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What were you measuring with REW? I have a calibrated mic if you want to use it.


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Here are some pics of the faux finish on the ceiling.  It is a leather texture with a burgundy base and black accents.. It turned out really good.  I could not get the color just right in the pics.

 

 


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DUDE!!! That is sweet! Really nice job....very rich looking. The quality of that job would put most full-time faux finishers to shame.
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I also got the HVAC supply and return vents up this weekend. That seems like a simple thing to do......but oh no nothing is ever easy in home theater world! 

 

I ordered the vents from http://grilles.hvacquick.com.  They were fast and easy to work with. No problems here. The issue was that the metal plenum for the supplies was a little wider than the hole. So the screws would not catch the box. I made some trim pieces that were a little bigger than the hole.  Then after a couple of Home Depot runs for the right screws the grills went on without a hitch.

 

For the return I needed to cover up the double 2x4's and caulked peremiter of the dead vent chimney. So I made a trim piece for this as well.

 

The good news......the system is DEAD QUIET!!!!  Thanks TED!!!

 

 

 

 

36" x 4" Supply grill mounted into trim piece.

 

 

14' x 14" Return grill mounted into trim piece.

 


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Great job. That goes perfectly with the rest of your room.
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Nice job! That looks fantastic.
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Wow! Excellent work. Bring your faux painting brushes with you next time you're up here - I have a few walls on my "list". I'll pay you in wine and popcorn... biggrin.gif

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Looks awesome man. Nice job on the vents.

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Spectacular! Now all you need is the carpet and your set, right?

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Thanks guys. I am taking the week of 3/10 off to finish the carpet and Quest panels. I want to be completely done by 3/14. I started this adventure on 3/14/13 and figured 1 year on the dot would be a good place to finish. Fingers crossed!

I watched Iron 2 & 3 this weekend. It looked and sounded great! I also watched some more clips from superleo's disks. The train crash in Super 8 was insane.

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We are down by 6 and (Bortles / Manziel / Bridgewater) is in the shotgun.  We have to get this thing past the goal line by Sunday 3/16 to finish in less than 1 year.

I am off of work for 9 days straight (that never happens)!  All advice, ideas and encouragement will be greatly appreciated.

 

So huddle up AVS'ers here is the plan for the 2 minute drill:

 

UPDATED in 2ND POST:

 

SAT - SUN:

Install knobs, pulls, handles & deadbolts

Install Zero seals on door

Do final REW Calibration Pre Quest

Add 1 1/2" firring strips

Install fabricmate track

Build speaker pedestals

 

MON:

Quest product delivery (Hopefully early!!)

Adjust other registers upstairs to maximize airflow flow to HT

Remove screen :(

Install quick port and banana plugs to extend speaker wire in front

Move screen wall forward a bit

Finish screen wall and supports

Paint frames & other areas if can be seen through fabric

 

TUE:

Install Quest panels

Install fabric

 

WED:

Install sconces

Adjust rope light & caulk gaps

Replace broken step light

Replace (1) outlet

Install new Lutron skins for keypads

Update levels in Lutron

Clean up racks

Add insulation to conduits

Add foam to rack doors

 

THURS:

Install carpet (Fingers crossed!!!)

Install track and fabric to front wall

Tighten screen material & re-hang

Touch up stain and paint in room

 

FRI:

Clean up

Deep Carpet cleaning (Hopefully the Green Glue will come out!)

Make fine adjustments to PJ and lens

Video calibration & add memories with Lumagen

Re-run Audyssey

REW Calibration post Quest

 

SAT - SUN:

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Recommend, install fabric track before Quest. You want to minimize blowing that insulation around, especially with airgun poofs. It is not the itch friendly stuff you get at Home Depot. Either turn off HVAC in room, or if that is not practical, add additional filters to intake/retrun air vent. Minimize spread or infiltration of fiberglass until you can clean and vacuum after installation. Use drywall bags in shop vac. I find that a long serrated blade kitchen knife works best to cut the Quest panels.
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Practice working with fabricmate track. A power miter saw is best to cut it and get good corners. I don't see a schedule for it in your list. Can be time consuming except for basic rectangular areas aren't bad.
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Practice working with fabricmate track. A power miter saw is best to cut it and get good corners. I don't see a schedule for it in your list. Can be time consuming except for basic rectangular areas aren't bad.

With chop saw...................SLOW OR NO GO!!!!!!!!

 

Goggles are a MUST for the inherent explosion of fabric track if you go too fast!  After your first explosion, you'll understand what I mean!

 

Use firring strips and screw track to firring...........don't use staples.............once done, as fore-mentioned, then cut and install Quest panels and fabric.

 

Don't make the same mistake I did................have fabric channels credit card distance to perimeter. I gave a gap 1/4 inch which I wish I could change.

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Use firring strips and screw track to firring

I have already made some 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" firring strips.  I am using the 1/2" track.  The total height is exactly 2".  Is the 2" Quest panels actually 2" thick or less?

 

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...........don't use staples

I have a bunch of #8 1 1/4" spax screws left over from the build.  Will these be OK?  How about spacing.....12" OC or 16" OC?

 

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Don't make the same mistake I did................have fabric channels credit card distance to perimeter. I gave a gap 1/4 inch which I wish I could change.

So are you saying your gap was too big?  I bought some metal strip that are 1/16" thick for temporary spacers.  Is that about right?


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I recommend staples. Call me if you need help.
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I recommend staples. Call me if you need help.

 

Staples will work...............but from my experience, tension with fabric did not hold.  Spacing intervals with staples at 4-6 inches spacing did not hold like I wanted.

 

Had to go back and used 3/4 Spax screws and fabric is as tight as a drum................staples are fast and easy, but IMHO don't provide the lasting strength to hold up over time..................the areas I used screws are fine, the areas I used staples had to be pulled and re-done. Of course I'm anal retentive...........

 

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So are you saying your gap was too big?  I bought some metal strip that are 1/16" thick for temporary spacers.  Is that about right?

 

1/16 inch would be fine..........or better yet, butting up would work too. I was worried about vibrations, and fitting tooling in fabric slot.............definitely unfounded.

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We are down by 6 and (Bortles / Manziel / Bridgewater) is in the shotgun.  We have to get this thing past the goal line by Sunday 3/16 to finish in less than 1 year.
I am off of work for 9 days straight (that never happens)!  All advice, ideas and encouragement will be greatly appreciated.

So huddle up AVS'ers here is the plan for the 2 minute drill:

SAT - SUN:
Install knobs, pulls, handles & deadbolts
Install Zero seals on door
Do final REW Calibration Pre Quest
Add 1 1/2" firring strips
Install fabricmate track
Build speaker pedestals

MON:
Quest product delivery (Hopefully early!!)
Adjust other registers upstairs to maximize airflow flow to HT
Remove screen frown.gif
Install quick port and banana plugs to extend speaker wire in front
Move screen wall forward a bit
Finish screen wall and supports
Paint frames & other areas if can be seen through fabric

TUE:
Install Quest panels
Install fabric

WED:
Install sconces
Adjust rope light & caulk gaps
Replace broken step light
Replace (1) outlet
Install new Lutron skins for keypads
Update levels in Lutron
Clean up racks
Add insulation to conduits
Add foam to rack doors

THURS:
Install carpet (Fingers crossed!!!)
Install track and fabric to front wall
Tighten screen material & re-hang
Touch up stain and paint in room

FRI:
Clean up
Deep Carpet cleaning (Hopefully the Green Glue will come out!)
Make fine adjustments to PJ and lens
Video calibration & add memories with Lumagen
Re-run Audyssey
REW Calibration post Quest

SAT - SUN:
MOVIE TIME!!!!

Watch the Texans not even draft a quarterback! That would piss me off because you have to have a qb to be relevant in the NFL. Look at the Colts and Packers for example. They have no D or Offensive line and they are in the mix every year. Rodgers got hurt and pack went down.

Anyways....I can't wait to see your theater done!. I really want to see it live too!

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Watch the Texans not even draft a quarterback! That would piss me off because you have to have a qb to be relevant in the NFL. Look at the Colts and Packers for example. They have no D or Offensive line and they are in the mix every year. Rodgers got hurt and pack went down.

Anyways....I can't wait to see your theater done!. I really want to see it live too!

Drafting a quarterback this year?  There is no value......................overpaid rookies are one thing............drafting a bust is another.  This year's crop of QB's are slim to none regarding franchise QB's........although there are a lot of average at best

 

Houston would be better served my taking Jake Mathews or Jadeveon Clowney..........even better yet.........but seriously, take  #1 pick and deal with highest bidder and move down board. Houston needs tools.......lots of them, especially offensively......... and hope somehow  Brian Cushing stays healthy...........a fine kid with a great head on his shoulders. ;)

 

I'd trade down, pick up Anthony Barr or Shawyne Skov..........maybe a right/ left O-tackle and safety.  This is not the year to go spending big bucks on a QB IMHO.....................shrugs..................

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I see your points and agree mostly but I think Bridgewater is going to be a good qb. The texans have a bunch of trash at the qb spot and need help immediately. They can fill the other positions in FA and the draft.

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I'm a Bridgewater fan myself. Kinda interested to see what's gonna happen with Mike Vick though.
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I would love to have him back up foles but that's not going to happen. Peterson made an interest comment about Vick to the Vikings and I think that would make their offense scary if Vick stays healthy.

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....butting up would work too.
Do not butt it against anything. Follow FabricMate's instructions. Allow 1/16" between jaws and anything else. The jaw needs room to open. This is very important on square profiles, the 1/2" beveled profile (that I think you are using) is not as sensitive to it, but it, too works better with a gap. Without it, the other part of the profile has to take 100% of the flex for the tooling and fabric.
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I recommend staples. Call me if you need help.

Staples will work...............but from my experience, tension with fabric did not hold.  Spacing intervals with staples at 4-6 inches spacing did not hold like I wanted.

Had to go back and used 3/4 Spax screws and fabric is as tight as a drum................staples are fast and easy, but IMHO don't provide the lasting strength to hold up over time..................the areas I used screws are fine, the areas I used staples had to be pulled and re-done. Of course I'm anal retentive...........

Pick your own poison.........................
4-6" is too far apart. Follow FM instructions.
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I had a fairly productive day Saturday. Other than an unplanned run to HD everything went pretty smooth.

 

I got the cabinet and door hardware installed.  I added a deadbolt to the HT entry and to the rack closet door.

 

 

I installed the Zero International jamb and automatic door bottom.  I used the 770 AA jamb and 365 AA bottom.  Other than a quick call to Ted to make sure I had it right before I started cutting it was pretty easy.  As I have said before....Ted and the Soundproofing Co are the best!!

 

I was pleased with the performance.  I knew this would be a weak spot.  I have decided that I am going to add another layer of 3/4" material and some GG to beef up the door.  I will paint the jamb and bottom when I pull the door.

 

I started to add the firring strips for the fabricmate track.  I bought a 90* bracket that was a little over a  1/16" thick as a spacer.  Insert one end into the gap, let the screw rest on the bracket, and drive it flush. 

 

I tried to use a box of deck screws that I had on hand but they were terrible.  They kept striping out the heads and were hard to start.  Hence the run to HD.  Once you go Spax you can't use anything else.

 

I also will need to touch-up the paint to the stage soffit.  The Rosco Super Sat Velour black is awesome if you can keep from touching it.


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Looks great man.

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You don't need a gap for the firring strips. Only the track. Won't hurt to have it, but it's not required. You may want to give the firring strip perimeter a touch of color so you can't see them through the gap that the fabric track needs.
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+1 - never use anything else now
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