Originally Posted by TMcG
No rotary sub, but I just had a foundation contractor out to the house to discuss jacking out the whole theater slab, digging down another 18-24" and underpinning the foundation walls.
We'll see where the bids come in before moving forward. And if you think I'm serious about this, I am not.
Dude that is serious pain. Do it.
Careful .... there is a prevailing sickness I sense .....
When I was a kid my mom wanted a bigger closet in her bedroom so my dad decided he would try to try to add on a little and accommodate her. Original budget was like $2500 (back in like 1987). But then my dad realized it made just as much sense to add on to the master bedroom and also make a master bath as part of the process. Still not too crazy yet.
Then my dad realized that his 1000 sq foot cape style home did not have a proper basement, it only had that small area at the bottom of the stairs, like half the house. In the basement there was cinderblock wall with some cubby holes on top like basement windows, and on the other side of that wall was dirt. There was dirty in our basment, the house was made in 1945 and they dug it out by hand with shovel so it was just to much to dig deep or dig it out all. If my dad wanted to add on, he would need to and wanted to make a proper basement.
So then he realized if he was going to lift the house up on metal I beams and dig out under the house, pour a proper foundation and set the house back down upon it- he might as well pour bigger and do a larger expansion. So he decided to enlarge the living room (it was like 12 foot by 14 foot) to a 30 foot by 18 foot with cathdral peak ceiling in the new section and loft overlooking it from above in the old section.
Turn out the his adding a first floor bedroom and bathroom was against code here, you need to add on to the second floor too if you do that. So I got a bigger bedroom (I think it ended up being like 20 feet long).
Might as add a back and front porch right? Why not. And a fireplace. Expand kitchen? Sure... add it to the list.
So my dad actually lifted the house off the ground and foundation while we LIVED IN IT. The house was up in the air, suspended on metal I beams. He dug out the basement, including the addition area with one of those small bobcats. There is a picture in the sage of old Vic by Moggie
that always makes me laugh because it sort of remind me of the prevailing sickness:
So to speed up a long story the adding a closet turned into a 20 year long adventure in remodeling where the rather crappy ~1000sq foot house turned into a much nicer 3800sq foot house. My dad went with a deeper basement, and dug down in the old part even. There is three additional steps down from the old part to the new part, but even with drop ceiling there is more than 8foot of height down there. Well worth it. He's now got (5) full baths and (2) half baths, including an outdoor bathroom we ran a sewer 80 feet for. Added another 2 car garage, then a second 3 car garage and still the cars don't fit in them because they are full of stuff. He's adding a 80 foot x 60 foot metal building this spring to store the whatever so the 3 car in the back can become a wood shop, and he can actually keep my moms car in the house garage.
The saddest part of it all- my dad is now 68 and he's getting tired. His MA home is on 5 acres, half of which he's developed into a manor with exquisite landscaping, in ground pool, party area, large patio, outdoor kitchen and a lawn that golf courses get jealous off. He's got this huge house that is way too much for him and my mother. They never go upstair or downstairs, the dining room gets used on Thanksgiving and Christmas. A couple of his toilets get flushed once a year. And since he now hates the cold, he spends half his time in FL. He's getting to the point where he can't maintain it anymore, let alone improve it. Half his life is spent mowing lawn, fixing stuff, keeping up with maintenance. Moral of the story is it's taken over and turned from something he "wanted" to something he dreads and is slave to it. He was slave to it to pay for it, and now he is slave to it to maintain. He doesn't even use it as much as he thought he would.
So my advice- keep moving forward. When you start looking at digging deeper in your basement, tearing stuff out- and your theater build thread is 2.5 years old and you don't even have sheet rock up ! That is what happened to my dad.. he kept "wanting" and saying "what if" and "I could do this"... added like 15 years to his project. I grew up with plastic sheeting for walls in some rooms, and stuff half done for years.
For the scope of what you are talking about- you might as well just pour a new wing on your home later on, and do a version 2.0 in that.
I don't care how much you spend, how meticulous you are in planning and execution- time is a bitch. It's going to fly by on you and you will look back a few years after completion and wish you did something different, or want to do something different next time. What you think you know you don't, and each person is different. Half wish they went bigger, other half wish they went smaller. Half wish they made it more entertainment friendly, the other half wish they did not because half the time it's just two people. Half wish they did a proper lobby area, other half wish they save the space.
The 1250th post is not the one to announce you are digging out your basement deeper!
Trust me I am a sick in the head dude, I get it. I'm a glutton for punishment too. But the only way I can see it making sense at this point is if you enjoy the journey as much as the destination. I get that. I do DIY speaker projects not because I want to save money, but because I am sick in the head and enjoy the "doing" of it. Unless you actually enjoy the "doing" of building a theater you should keep moving forward.
Everyday you text me and say you been up at 4am to catch a flight, or worked till 11pm at night I think to myself "The Stonewater Cinema is never going to be completed" I'd look at it practical if I was you. How much can you endure?
You might want to fake an illness or something, take a medical leave under the family medical leave act and just do this thing. It's your only hope!
I want to come to opening day before I die.