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We started building in 2008 before we had sold our existing home....You can imagine how that went (and hence the theater name).

So now, after nearly 5 years we are getting to the basement. We had a room designed to house the theater during construction so the space is defined and after much lurking on the site I am within a couple of weeks of hanging drywall.

Room dimensions are 27' Deep x 20-4" wide and it is 10' tall with a 1 foot riser (Concrete) in the back

I had an overall layout done by Warren so my next step is pulling wire to all speaker and lighting locations prior to drywall going up.

Am currently planning on a 12 foot wide cinemascope screen (although after marking it up on the wall it seems small) so we will see.

Design and finish is likely to be minimalistic since after all this time i really would like to get this complete and i tend to go overboard on my trim details (see photos of adjoining game room and bar with the coffered ceiling i choose to do myself vs. drywall....goodbye 1 year!!)

I know i'll get comments about the double door, so before you say anything...it is staying (WAF) i just hope i can get it not to rattle.

currently trying to decide on lighting control and speakers (speakers in particular since this is an area where compromise won't do).







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Wow, what a great space to work with. You say you have a design already, could you post photos, renders, plans of that? That would help us give you suggestions, ideas, and direction.

Anything in the way of sound isolation, isolation, room treatments? You mention equipment/speakers. What are you thinking along those lines?

Congrats, it will truly be worth the wait. Glad to see it is all going to come together for you.

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Here are the overhead views Warren put together. There are only two rows of seats...the OH views overlap some. Still pretty general right now.

Need to run speaker wire to all possible current/future speaker locations plus 14/2 for the lights

Thinking at least 4 circuits:
behind screenwall
wall sconces and rope light under stage overhang
Main OH lighting
OH stage lights

Next step is:
quiet clips on the cieling then 3/4 OSB then GG and 5/8 drywall.
Twp layers of 5/8 with GG between on the staggered stud sidewalls.

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Good question about the equipment RT....

Is it just me or are there more choices than ever for speakers/Subs.

Currently Considering:
Adam Audio GTC series
Golden Ear
RSL
JBL

My problem seems to be a lack of places to hear some of these brands anywhere near me.

I probably will try to go with a Receiver at this point since i'm likely to be budget challenged but I have looked at some of the Emotiva Pre/amp stuff. Anyone have any opinions? I know, I know not this group right?

Leaning toward one of the Sony PJ's but have not dug to deep into that yet. I expect to have a lot to consider between an AT screen and projector.

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Obviously a lot of it will depend on your budget. Yes there are a lot of choices, no doubt. I went against all of the recommendations and bought internet direct with my speakers and subs without listening to them first. They were both guaranteed so if I did not like them all I was out was shipping. I went with Ascend and Rythmik.

I'm partial to Onkyo and Yamaha, but Denon and Pioneer are also great for the receiver. I am an Epson fan when it comes to the projectors as I am sold on their customer service.

I'm sure you will get a bunch of opinions on just about everything.

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Congrats! Check out "JTR" speakers on this forum. Would be an excellent choice in that big room of yours, take the time and read up on them.Rythmik subs are fantastic,I use them. Both brands are great and the people behind them are as we'll. I've had many a brand of speakers, JTR's by far are the most powerful and dynamic speakers for home theater. I'm not a sales man just a very happy customer. Some times it takes many tries before one gets it right. It would take to long typing on my I pad to express the quality of JTR's, read the forum.

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Thanks for the input.

AV Rack delivered today. Got a pre-configured Middle atlantic from Custom AVRack.

What is the current concensus on lighting control? I see there is a sticky thread for Graphic eye.....

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A few more pics of the progress this week.

The rack which I will hopefully be filling soon. Ordered from custom AV rack and delivered, surprisingly, fully assembled

A picture of the Tiger foam on the subfloor above the theater. Turned out to be much messier and smellier than expected.

Progress on the cabinets for the back of the bar in the adjoining room.




Job for the weekend will be assuring I have cables and wire to all locations before the lid gets put on starting Monday morning.

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Finally...after much starting and stopping trying to find correct hat channel up in the middle of nowhere where I live, the drywall is complete.

Nice to see progress.

Ordered a 156" diagonal screen from Jamestown (what a nice guy!) which will be delivered around the second week of April.

So now to screen wall construction and sound treatment for the front wall.

Sounds like linacoustic AKA OC 705 at 1" is concensus?

Anyone know where i can find these products in MI?

As always, any feedback is welcome.

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Here are a couple pictures of the current state


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Picture of the completed screenwall. Next will be the stage.

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You should get your drywall primer on before you do anything else in the room. As it is you have to work around the screen wall frame.
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I was hoping to use a flat black primer and have the contractor do all at once.

If you think not i'll get him in hear right away. I certainly appreciate the advise as I have seen your work on the forum...very nice!

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Drywall primers (PVA) are cheap and are formulated specifically to seal raw drywall and drywall compound. A known issue with drywall and compounds is that they have different porosity and when applying regular paint and primers it will cause them to be absorbed and dry at different rates. The result is when you look at the right angle and lighting you will clearly see the taped areas look different than the drywall. When you hear about guys painting 5 coats of black on a ceiling to make it look even this is probably one of the reasons.

At under $10 gallon you should just grab a few gallons and a roller on a long pole and do the room, assuming you have some basic paint rolling skills and can do it without leaving ridges. Your painter may actually spray on the primer and may have knowledge of a flat black primer that solves the porosity problem. I've never seen one, but I also haven't looked for it, I just have them add some tint to the PVA and it is usually a medium gray which is a good start toward black.
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I probably will try to go with a Receiver at this point since i'm likely to be budget challenged but I have looked at some of the Emotiva Pre/amp stuff. Anyone have any opinions?

27x20.4, love the space baby. I had a 26.5x15.5 space in my last room and can only imagine the extra space.

Budget challenged is where I live (and since we're neighbors, let me know when everything's ready:D) Emotiva is where I landed for external amplification due to cost and favorable reviews on the company. Turned out to be a nice little buy. A 200wpc three ch amp and a 300wpc two ch amp and I've been quite happy with them for the last two years esp during 2ch listening.

I don't know if you've checked out the site lately but they've added some incredible value deals in the amp and pre/amp sections.

Good work man.

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Thanks for the note Geoff. I have been checking out the emotiva stuff. The price is certainly right. Not many independent reviews I've found.

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So in the acoustic treatment master thread (which appears to have devolved by page 316) the discussion seemed to agree that 1" material on the the entire front wall is warranted. It of course needs to be black so stupid question. When i finally find some of this will i need to paint it somehow? If so what is the best way?

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Linacoustic is black on the coated side. If you use other materials you can cover it with black fabric. Painting is not a good idea.
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A little update:

Returned from 9 days in Costa Rica ...and getting back to work.

Screen should be delivering shortly
ordered step lights
ordered LED light tape
Ordered an IR Repeater
Ordered A Pioneer SC-63 Receiver (all funds would allow for now)
and getting ready to pull the trigger on speakers Planning on 3 Adam Audion GTC-88's and 4 GTC 55's for surround
Will be getting room primed by the weekend and hopefully stage filled with sand and decked
and hoping to finalize my column design......

Still need to spec the Projector........

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Nice space to work with. The ceiling looks good. They are time consuming, aren't they. smile.gif

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Thanks Mike.

Pulled the trigger on the Adam speakers...i look forward to sharing my impressions.

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Received the Adam Audion speakers. They look like monsters.

Also have received the receiver and an Oppo BDP - 103.

Comments on the Oppo:

I ordered the Oppo on impulse after reading the review in Home Theater Magazine.

I set it up in my current media room where i have been using a PS3 to play movies.

What an amazing improvement in both sound and picture!

I would have never believed that a high end BD player could be so much better than another given that it is all a "digital" signal. If your using a PS3 i would definitely recommend an upgrade.

Not sure about the status of the Jamestown screen. Was promised a ship date around the middle of the month. I called and James promised it to ship by Friday a week ago but no word.

Lastly, I have ordered:
Anamorphic lens and horizontal slide
Sony VPL-HW50ES Projector
All from AV Science with the guidance of Mike Garret

Now I need to get back to work

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Current state:

Installing the 1" linacoustic equivalent on the back wall
I think i have figured out my column design in my head bbut have to draw it up
Finalizing a bulkhead design over the seating area that will allow for some projector mounting flexibility (throw and height as well as future cable access)
Need to fill stage with sand and cover with decking and install tape lights

Have been distracted getting my bar top completed but will have that ready for final sand/stain today.

I'll post some pics later of the progress.

I do have a couple questions maybe some of you can answer:

1) I assume I should cover the ceiling behind the screen wall with the 1" material ...but does anyone do anything with the floor? Mine is concrete.
2) What have folks done as far as speaker pedestals...I was thinking to build some from MDF and paint black
3) other thoughts on speaker arrangement? Center obviously horizontal...but what about the two mains? It seems i have seen some mounted horizontally and some vertically.

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Here are some pictures...including one of the bar that has been taking up some of my time. Got the top done. Now some polyurethane and we'll be good to go.



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Nice job on the bar! It looks amazingly familiar to mine......


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Huge space, love the ceiling too!

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Thanks for the encouragement!

Was able to get the first layer of decking cut for my stage and then it will be time to haul some sand!

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Got a note that the projector, lens and slide have shipped!

Unfortunately I'm having trouble getting my screen shipped....4+ weeks overdue and every call is "oh, should ship in a few days" Needless to say I'm getting a bit frustrated.

I was able to get all the parts for my columns cut and the carpet is ordered. hopefully 2 weeks or so to have the space looking like a theater.

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I have included a couple pictures of the current progress.

The stage is complete...the rear corner bass traps are in place and the next step will be the columns and projector bulkhead.

Should have the columns put together by the end of the day!

All equipment is now here with the exception of the screen.

The Adam audio speakers are amazing even though they are certainly underpowered by the current receiver. Highly recommended.

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Some pictures of the progress so far:






Still a way to go to be ready for carpet..but have step lights for stage, columns going in, and some paint and a framework for the soffit over the seating area.

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