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post #91 of 178 Old 10-20-2013, 09:32 PM - Thread Starter
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Well today was a bust.

At the wife's urging (and my body's as well) I took the day off and just relaxed... Also our oldest child did NOT come to dinner as he said he would bailing last minute on us, so no luck having him carry a bunch of supplies for me.

Only think I did was draw out the screen on the front wall and tape it off. (Which I forgot to take pictures of, will do so tomorrow)

I have a whopping 13" of free space to divide top and bottom....

Don't think I need too much space for the masking system, if the tube is 2" and add on the fabric increasing the size to maybe 3" or so, I am thinking I will give 5 inches at the top and 8 inches from the bottom. The farther I can get it off the ground the better while still giving me a bit of wiggle room at the top.

I have sent out a couple emails to metal places here in the city to see if I can get a smooth aluminum tube. And fingers crossed it is not too expensive.

Way I see it I can at least use one of the tubes I have for the bottom roller as it will not have need of a motor.

Other option is there is a Somfy 40 up in ebay for $90. Issue is I have to do a US run to my mailbox to get it, and with gas + exchange + travel time + duty and tax, likely just cheaper to grab a new tube that works here...

Things will be slowing down a bit now with work starting again.

Hope to get my materials in this week, and finish up the ceiling if I can. At least that way I can finally do the carpet and move in the couch and get the recliners delivered.

Can also store all the remaining carpet in the theater (and get it out of the garage!) once I have that done.

At least we have no plans this weekend so I have 2 full days!

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I don't suppose PVC would work? It certainly doesn't have the same bling as aluminum, but it also doesn't have the price smile.gif

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I don't suppose PVC would work? It certainly doesn't have the same bling as aluminum, but it also doesn't have the price smile.gif

Lol, nothing to do with the Bling factor sadly.

From what I have read you need an Aluminum tube to set the stops properly. People have used other materials (steel, plastics) and it seems the motors lose their memory of when to stop and will just unspool completely.

That being said I guess I could have used a plastic PVC pipe for the bottom roller tube darn it.....

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Where is the sensor? Could you use a plastic tube and then wrap a metal band around the region with the sensor? Odd that it has to be aluminum. It's non-ferrous, so you would think it would be interchangeable with plastic or other non-ferrous materials.

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Where is the sensor? Could you use a plastic tube and then wrap a metal band around the region with the sensor? Odd that it has to be aluminum. It's non-ferrous, so you would think it would be interchangeable with plastic or other non-ferrous materials.

To be honest, not a clue where the sensor is. I have never understood it myself actually, but there have been a few people here that have made their own auto masking systems, and the consensus is always aluminum tube oddly.

On a positive note I did get a quote back from the metal place, $146 cut to 12ft, 2.5inch tub with a inside diameter of 2"inches.

I have not yet given up on the existing ones, I am still of the mind to find a way to either bore it out, or somehow notch the motor housing.

Maybe a dremel? Or possibly on the table saw with a metal blade just sunk to 1/8" maybe?

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Do you need to remove the splines for the whole length of the tube, or just the ends? I'm not familiar with how the somfy motors mount. If it's just the ends then you can probably get by with a sanding drum on a dremel tool or a drill press.

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On the Somfy motors I'm familiar with, there is a wheel on the end of the motor which slides into the tube, and uses the splines to grab the aluminum tube. The position sensors are inside the motor, Without the splines, the wheel (which is driven by the motor) will simply spin inside the aluminum tube, rather than rotating the tube.
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Do you need to remove the splines for the whole length of the tube, or just the ends? I'm not familiar with how the somfy motors mount. If it's just the ends then you can probably get by with a sanding drum on a dremel tool or a drill press.

The motor is like a long cylindrical tube, it is about 25 inches long, so that much would need to be inserted into the tub, so I wiuld either need to score the housing on the motor for the length of it, or bore the aluminum tube to the 25 inch mark.

Just looked at the sanding drum now and it gave me an idea, i wounder if I could just flat sand the motor down that 1/16th of an inch I need.

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Alright, screen size pic as promised:

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Sadly my back is completely out again, and I working from home for the next few days while it heals up.

So no basement work for me for a bit again dang it....

Hopefully will be feeling a bit better by the weekend with luck.

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Bummer about your back. I hope it gets better soon, otherwise who else is going to complete the theatre?
The screen size looks impressive. I like.
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Bummer about your back. I hope it gets better soon, otherwise who else is going to complete the theatre?
The screen size looks impressive. I like.

Thanks man. Still laid up in bed damn it. So frustrating as I just want to keep working on the basement....

I am thinking the screen will take a little time to get used to, gonna have a bit of an imax feel in the beginning I think. I look forward to seeing what 3d is like the most. Gonna be sweet smile.gif

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Well have some sorrowful news today.

Just got back from the Chiropractor as I have not gotten any better yet.

Well turns out I have ruptured a disc in my spine.... Started off as a small rip, now it is a big rip that goes all the way to the center, and the core of the disc is pushing out.

I have been told I have to keep from sitting or bending over forward for 2 weeks at the least, and even then it will be a while before I am back to tip top shape.

I am unlikely to be allow to do anything strenuous for a month or so....

This is brutal. Been in bed for 4 days already, and I am going nuts... I just want to be up and active.

So unlikely to be any updates for a while now. Maybe the end of November with luck.

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Very sorry to hear that - hope you are back in better shape soon!

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Very sorry to hear that - hope you are back in better shape soon!

Thanks man, appreciate that.

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Thanks man, appreciate that.

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Thanks man, appreciate it.

So how is the house coming?

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Thanks man, appreciate it.

So how is the house coming?

very well thanks for asking

will be posting some updated pics tomorrow - exterior is now 100% except for the deck which was a late add - we should get to see the final product on Friday. With any luck we'll get keys next weekend.
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Well have some sorrowful news today.

Just got back from the Chiropractor as I have not gotten any better yet.

Well turns out I have ruptured a disc in my spine.... Started off as a small rip, now it is a big rip that goes all the way to the center, and the core of the disc is pushing out.

I have been told I have to keep from sitting or bending over forward for 2 weeks at the least, and even then it will be a while before I am back to tip top shape.

I am unlikely to be allow to do anything strenuous for a month or so....

This is brutal. Been in bed for 4 days already, and I am going nuts... I just want to be up and active.

So unlikely to be any updates for a while now. Maybe the end of November with luck.


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Sorry to hear about this. Take it easy and get well.

Thanks Mike.

Still stuck in bed. Feeling a bit better though finally. Not using my cane anymore which is a huge improvement already.

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So small update. Not much has changed in the basement sadly, still in bed most of the day as it is the most comfortable and I am still not suppose to be sitting, but I am upwardly mobile now and am getting out again thankfully.

Pain is subsiding, but still little things set it off if I am not careful.

Gonna be slow and stead here on out.

As for the theater, we did however take delivery of our recliners for the theater on Friday. I will have pics tomorrow, but as it stands they are fantastic.

Both are from La-z-boy, the Greyson collection. My wife got a vanilla no frills chair, she had no interest in power features or anything.

Mine on the other hand is the Cadillac of chairs.

It is the Power XR+ Model, power recline, power headrest and power lumbar support. And boy oh boy does it feel great.

I am happy to report as well that with the seat fully reclined, or in any position for that matter our feet will not obscure any of the screen view. And from what I can tell the back row will be fine as well.

This makes it all the more hard to know these comfy chairs are just waiting for my butt and I am still so far away from complete.

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Sorry to hear about your back! Having back pain is a lot like having kids. Until you've lived through, you just don't understand! Here's hoping for a speedy recovery!

With regard to the chairs, sounds awesome. Looking forward to pics!

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Sorry to hear about your back! Having back pain is a lot like having kids. Until you've lived through, you just don't understand! Here's hoping for a speedy recovery!

With regard to the chairs, sounds awesome. Looking forward to pics!

Lol, that is soooo true. One cannot simply describe how debilitating it is (both kids and back pain smile.gif )

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OK, headed down and grabbed some pics.

Here are the seats roughly in place.

Glad we took delivery early as now I can get a footprint size for them to make the buttkicker insert.

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Lastly a view from eye level of to the screen. This is the most comfortable position I could get and likely my main viewing seat setting:

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As you can see by the tape I still have a little more room at the top. Think I will be moving it up a couple inches.

Picked up a shelving unit this week for the AV room for the consoles and BD player to live in, and it is 70" tall, this is the exact height of my cutout for the projection window which means I can use this as my stand for the projector as well.

Hope to punch of the theater side soon and pop in the projector again for a final test now that the seats are in place, then I should be able to get a hard position on the screen.

I am so looking forward to the following week when I can hopefully get back to work, both in the office and on the basement.

Have a little rework to do due to a misunderstanding about pot lights. I insulated the places they are going, this was a mistake, unless I have IC lights, or the respective housings, they can;t touch insulation. Thankfully I am early enough along to correct this easily.

Will have to grab a couple of the housings and see if I can work them in. Just have to pop 2 of the small bulkhead pieces of drywall off is all.

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So still very little progress. Taking it easy still, have another week off work now.

Spoke to the boss last week and he pretty much said if you are still not tip top, then take another week if you need it.

Still tender. Chiropractor is still concerned as the disc is not all the way back in yet, so more visits next week.

What I did do was get the basement cleaned up a little, sweeping and taking all the crap to the garage I don't need anymore. Looks a lot tidier down there now.

Also picked up a shelving unit at Home Depot this past week to hold all the consoles and stuff. Worked out perfectly as it is 70" high and the projection window is 72"

It was pretty light on the physical side so I took a crack at putting it together.

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Also popped the projector on top to see how things will line up with the chairs in place.

I am thankful to report the clear by about 4 ", also clearance to the bulkhead is about 3" as well. Took some shots to illustrate the offset:

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Here is a shot of the projection hole. I need to bore it our a little bigger unfortunately, the image just catches it on the bottom left of the screen:

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Lastly the main screen wall with image roughly where it will be.

I am thrilled the seats were not an issue, been on my mind for ages now if they would be low enough.

Still gonna be bumped up about another inch once you add carped and the butt kicker inlay but should still clear no problem.

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So another micro update.

Still not fully healed and seeing the Chiro twice a week. He told me today flat out that I am not healed enough to be doing anythiung major and said if this type of injury happened at work, workers comp would have me off for 12 - 14 weeks...

Ugh. I am so tired of just relaxing and taking it easy already, just want to finish up downstairs.

I did get a little more done in the basement. I tied in the rest of the junction boxes in. Still have not wired to the main panel, soon I think now that all the lose ends are tied up.

Got the pex all run and tied into the main line for the bathroom sink and toilet, as well as the bathroom fan, had to cut the vent hole outside for that one.

Little bizarre cutting a hole in your exterior, little nerve wracking because there is no going back if you do it wrong.

Also finally ran the water line to the fridge while I had the water off.

Theater wise I come to find an issue with my plan for he projection hole. the damn IR blaster for the 3d.

I completely forgot the Panny need to have a clear shot at the theater to sync up the glasses. So much for my nice discrete round hole. Not sue how big I am going to have to go, and I just hope that it does not have issues shooting through glass.

I guess I will go back to a rectangle wide enough to encompass the emitter.

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Well after long last, here is a pic heavy update.

My back is almost healed now, and I have been putting in 1-2 hrs a day for a few weeks no, that is about all I can handle. But it is finally paying off.

All the drywall is now done! Thank god!

Rented a drywall lift for a month and just did a sheet or two at a time plugging away.

Have all the 4" pot-lights in now, and just 4x 6" cans left to go in tonight and all the lighting is finished.

Most of the switches and plugs are wired as well. Bathroom fan is in, pocket doors and bathroom and maintenance doors are up as well.

All the panel is now wired as well too.

Riser bench is just about finished, going to be finishing the BK drop ins this week, and the second layer of plywood on the lower half as well.

Decided to bite the bullet and have a mudding crew come in to tape and mud the basement.

I had already purchased all the mud and corners, and all the tools I need which ran me just over $200. I thought it may be worth it to get a quote for the basement just in case it is not that much.

Well it worked out to only $750 all told and they expect to be here for about a week. Today was the first day, so a bit to go yet sadly.

I have a few weeks off over Christmas, last day is Dec 20 going back Jan 6th, so I plan in that time to do the carpet and get moved into the theater.

No acoustical panel will be up yet, but at least it will be functional.

I am thinking maybe by spring I should have them all ready. Once the theater is complete I have to work on the shelving for my wife before the panels, and who knows how long that will take.

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Nice work hanging the drywall and a great decision to have pros do the mudding/finish. I did my own but, it was by far (especially the sanding) the worst and slowest part of the project. I don't believe I'd do it again.

Sports are going to be very impressive on your big screen too!
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Nice work hanging the drywall and a great decision to have pros do the mudding/finish. I did my own but, it was by far (especially the sanding) the worst and slowest part of the project. I don't believe I'd do it again.

Sports are going to be very impressive on your big screen too!

I can definitely see the slow factor, these guys are taking forever. smile.gif I am thinking it was money very well spent.

Not much of a sports fan, but I do have some friends that are, may have to treat them to a game or two on the big screen.

I am just looking forward to watching our first movie in the theater. Hopefully I can be in there for Christmas as al lthe family is coming over

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Made some big progress this weekend.

Got the riser platform finished finally.

Got all the nosing finished and the second layer of plywood on now.

Also all the rope lights hooked up and in.

Small lesson learned on the rope lights.

Three actually.

Number one, the rope lights at Home Depot cannot be cut. I have had many over the years from other places and always had the option to chop them, well not so here, or so say the instructions. I decided not to try lest I nuke a full 50' of lights.

Number Two

The channel that home depot sells to run them in is total garbage. it is not small enough or tight enough to allow the lights to stay in the track, they fit in there loose and I had to actually strap them in to keep them in place.

Number Three

I did not really think through turning them on correctly. I have them plugged into a Insteon outlet I plan to control via iRule. Now this is going to work just fine, only issue is timing. I have them so they can illuminate the walkway and the riser, problem is, they will not be on until I make it to my main seating area and power them up. Kinda defeats the purpose. Had I thought this trough I should have wired them into a actual switch on the wall that could be turned on and off via iRule, then I could flip them on when I enter, but dim them or turn them off when a movie starts.

Butt kickers are installed and both work, testing was a real SOB with no real sources hooked up. Had to use internet radio which did not really give me the low end, I could hear sound from them at least so I know they and the Yamaha amp work, but to fully try them I will need to have things configured properly later.

What I did here was cut a hole in the platform to accommodate them, removed the insulation where they will be, and bolted them through a plywood sheet the size of the chair footprints + about 2-3 inches on all sides.

Then I put down a layer of 7lb underpad between the plywood and the hole. This should in theory give me a bit of bounce as well as isolate the reverb to just the front seats.

With the additional layer of plywood on the riser now this brings my thickness up, and now I just need to put a layer of passing everywhere else and then
carpet right over them.

Fingers crossed this all works as intended.

More pics below to show off the work.



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I did not really think through turning them on correctly. I have them plugged into a Insteon outlet I plan to control via iRule. Now this is going to work just fine, only issue is timing. I have them so they can illuminate the walkway and the riser, problem is, they will not be on until I make it to my main seating area and power them up. Kinda defeats the purpose. Had I thought this trough I should have wired them into a actual switch on the wall that could be turned on and off via iRule, then I could flip them on when I enter, but dim them or turn them off when a movie starts.

You could still put an Insteon keypad by the door (either just inside or outside the theater) that can communicate with the Insteon outlet. That way you can manually turn them on when entering and turn them off via iRule once you're seated and the movie starts.
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