own theater, the front row sits very close to the screen. I had a recessed screen in an alcove in my first build out (like you do) but did move it out forward (as I suggested for you) in my renovation and it made a HUGE sonic improvement - and I increased my screen size by 4 ft in width:D).

Also, too many outlet openings on the base of the screen wall spoiling the nice wood work. If you did move up the screen wall, you could hide those subs which would be another improvement.

2. Where are the side surrounds? (I'd place them on the side walls).

Great work!

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Nice room!
My only criticisms would be to:
1. Bring the screen wall up to the front of that recessed area (in line with the subs). That 'alcove' that the screen sits at the back of is an acoustical issue. Then you could place LCRs in that space in a symmetrical fashion so all are spaced evenly - you could even do a larger screen I bet.. This would allow for a more balanced sound and eliminate that large first reflection of the side wall in that front alcove.
You might lose the first row of seats, or like my own theater, the front row sits very close to the screen. I had a recessed screen in an alcove in my first build out (like you do) but did move it out forward (as I suggested for you) in my renovation and it made a HUGE sonic improvement - and I increased my screen size by 4 ft in width:D).
Also, too many outlet openings on the base of the screen wall spoiling the nice wood work. If you did move up the screen wall, you could hide those subs which would be another improvement.
2. Where are the side surrounds? (I'd place them on the side walls).
Great work!

The side surrounds are actually in the ceiling.

I understand what you are saying about moving the screen, but to me, it's more important to have the extra row. How could I have a bigger screen? 120 inches works very well. I have to say, I really wanted 16 seats at first, but it didn't work out. 12 seats, 120 inch screen, and the viewing distances all worked out beautifully.
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Looks very nice Brutus. Did you do any hands on work or was this all contracted out?
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The theater looks great Brutus, especially the woodwork. Did you incorporate any sound treatments in the room?
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Every bit of it was contracted out- I am far from handy. True story- a lightbulb recently went out and one of my kids said we need to call Ross, who is our contractor. I worked with a friend who is a designer/builder- he had some ideas and I had plenty of photos for him of features that I liked with other theaters. When we had an addition put on our home 5 years ago, we had the new basement excavated to 12 feet, and engineered with the idea of housing a theater at some point.
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The theater looks great Brutus, especially the woodwork. Did you incorporate any sound treatments in the room?

Originally we were going to go with a fabric treatment on acoustical tiles on the wall between the columns, but when the woodwork was completed, we felt that it may take away from the beauty of the wood. We did insulate all of the walls and ceiling. The people that I consulted felt that the room would be fine once we put in the carpet and seats, and they were right. It was always the plan that if we were losing anything acoustically, we could add the fabric/acoustic tiles later. Thanks for the kind words.
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True story- a lightbulb recently went out and one of my kids said we need to call Ross, who is our contractor.

Mom said not to say anything unless I couldn't say something nice... so I'm gonna leave this alone. wink.gif

Nice looking theatre. You should be proud.
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Looks awesome. Congrats
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looks beautiful I'm planning my future room, and I hope that it comes out as nice as yours has.
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