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I was going to make my room 14 foot long with a 100" screen

But it may be to short for two rows.

What do you think the min length should be?

I may be able to push it a bit.
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If you can push back the wall put your first row back of chairs at 11.5 ft and then you need 6.5 ft for a second row unless you don't use recliners for the second row. Even then best practice is not to have the back row smack against the wall for audio purposes. At those distances think about 115-120 diagonal for a 16:9 or 130 wide 2.35:1.
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What type of seats will you be using?
What type of screen?

My room is 19' deep and eyeballs in the 1st row are 9-1/2' back from a 115" wide 2.35.1 screen. I wouldn't want to be any closer. I've also sat 9-1/2' from a 105" 16:9 screen, and that is pretty much how close I can be without feeling uncomfortable. With a 100" screen, you might be able to cheat your front row to 9', but that's really close. Depending on your screen type, you may start to see the weave in the screen at that distance.

Eyeballs in the 2nd row are a little over 16' back, which doesn't leave much room behind the 2nd row. When fully reclined (sleep mode), 2nd row heads will be very close to the back wall. When normally reclined during movie watching, I have a few feet of breathing room, but I would have preferred more to get the most out of the rear surrounds.

So, to answer your question, I wouldn't make the room any smaller than 19' if you plan on having 2 rows of reclining seats. In a shorter room, you might look at reclining seats in the front and traditional theater seats or a couch in the back.
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You could make it work but you'd be sitting pretty close to the screen, I just went and did some quick measurements in my theater. My rear riser is 6' wide and even with the chairs reclined it gives you just enough room to squeeze by them if someone was sitting in it reclined. There's about 9"-10"s of room between the first row. But at only 14' deep for your room if you did have a 6' wide rear riser that would only give you about 4'6" to 5' to the screen after the first row of seats. That might be a little close for a 100" screen.

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It's going to be a painted screen wall,

so it sounds like it will not fit I can push it to 16 ' overall length but that's about it.
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My rear riser is 6' wide and even with the chairs reclined it gives you just enough room to squeeze by them if someone was sitting in it reclined. There's about 9"-10"s of room between the first row.

You must have very small seats and/or short people. Sorry but 6 1/2 is the minimum for full size theater recliners. Even then you need to lower the foot rest to let people pass.
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You must have very small seats and/or short people. Sorry but 6 1/2 is the minimum for full size theater recliners. Even then you need to lower the foot rest to let people pass.

It's not their height......it's their width:rolleyes:

They may also be vegans
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You must have very small seats and/or short people. Sorry but 6 1/2 is the minimum for full size theater recliners. Even then you need to lower the foot rest to let people pass.

I have full size powered theater recliner seats and I'm not short, and it works with 6'. 6 1/2 isn't the minimum for full size recliners. And you can get by without having to have someone lower their seat while reclined. Sure I wish I had more room, like I said I have about 9" to squeeze threw. And it works fine.

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I wish I had the room to make a wider riser the was 7' wide but I didn't, so I had to make it 6' wide. With your room size you'll have to make compromises no matter what if you wanted two rows.

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I have full size powered theater recliner seats and I'm not short, and it works with 6'. 6 1/2 isn't the minimum for full size recliners. And you can get by without having to have someone lower their seat while reclined. Sure I wish I had more room, like I said I have about 9" to squeeze threw. And it works fine.

What model seats do you have? The seats I've seen, Mostly Berkine, Lazy boy and Fusion needed 6.5
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one other thought since it looks like one row of 4 seats will be the way to go, should i make one riser 6.5' across the width of the room or just put them on the floor?

I have a 10' ceiling, so an 8" high riser may work, what do you guys think?
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If you are only planning 1 row of 4, I see no reason to put them on a riser.
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If you go with one row put the seats with their backs 2-3ft off the back wall.
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What model seats do you have? The seats I've seen, Mostly Berkine, Lazy boy and Fusion needed 6.5

I honestly can't remember what brand of seats they are, I bought them from my local Audio/Video store. I just did some measurements, they only need to be 2.5" from the back of the wall and in fully reclined position they are 63" in length. So you only get about 6" to squeeze by when they are in full recline. So I was off when I said 9"-10". It's a little tight but they do work. The backs aren't as tall as some of the Berkine's I looked at getting but they are comfortable and work great.

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Here's a very very nice example of a short room (16x11) with a 108" screen and two rows of seats:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/897055/the-arthouse-fomerly-the-grindhouse-planning-and-construction-thread


How myny seats do you want in the room? Also, how wide is the room?
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The room is 10' wide but open on one side so I can push a bit wider, don't need isles

Interesting thread using two rows, tks
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How about a row of five space saver chairs (Lane 175, Palliser Bullets, etc) in the IOIOOOIOI configuration?
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A bit to expensive for this little room,
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