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Not sure what happened to the link....probably user error...

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Now that I'm starting to drywall, I had a concern about smoke detectors. My HT will be pretty soundproofed, and I'm concerned that if I'm in there watching a movie, that I or my family wouldn't hear an alarm sounding? I have a detector right outside the HT, but I doubt I'd hear it with a loud movie and the door closed. Am I being too paranoid? I could run an extra smoke in the HT.

Also, is there any trick to routing out openings in drywall with a rotozip type tool? I have a dewalt that just cuts through everything, receptacle box, stud, you name it.
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Now that I'm starting to drywall, I had a concern about smoke detectors. My HT will be pretty soundproofed, and I'm concerned that if I'm in there watching a movie, that I or my family wouldn't hear an alarm sounding? I have a detector right outside the HT, but I doubt I'd hear it with a loud movie and the door closed. Am I being too paranoid? I could run an extra smoke in the HT.

Also, is there any trick to routing out openings in drywall with a rotozip type tool? I have a dewalt that just cuts through everything, receptacle box, stud, you name it.
The smoke detector is on my list of to-dos that I seem to keep forgetting about. I'll likely end up with one behind my screen wall as that's the only place I can get the wire into the room easily that's out of site. Fortunately, these things talk to each other nowadays, so as long as you put them on the same circuit, when one goes off, the other will too. At least, that's how I understand it, anyway.

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JPA, I could hang one right inside the door, I have my insulation up, but that's not a big deal to pull a 6 ft wire. Is it safe to paint a smoke detector? I'd hate to have an ugly white one right in my line of sight, but if I could paint it black, it'd blend into the ceiling fairly well.
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I've seen others on the forums mention painting them, but if you cover the sensor it's not going to work. I'm guessing most of us are careful to disassemble them if possible, or make sure to tape up all the vents first. The other aspect to consider is if you are not really concerned with detecting smoke in the room, and just want an alarm, you could probably wire up an alarm off of the other detectors in the area.

I have seen a black smoke alarm on the inter webs, but I certainly can't find it at the moment (other than the Nest alarm, that is).

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Yeah, I just need the detector to alarm. Hopefully the HT won't be the cause...
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Now that I'm starting to drywall, I had a concern about smoke detectors. My HT will be pretty soundproofed, and I'm concerned that if I'm in there watching a movie, that I or my family wouldn't hear an alarm sounding? I have a detector right outside the HT, but I doubt I'd hear it with a loud movie and the door closed. Am I being too paranoid? I could run an extra smoke in the HT.
I did'nt put one in the first theater.. and for the reasons you listed it became a constanst source of anxiety.. partiularlly since I knew I would'nt be able to just "Kick" a hole through the drywall to get out if the exit became blocked...sometimes I would get up in the middle of a movie and open to door to see if things were "normal" in the rest of the house, I never got it out of my mind.... Thats "Paranoid".. $25 for that piece of mind is worth every penny... Already wired for one in the new theater...

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Also, is there any trick to routing out openings in drywall with a rotozip type tool? I have a dewalt that just cuts through everything, receptacle box, stud, you name it.

Slow down the speed or/then/and try a larger cutter with less flutes.

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Yeah, I just need the detector to alarm. Hopefully the HT won't be the cause...
You might try the automation sub forum and ask if there is an easy way to wire in an alarm rather than a detector. Cocoontech (IIRC) would also be a good resource for trying to find a cheap alarm that could be wired in easily. I'm glad you asked this because that may be the way I decide to go now

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You might try the automation sub forum and ask if there is an easy way to wire in an alarm rather than a detector. Cocoontech (IIRC) would also be a good resource for trying to find a cheap alarm that could be wired in easily. I'm glad you asked this because that may be the way I decide to go now
If you have a stand-alone alarm system, integration is difficult and usually involves pricey proprietary solutions from what I've seen.

But if you have a security system that can 'talk' to your automation system (like a GE Networx) or if you have one of the smart packages with your stand-alone security system, there are quite a number of ways to initiate a variety of alarm events.
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I was under the impression that the networked smokes use a 14/3 for power and use the extra conductor to signal the other smokes when they are alarming. I'm not sure what that signal is, but if it's just a contact closure of something, then you might be able to just wire in a horn on that extra conductor circuit. Of course, it may be more trouble than it's worth, and just adding another smoke would be easier.

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