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Hi, this is my first post and i hope someone can help. I am in the process of building a home theater and in the project there will be a riser for the rear seating. I am currently looking for a stair nosing that will house RGB LEDs. I want it to look like the aisle lighting in a movie theater.


Im looking for something like this: but i cant for the life of me find a place i can actually buy it!
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can someone help me out?
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Nice, l also want to know. Hoping someone can point out where to source the above. Where did you get those pics from?
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http://www.gradusworld.com/led-pvc-u-stair-edgings
http://www.tivolilighting.com/products/venue_products/architectural_step.aspx
http://www.vistamfg.com/categories/57/Step-Lighting-Holding-Fixtures
http://www.epicskytech.com/LED%20-STEPS.html


Here are a few of my links. I just can't find a place to buy it from. A few of them would work but i really want the vista on because of the fact it will allow me to mount the RGB leds myself saving some money and enabling me to replace bad bulbs. I really want the RGB so i can change colors.
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ya i saw that too and used it. problem is the people that replied said they ordered from vista in bulk, they said the minimum order was 50 to 100 units. all i need in about 30 foot of the stuff. really wondering if anyone has found products like these and actually be able to buy them?
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what have people don't light their risers? anyone had lights on the top of the stair? looking for ideas.
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I had a heck of a time finding something too. I didn't want anything too bright as what you want. I finally found some riser lights at Lowe's that worked perfectly. Here are some pics of them.

Here are some close up of the stairs. I put in 2 lights for each riser which seems to have worked great.




Here they are after I covered my riser.


You can see them here but they are black & disappear into the black carpet which is what I was looking for. They work great when the lights are out & they are on.

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that looks nice! My theater is going to have a lot of accent lighting, so I really want to put RGB LEDs in. until i find a Bull nose stair tread that will work and that i can actually buy.... haha this is the plan:

Rout out a standard wood stair nosing and put in this track on both the top and bottom. it comes with a lens to put over it, and works with RGB LEDs. then wire them to this wall mounted controller that can dimmer and change the color of the LEDs. A lot of work, but will look awesome. But im still looking for a tread that will save me the time.



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hey guys i know its been a while but we finally finished our riser and the tread lighting and if I'm honest its 10 times better then i thought it would have been. biggrin.gif the whole thing is custom built with tons of LED color options. Anyone interested in some pictures? cool.gif if i get enough feedback, ill even do a detailed tutorial on the system!
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hey guys i know its been a while but we finally finished our riser and the tread lighting and if I'm honest its 10 times better then i thought it would have been. biggrin.gif the whole thing is custom built with tons of LED color options. Anyone interested in some pictures? cool.gif if i get enough feedback, ill even do a detailed tutorial on the system!


of course we are interested in pics and a writeup!

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I'd like to see some pics and get some info on your final design!

When in doubt, post pictures smile.gif

Dude, are you made of leprechauns? Cause that was awesome!

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ok here it goes haha

we built our riser pretty simple. the shape of the room is rather odd, so that why we had to design the stairs in the shape we did. we wanted to avoid sharp corners in the oak by having 90 degree corners.

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so basically I looked for months for a prefabbed stairnosing that I could put RGB LEDS. needless to say they were either terribly expensive or non existent. So we chose to build our own. We headed to home depot and bought some lengths of 3 by 1 inch pieces of oak. we then rounded the front edge to make is look and feel like a normal stair nosing.

so at this point we had an oak stair nosing, now we needed LEDs. we cut out a 5/8 by 1/4 inch deep run down the oak to fit in the aluminum track we had bought.
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we also bought a frosted lens that covers the track and protects the LEDs
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the track we chose is made to fit 3825 sized LEDs, we wanted multi colored, so we bought RGB.

so that sorta gives the idea how we put it together, ill post again with the more detailed build in a bit. Heres a couple of pictures of the finished product.






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Heres the controller we used, mounted in the side wall where we are planning on putting the chairs

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coming into the controller box is a multi colored 4 wire that goes to the LEDs and 12v power

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currently we have it connected to just a standard 12v power brick to make it easier to fix if something goes wrong.
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That looks really nice! I'm impressed at just how nice that ended up!

Dude, are you made of leprechauns? Cause that was awesome!

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same here! i could not be more pleased. The RGB function is awesome the controller has tons of modes and effects it can do. pretty awesome controller! I want to try and record a video of the lights changing and the modes.
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can you give me the info on where you got that controller and setup? I haven't seen that style - only the remotes etc

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sure! took me a while to find this because i was really set on a wall mount controller to control the LEDs. i found this one from oracle for 70$ and just wasn't able to speand that on a controller so i kept looking and found a generic one from US LED supply. Its identical to the oracle one and works great. best part is it was 25$ biggrin.gif here are some of the links

http://www.automotivelightstore.com/wallledcontroller.aspx

http://www.usledsupply.com/shop/rgb-8k-touch-remote-control.html


the setup is rather simple:

12volt=====controller(output to LED 4 wire)======splitter=====LED runs

the power supply i am using is similar to a PC charging cable as in it just plugs into a wall outlet i put in. decided to do this to allow upgrades or repairs without needing to kill a breaker.

the controller uses a screw in terminal, making it super easy to connect.

the only thing i had to some what change is I soldered a connecter to the 4 wire to allow me to connect to the splitter.

everything else uses 4 pin connecters and all can be unplugged if need be.
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So the LED runs are powered by the output of the controller?


I need quite a few feet - wonder how I can add more power along the runs without losing the wall control

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Yes that's correct the 12v comes out of the controller and powers the LEDs. How many feet are you needing. The controller can handle quite a few meters of lights
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And FYI I have through this project become educated on LEDs so if you guys have any questions. Ask away!
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Yes that's correct the 12v comes out of the controller and powers the LEDs. How many feet are you needing. The controller can handle quite a few meters of lights


I have two areas in my ceiling that (rectangles) are complete separate (separated by a beam) The one is probably around 22feet and the other is probably around 50feet.

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I have bought parts from this place before. They have several different types of channel although I didn't see any that looked like what you are looking for. Perhaps you can make one of these work?

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/housings/page/1/
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I have two areas in my ceiling that (rectangles) are complete separate (separated by a beam) The one is probably around 22feet and the other is probably around 50feet.

Gotcha so this is what I would do. Buy sow thing like this http://www.usledsupply.com/shop/rgb-amplifier-8a.html

Then you can wire.
12v power===controller====amp(which also needs power)====LEDs

Basically. You need 2 power supplies. One to power the controller which will more or less control the amp And the amp therefore powers the LEDs as needed
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I have bought parts from this place before. They have several different types of channel although I didn't see any that looked like what you are looking for. Perhaps you can make one of these work?

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/housings/page/1/

Who are you looking to help? Just confused I have already completed my project. I ended up using the small rectangular track pictured in the first couple post. smile.gif
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My bad...its been a long day....
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My bad...its been a long day....

Same here. Haha. No big deal.
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Now that looks sweet! I use tons of RGB / LED lights in my holiday lighting display and I am planning our home theater build now and knew I would incorporate RGB somehow. Could you tell me which RGB lights you used?

Thanks!
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well i wanted to go with 5050 RGBs originally but i also wanted to keep them low profile until they were turned on. So i ended up using 3528s.

The difference is that 5050 have the 3 colored leds in one light "chip" so you can truly have any color, verses 3528s that have 3 Leds repeating down the line. 5050 cool color options and cool patterns 3528s are better for bright color wall washing

hope that answers your question!
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Ok yep, I meant more along the lines of what module style did you use. I have tons of the 5050 flexible waterproof strip laying around, did you use strip or did you use, separate modules or nodes as I call them.
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