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So after spending an hour or so hunting for some options this morning for 4" recessed lights I found these:

http://www.usalight.com/4-Miniature-Compact-Fluorescent-GU24-IC-Remodel-p/b4-gu24-ric.htm

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4"
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6 1/8" tall -- while not as compact as some others, still reasonable small to fit in most backer boxes
Will accommodate thick ceilings (they claim it will mount in ceilings up to 1 3/8")

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$25

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So... This housing uses GU24 CFL bulbs. Can anyone comment on how they might look and how well (or not) they dim compared to regular incandescent or halogen fixtures?

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Maybe, I just looked and there are bulbs that are rated dimmable.

http://1000bulbs.com/product/64783/FC13-GU2427DIM.html?utm_source=SmartFeedGoogleBase&utm_medium=Shopping&utm_term=FC13-GU2427DIM&utm_content=Dimmable+CFL+Spiral+Bulb+GU24+Base&utm_campaign=SmartFeedGoogleBaseShopping&gclid=CKX9t8S0s7UCFY6PPAod3yoAew

With the ballast do you think they will be quiet?
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I was also in touch with Twice Bright who make these:


More info

3 and 4" available (though only the 3" are tiltable and available with black trim)
IC and AT
Compact at only 4.5" tall
Take gu10 halogens or compatible LEDS
Said to be able to accomodate thick ceilings (the manufacturer sent me the pic below)



Waiting to hear back about pricing

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That's an ELV transformer ... best verify they can be dimmed!

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The specs say "Standard TRIAC dimmer" for the 120v models. Not even sure what that means!!?

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Just another FYI on thick ceilings (Two layers of 5/8) and remodel cans. Often I abandon the clip system provided by the Manufacturer and just shoot some drywall screws in the throat to hold the can in position. That is from the inside into the edge of the drywall. You can drill some holes in the fixture if you need to but usually there are some holes you can use.
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Question is, better to go with 4" or get some added flexibility (+ smaller hole) and go with 3" ? I'm planning on 6 of them in a 14x23 room.

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What do you want to do with the lights? When I redid my family room, the goal was to light up as much of the floor as possible. For that, I used 12 6 inch, AT, IC lights. Even that didn't light up the sides and ends of the room. If you're looking just to add a little light over a chair, then 4 or 3 inch might not make much difference. It would be beneficial to determine the beam spread at the point you need light for 4/3 inch lights and see if that meets your requirements. I spaced my lights so I got as even a lighting effect I could, but you may not want that.

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I don't require a lot of light. My plan would call for 6 cans in my theater's ceiling, 3 cans above the screen wall for screen wash, some perimeter rope lighting and some lights in the riser steps.

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