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Ok so I originally had can lights in the project for lighting my theater but then I got to thinking, do I really want 6 holes in my soundproof ceiling. So I opted for track lighting. However, these require similar sized holes in the ceiling as well correct? Is there a way to sound proof the hole for track lighting? Or perhaps another idea for lighting entirely. Such as a single bright track light that doesn't require a large hole in the ceiling.

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I went with those sealed style can lighting and have been happy. Not perfect but much better lighting than track lighting IMO. I couldn't notice an appreciable increase in sound level after installing them so I suppose that's a good thing. You could do a track style that attached to the ceiling instead, but I hate those.

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You want to build backer boxes for each of your can lights. The Sound Proofing Company has a great instruction manual on building and installing.
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Yeah I had the manual printed out when I was going to do backer boxes but I honestly probably don't have time to build six of them as twins are on the way so now i'm in a rush to get this room finished. What about puck lights...do they require sizable holes in the ceiling?

Bass addict are you referring to track lighting where only the wires come through the ceiling and then in to the track? why do you hate them?

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You can buy the boxes pre-made. http://www.soundisolationstore.com/quietbox-recessed-light-soundproofing.html

BIG used them on this build but, had an issue with them. I'm still awaiting a response from him on what the issue was but, they made use of them.
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I personally don't like track lighting for a theater either. Reminds me of an art gallery instead of a theater IMHO.
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Oh nice didn't even know they came pre assembled like that. Hmmm let me know what that issue was when you know please. If it's not a big one that will change my plan again hehe. If it is...

I was reading that puck lights in ceilings isn't code because the wiring shouldn't be up in the drywall and in contact with insulation. Is there a way around this ie. ones that can be wired to code. To my knowledge puck lights only require a hole for the wire and that's it. Would want whatever lights in the ceiling to be dimmable though.

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I looked at the price for those preassembled boxes, yikes! $50 per box including shipping per box. No thanks. I thought about it some more and would rather not have holes in my ceiling that big, backer boxes or not. Going to talk to my electrician later this week about surface mounting the pucks and having the wire in an external conduit that can be painted to match the ceiling. And it looks like they can be controled via Lutron Dimmer switch as well which is perfect.

I think it'll be a nice look actually, seeing as how i'm doing a submarine theme for my room. These also look neat as an option: http://www.pegasuslighting.com/xenon-triangle-lights.html

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Could you just run the conduit through your ceiling behind the pucks? A small hole like that could be caulked around it, and you might even be able to put some sealant in the conduit.

Exposed conduit can look nice if it's part of the aesthetic of the room (industrial theme maybe). However, IMHO, exposed conduit that's painted to try to blend in just makes it stand out more.

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Yeah that's definitely a possibility. I've been reading that puck light wire is not code in drywall but if it's contained in a conduit I suppose it doesn't matter. I will ask my electrician his thoughts. Just hope the hardwire box isn't too big. Wonder if that could be placed in the ceiling as well.

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How about low voltage pucks with a transformer?
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I found these: http://www.pegasuslighting.com/xenon-line-voltage-puck-lights.html

Reading through the specs I think they match everything I want.
- Hardwire
- Dimmable through Insteon/Lutron (I think, can anyone confirm?)

Was thinking about using this to cover the wires: http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/100657474?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051&N=5yc1vZbm6q&R=100657474#.UW4TjcoQNsI

Would anyone know what kind of wire is needed to hardwire these?

Also would these dimmable puck lights give off a certain hum while dimmed since they don't have a transformer?

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Anyone? Can a low voltage transformer be hidden at all. Where does one put it?

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Why not just put it in your furnace room on the wall that shares the theater wall?
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good idea. Wasn't sure if there was a maximum distance between the lightswitch hardwire and the box itself but it doesn't look like there is. That will be perfect Thanks Tom.

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I bought a 3 pack of those puck lights I was looking at online, turns out my local Menards carries them. They are nice and bright. They get a little hot, especially the frosted glass cover but other than that look good:) Going to have my electrician hardwire the light switch to the hardwire box in the furnace room like you said Tom then start the puck lights from that point and daisy chain them:)

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