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After 37 years in the Army they were kind enough (with begging) to reassign me to my future retirement location. 3 of my adult children live here with 9 grand children. I will be able to enjoy them and watch them grow unlike my own kids with the multiple deployments and overseas assignments over the years. I am having a house built on 5 acres in GA. Far enough out of town to have some privacy but close enough to work and shopping.

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Screen DYI frame with Seymour Center Stage HD 126" wide 2.0 screen with minimalist wall and velvet panels. The Screen being 126"x65" gives me
126"x52" 2.40:1 with 136" diag, 6 12" bars top and bottom
126"x54" 2.35:1 with 137" diag, 5 1/2" bars top and bottom
120"x65" 1.85:1 with 137" diag, (man this size make it like being there) 3" bars both sides
116"x65" 16x9 with 133" diag. 5" bars both sides
So in the way the best of both worlds If I would have done a 2.40:1 screen 126" wide my 16x9 size would have been 92"x52" with 106" diag. If I would have done 16X9 65" tall my 2.40:1 would have been 116"x48" 126" diag.
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this is what the media center looks like now with my 48 port switch and Comcast modem.

I made some adjustments to my screen wall raising it 3 inches so I needed to realign the AE-8000 I had to grab a 16x9 film and start messing with the frigging joystick. mad.gif I knew Avatar was filmed in 16x9 so I grabbed it. After getting the PJ aligned I said to myself “self why not watch Avatar it has been a while since you watched it last” wink.gif Of course I had to get out the 3D glasses rolleyes.gif all I have to say is “holly crap” eek.gif the color and 3D was amazing. biggrin.gif These pictures are with my cell phone through my left lens on 3rd generation glasses. Panasonic AE-8000 PJ set to normal with fan in normal. Look at the color this screen produces while looking through the lenes of the 3D glasses.



Nothing beats watching Avatar in 3d on a 116"x65" 16x9 with 133" diag. from 10'6" in full 7.2 surround sound

Projector Panasonic AE-8000 with Peerless Universal mount
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Congrats! It's great to see the full floorplan to understand the layout - but the room dimensions for the theater are a tad too small to make out. Can you zoom in on that area now and post that as well?

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Thank you for your service Cheif, and congratulations on building your dream house.
From what I can see here, you are talking about a 2nd floor installation, 9' ceiling, coming off a "pool room" which is what i imagine will be where you play pool, not swim in it. Soundproofing could be somewhat of a challenge. I see 9' ceiling, but the rest of the dimensions I can't make out. Good luck on your project!
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House build and theater build in one? AWESOME!!!

Hey, so it's not toooo late, there are some details you might want to attend to WRT the theater room before that area is completely finished. Things you can do to increase sound insulation and whatnot. I'm not sure how much you have looked into those details yet?

I see that your theater is over the Garage/Workshop and that the ceiling is dropped down 12" for the workshop. So it's like you have a built-in riser in the room. Cool. At least you don't have to worry about how much noise is transmitted down below. Biggest concern would probably be that back wall.
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you guys are two quick the room is 18'x23' on the plans. I paid a little extra to have the ceiling of the work shop lowered 12 " so I will have a built in riser. Lower area is 18'x14' uper arear is 9'x18'


I also paid a little extra to raise the roof line 3' so the knee wall in the front is 7' with a 10' ceiling. in the reae 6' knee with 9' ceiling I am working with John at sound proffing company but open for any and all sugestions.
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23 March 2013 clearing the lot

28 March footers

29 March getting ready for concret

31 March concret poored. this part of GA not many basements due to water table

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Just some ideas but you'll probably want to use some Roxul ComfortBatt on the exterior walls, Roxul safe n' sound on the rear wall. Your room is big enough you could do a "double wall" on the back wall with a 2" space in between them. Double drywall with green glue, backer boxes for all the can lights in the ceiling. Acoustic sealant for all the cracks, crevices, and electrical intrusions.

Oh yeah, and an extra 20-amp circuit for your HT gear. smile.gif
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House build and theater build in one? AWESOME!!!
Hey, so it's not toooo late, there are some details you might want to attend to WRT the theater room before that area is completely finished. Things you can do to increase sound insulation and whatnot. I'm not sure how much you have looked into those details yet?
working with sound proofing company. Ever try to explain to a non english speaking framer how to do a decoupled wall with IB-3 clips LOL. I am hopeing he understood.
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Just some ideas but you'll probably want to use some Roxul ComfortBatt on the exterior walls, Roxul safe n' sound on the rear wall. Your room is big enough you could do a "double wall" on the back wall with a 2" space in between them. Double drywall with green glue, backer boxes for all the can lights in the ceiling. Acoustic sealant for all the cracks, crevices, and electrical intrusions.
Oh yeah, and an extra 20-amp circuit for your HT gear. smile.gif
I already spoke to John about most of that. IB-1 clips every where but the back wall which will be double stud. I thought everyone said the OC pink stuff was good enough. what is the benifet of the Roxule Comfort Bat. My AV gear will be in a media closet. I have the electrican running a 100 Amp sub pannel there with 2 dedicated 20 amp outlets in that room. also 2 dedicated 20 amp outlets on the screen wall. I plan to do an AT screen with a 24" screen wall.
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Just some ideas but you'll probably want to use some Roxul ComfortBatt on the exterior walls, Roxul safe n' sound on the rear wall.

Isn't the common knowledge here from the experts (Ted) that Safe-n-sound doesn't provide much if any benefit over the pink fluffy stuff for the cost? I'd ask Ted the same question about the ComfortBatt...

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decisions decisions sound proofing or home automation. Maybe if I let the WAF get her range hood and the $3500 double stack microwave/convection oven I can do both!! LOL
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I will be stealing a lot of your ideas already looking at how you framed door for starters.
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I'd absolutely get the cheapest fiberglass you can. Why waste funds on something that has no demonstrable improvement? By demonstrable, I mean laboratory data in the low frequencies. Cheap fiberglass has the edge.

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I'd absolutely get the cheapest fiberglass you can. Why waste funds on something that has no demonstrable improvement? By demonstrable, I mean laboratory data in the low frequencies. Cheap fiberglass has the edge.

I just did a cost comparison between Roxul safe n' sound and regular R13 insulation. It looks like the R13 is about half the cost.

Should I put a double or thicker layer (such as R-19) in the ceiling joists or is that a waste of time? I mean, I have the room. Also, for the paper-backed R-13, is the paper a good thing or a bad thing?
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R13 in walls, R19 in ceiling. I like paper faced.

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If code allows, I'd look at switching the swing direction on your theater entry door. A 3' wide in-swinging door doesn't leave you much room on your riser for reclining theater seats.

Have you given any thought to your seating arrangement (qty and placement)?

I look forward to following along.
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Spaceman i plan to add another 11 inch to the riser between the steps. When we were looking for a living room set at the Army Exchange I ran across theses Ashley media chairs with motor. Regular price $399 on sale $127 with free delivery. I bought 8
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My Wife and builder were riding around looking at doors, stone, flooring and the like. Now both of them have heard me say many times I am going to finish the theater myself. Just leave me the OSB drywall and framing timber and I will be happy. As we were looking for carpet for the rest of the house she says to the guy what do you have for theaters? My jaw must have been on the floor. He proceeds to show us some nice samples. I reminded her that with me building a stage and the like we needed to wait so they can properly measure the room. She is as excited as I am about the theater.

Here she is supervising the construction with my daughter. Hard to believe my daughter is 33 with 3 kids from that pic

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How far south are you? Looks like south of Macon.
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How far south are you? Looks like south of Macon.
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First of all thank you for your lifetime of service to our country! What a nice house plan. That many bedrooms might invite some family members to move back in with you though biggrin.gif

A great size for your room. Lots of possibilities.
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First of all thank you for your lifetime of service to our country! What a nice house plan. That many bedrooms might invite some family members to move back in with you though biggrin.gif

A great size for your room. Lots of possibilities.
thanks Dale I keep telling people I am still in because I do not know what I want to do when I grow up. Aside from that at key points when it was time to retire things would hapen which would incurage me to stay i.e 911
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Yesterday I was on the phone with John from Sound Proofing Company and may I say what a great bunch of folks to work with. I made a modest contribution to Ted and John's retirement fund and I will be receiving some goodies on Tuesday or Wednesday. I found the hat channel I need with my builders main building supply company. They also carry all the screws I will need sheet metal for the hat channel and metal drywall screws 1 ¼” and 2”. I am going to have the builder order my second layer of subflooring and lumber to make my decoupled double wall in the rear. I also need some lumber for the nailers at both ends of the ceiling? That and hanging 340 clips should keep me busy next week end.

SEE HOW MUCH I LEARNED FROM JOHN!!!

THANKS JOHN AND TED!
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Ok I meat with the builder and the HVAC guy today. They have 4 ea 6" ducts running to the theater. I know it does not happen without PICs I promise to do better. Once I explained that I want to have my sound proof room and will be building Soffits to run the supply line and will need a return. I also said I may not want to heat and cool the room 24 hours 7 days a week and started discussing pricing for the zone control.

He said the best way to do what I want is to put in a ductless system from Mitsubishi which would probably run me about $2100. He said the benefit is that I can run it anytime I like and the recovery from off to on is really quick. Second benefit is that I now do not have to make 5 huge holes in my sound proof shell which I will then have to run in the soffits. I stated I had split units in Hawaii and the apt I am in now, they are loud and I do not like them. He claims they are really quiet he has one in his office and claims you do not know it is on. I looked on line and they claim from 19-22db. Does anyone know what that means noise wise. He claims that with the baffles in the zoned system when it is scaling back the air flow that it will be louder than the duct less.
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