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Kit - not Box.

But they for sure aren't very Swedish, it's more country music. But I do love they've chosen a path of their own.

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I'm a Roxette fan myself, a great Swedish band from the late 80's,90's.
Is Magnus Samuelsson of worlds strongest man fame still big over there?
I heard he got into acting, and dancing with stars?
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Seen Roxette live too (as well as ABBA).

Roxette is active still, Marie had a brain tumor, but she's fortunately recovered and back on stage. So there may be a few albums sincethe 90:s you've missed. Per did a quite good solo album in the inbetween time too.

I know of him, but I'm not keeping up with the reality soaps and such - don't watch that much TV, so I can't really say.

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Found some nice trim to finish the side edges of the carpet with (as it was 3" short of the full room width), put one in yesterday and quite happy with the result.

Have closed the wall from the cinema to the machine room where the rack has it's niche, just a few bitumen pieces left to add - and then there's the compartment above and the back side of the hatch to complete. But I expect to try and push the rack in soonish and hope it will comply.

Have had too much bass output and it dawned on me why yesterday - I had done the calibration with a stereo signal (from my iPad's measurement app), but when playing music I also add the .1 channel, thus it will be too much. As I cannot create such a signal, I've had to go about it slightly different and a little more by feel. Got to the point yesterday that I no longer felt the bass was overdominating every time there was a burst, but still there prominently when in need (like the collapsing monument in 'Olympus has fallen').

I got much smaller fluctuations in the bass modes this time, I would think that closing up that hole in the back wall improved it's function by quite a lot. I may end up thinking of a way to (partially) block the entraceway as well, but there's no real space to build a door there, to be honest.

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Got the side trim on the carpet done, so that's ticked off now.

The bitumen is up - used up all I had now. The rack has been pushed back in (damn it's heavy!) and fortunately the Sonos is still able to communicate despite some of the soundproofing I put up had an aluminum backing.

So now I can get on the stepladder and fix above as well.

Also put some cable channels up to lead some power cables around the door, the cabling itself left to be done.

Some more stuff moved out, so now it's some hifi gear, a synth and two guitars, the vacuum cleaner and the temporary lights that are 'extras' in the room. Some of it's been hidden behind the drapes.

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Here's the trim to mask that the carpet (at standard width) was 3" less than the room:

(Carlsson OA52.2 speaker can be glimpsed behind curtain, planned for front-wide)

Electronics pushed back into place:


From top to bottom:
Sonos (streaming audio)
a cheap Panasonic DMP-BDT220EG BluRay (thin, black, hardly visible)
Pioneer DV-668AV-S (primarily for CDs as it's a magnificent CD-player, but possibly also running DVDs here)
Denon 2807 (receiver, used as prepro only)
Marantz MM-9000 (4 of 5 channels used for the surrounds)
Rotel 1090 (one channel used for the center)
Ino cr80es (small box on the diagonal - subwoofer/fronts control crossover and infrasonics boost)
NAD 208 (for the subwoofers, three for each channel)
Rotel 1090 (for the fronts)

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Measurements show a few room modes that still needs taming, will be trying an Anti-Mode 2.0 DualCore and see what it can do for me.

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Primary axial modes? Or other?
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I'm not close to an expert on this, but I'd say other perhaps?

Response is nice up to 70 where there is a shallow dip, then it peaks around 100 to dip down around 120 and then it goes up again to dip yet again around 360.

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70 is often the primary vertical mode (resonance between floor and ceiling). 100+ will definitely be "other."
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Ok, then that one isn't much of a worry, it's not that deep... the ceiling is diffusing to some degree and the floor is carpeted and the two different floor heights probably distribute it somewhat as well.

But since I don't intend on doing any significant acoustical rebuilds (besides a few I've planned but not gotten around to - moving to AT screen will definitely change the ball game later on) it's definitely going to be interesting to see what the Anti-Mode can do.

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It definitely flattens things out. Biggest drawback of it - it really takes its time sweeping.

Another problem is finding out what the best setup of the controls in my filter is before running and which I should not use until antimode is done... several degrees of freedom...

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Hej Nightlord.

Got a link to your build thread from reading in the huge Atmos thread and got curious. Fast forward several hours later I have read the thread in its entirety. Since we're both computer science guys and are located in Sweden, will you pitch in and do the work I have postponed by reading your thread?

On a more serious note, what speakers are you using for your surrounds?
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Hej!

Depends on what kind of work it is!

I'm using almost entirely the speakers from Ingvar Öhman - Ino Audio. (Apart from the front high and front wide (which aren't yet connected to anything yet) which are Carlsson)

The surrounds are Ino Audio ambiens2 (a2)


(not my picture, but one of the best I can find, paint job says that this is a DIY-kit (or repainted ones))

Price about $1000 each ( if you go DIY version (no woodworking needed, cabinet is pre-made) they're cheaper and you get discount when buying 6 or more ).

( Front speakers are i32s, center is i16s, subwoofers are InfraY-6. )

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Have been trying out different combinations of adjustment levels and at the 11th combination out of the twelve I intended to do I got this result:

(Yes, the Anti-Mode is from Finland so it has Swedish language as an option.)

Guess I don't even dare to sneeze on the cables now!

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I knew I had to recalibrate the receiver once I had this nailed down, but I got a tip on a Swedish forum that the delay of this device ended up as a 1.3m extra distance when recalibrating, so I gave that a shot adding that manually and now the slight worry I had about its transparency at higher frequencies is gone. It will probably be set even more exact by a recalibration, but I don't need to do that now.

It sounds very clean in the bass range now, and as expected a bit anemic unless you go on and tilt the curve. I tried the quick fix and did a general tilt of 2dB and that gave me what I was looking for in the Quantum of Solace prelude (bottom end to the machinegun shots for instance).

I will of course try out the options to tilt the bass in my crossover instead - that functionality is at the moment switched off.

But I feel I made a big leap forwards.

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This is position b (rear left seat and with the tilt done by the crossover, not the Anti-Mode, so it was be removed by a flick of a dip switch back to flat).



This is the kind of curve I was looking for, so I'm quite happy now.

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Looks pretty awesome. How does it go between seats?
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I have just made adjustments for MLP and this seat, as they are the ones I will be using, rest of the family aren't as picky. To switch between them I only click on profile A or B on the remote to the Anti-Mode.

If I sit in seat B with the A profile, the curve will be more a plateau up to 30, then fall off slightly faster and a little less straight. Much much better than I would have guessed before I measured it, though. So I think all seats are quite ok.

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