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Old 07-03-2014, 01:47 PM - Thread Starter
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Taping, mudding, taping, mudding... And it's all your fault just jim

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Old 07-03-2014, 10:46 PM
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Yah-yah! I have broad shoulders. ;-)

All I'm doing is assembling wine racks. The Abaco wood is so hard that the pin nails barely go through without deflecting! Now I am grinding the chisel end flat so it cuts through. It's working! Surprised the distributor.

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Yesterdays taping:


And one layer of mudding this morning:

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Looking good my friend!

A typical joint when finished is about 16" wide with mud to get a smooth transition over the tape. This is done with a 10" trowel on both sides of the tape for the third coat, pressing firm with the trowel to leave only a very thin layer of mud (maybe 2 mm down to nothing on the outside edge and over the thin previous layer on the tape...so 2 mm in the middle of the tape joint and the feathered edge 8" out from the tape on both sides). Unless there is an obvious bump in the mud, I don't sand until after the third coat...if you are going that far...

Actually, aren't you putting your paper mache sound diffusers on the wall? So this is far enough, except for any areas that will be exposed.

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Correct. Except for the gap for the third side surround speaker there will be diffusors. Probably there will be wall below them as well. Though how much will be exposed I don't know yet.

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And one layer of mudding this morning:
You must have patience...........in all my years, I've never ever wanted to do drywalll!

All I can say is........


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OMG!!! That's ice in his Scotch glass! Sacrilege!!!

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OMG!!! That's ice in his Scotch glass! Sacrilege!!!
Must be ice tea.

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You must have patience...........in all my years, I've never ever wanted to do drywalll!

All I can say is........

Thank you.

Who said I wanted to? It's just one of those things I ended up having to do.

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Slightly wider mudded over the tape for Jim:

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Looks very good from here!

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Some areas needed more touchup, but I expect to call it quits on the walls and the ceiling in the cinema part later today. The ceiling in the machinist room is behind in the schedule, taped the longitudinal seams yesterday, have three across to tape so that won't complete until around the weekend, I guess. But it looks set for painting to start tomorrow (if paint looks alive still when I open the lid on it, that is...).
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Some areas needed more touchup, but I expect to call it quits on the walls and the ceiling in the cinema part later today. The ceiling in the machinist room is behind in the schedule, taped the longitudinal seams yesterday, have three across to tape so that won't complete until around the weekend, I guess. But it looks set for painting to start tomorrow (if paint looks alive still when I open the lid on it, that is...).
Taping doesn't have to be pretty as I assume you're hanging treatments........you can easily hide mistakes with texture by why?

When my room was drywalled I stated 5-6 times no texture. What did I get? Texture!!!!!
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Taping doesn't have to be pretty as I assume you're hanging treatments........you can easily hide mistakes with texture by why?

When my room was drywalled I stated 5-6 times no texture. What did I get? Texture!!!!!
Well, honestly I haven't measured and marked where they are going, so I'm treating it all the same.

I think texture is a benefit if you want as deep dark as possible from the paint, as it definitely go more dark where in "shade", so I'm definitely doing texture. Sorry you got one, though.

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Cinema part all black now. Two out of three walls are mudded close to definitive state. Ceiling ongoing. This part need a basic ok state so I can move things back; only then can I start fixing with the ceiling diffusion in the cinema part.

Have recieved a number of carpet samples the last few weeks, so now I have decided which one - If it's still available when I can finance it, that is.

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Where are you going to put all that stuff when the carpet comes in???

Really nice work on the taping and mudding.
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Where are you going to put all that stuff when the carpet comes in???

Really nice work on the taping and mudding.
The only stuff that's still to be there is the chairs and they fit up or down while either part gets laid. The stuff will go into the machinist side, up into the attic - or thrown away. The problem right now is that I'm doing both sides of the wall at the same time. The chairs do take up quite a lot of space, just like they will when the cinema is done, but when in their correct positions it won't look as bad.

Thanks. I read someone ordered 5-6 layers, I'm stopping at 3-4 as good enough, but I realize at 5-6 I could get it prodessional looking as well, but the extra money for those layers can be better spent.

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Here's the all black pic.


Was hard to get a picture that the camera didn't balance the black wrong... Had to have the lamp facing against the camera to get it to keep the shutter time enough short.

Hmm... I think I may have to tell my wife that if I suddenly disappear, I have most likely been eaten by a grue...

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I see you have Auralex T-fusers in room.......if I recall you manufactured yourself? If true that is a great feat of artistry as they look almost identical.

You'll have to tell be how you like them as they are on my list of purchases.
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I see you have Auralex T-fusers in room.......if I recall you manufactured yourself? If true that is a great feat of artistry as they look almost identical.

You'll have to tell be how you like them as they are on my list of purchases.
Well, they aren't Auralex then are they? measurements aren't exactly the same, they are both deformed here and there and wrinkly... And I suspect they don't do as good job in the lower range - it might pass right through. Perhaps with a coating of plastic padding and some weave they could have been made stiffer. The originals will win all beauty contests for sure.
I do feel that they killed off flutter echo in the front. I do have a big one in the rear, so I'll let you know when they're up if they did the trick or not.

Couldn't have afforded the full complement of Auralexes anyway - would have costed more than my amps! Guess it's less ridicolously priced in your parts.

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With home-Atmos around the corner, I guess I need to reconsider my designation; 19.6 including front highs and four overheads - that would be 13.6.6 would it not?

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With home-Atmos around the corner, I guess I need to reconsider my designation; 19.6 including front highs and four overheads - that would be 13.6.6 would it not?
I was initially confused with those speaker configuration pictures circulating around the forum. Those heights are not part of Atmos. Atmos has L/C/R, three pairs of side speakers (or two pairs for smaller rooms), a pair of rear speakers and a minimum of 4 ceiling speakers (although some processors are promoting 6). I don't believe subs are specified aside from having at least one. If you had 6 subs and the above configuration, you would be looking at a 11.4.6 Atmos system.

EDIT: Except for a few mega-buck processors that will do up to 34 channels of object-based audio, most of the processors will be the traditional 7.1 (or .2) plus the addition of ceiling speakers. We'll have to see what this Fall's crop of processors brings.

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Just mucking about with the numbers. Even though I do have six bass modules, they won't be rewired individually - that would break the pure stereo mode - so they will be two channels only. I will pull individual cables from the side surrounds now though, instead of daisychaining them as previously planned.

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Once again, procrastination proves to be a good thing! By the time I get off my...chair, this whole "number of channels" thing will be all worked!

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Once again, procrastination proves to be a good thing! By the time I get off my...chair, this whole "number of channels" thing will be all worked!
A wise man once said "The best decision is the one you never make."
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You guys crack me up.

The tip is to do it the Soviet way. Five year planning. Then you can procrastinate for a while, but by golly you need to finish within five. My garden portal leading up to the front door cut it close for me, it had been in it's package for four years before I got it up. Took no more than an hour, so it leads to the question why we wait. I'm sure I had an hour before then that I just vegetated away when I could have done it...

Right now I'm rebuilding the family computer with new graphics card, new hard drive and new OS, so no progress. Took two days backing up the user settings!

(Graphics card was failing, hard drive about full and XP is no longer supported - had to be done...)

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