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As the title states, does anyone know of a contractor in the Southern Ontario area that is willing to listen to the home owner and take the time to build a HT right?

I'm almost at the point of comparing reviews of miter saws and cancelling all plans for the next 52 (optimistically) weekends.
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Didn't you know Big will work for homemade maple syrup? It is his preferred currency.

I betcha he could be convinced to make the trip up north of the border. You should just PM him about it.

As someone who was a hairs breath away from having him do my theater I would strongly encourage you to talk to him about it. I would have been better off had I done so. He brings a ton of knowledge and experience to the table and this will produce a better end result and most likely end up saving you money as well. It would be difficult to find a specialty HT contractor who is willing to let the owner put in his own sweat equity to reduce costs.

And you can count on having to babysit a general contractor. You will have to be well versed to instruct them and keep them from mistakes.
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I'm just so happy to see how in-demand BIG (or someone with his skillset) is! He's a great guy, hard worker, and deserves all of the credit he gets! Finding a general contractor who also understands the details of proper theater design is tough to do.

One small challenge (In addition to acquiring the big man) would be typical shopping variances. All the places we might be used to getting things might be different or not ship outside of the US!

Best of luck to you and I wish you well! I wonder where theater building will be in 25 years... maybe I'll have to pick this job up when I retire too!
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Training breakfast for a trip north of the border

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Have you looking at www.londonaudio.com they make ht rooms.
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Hang on guys! Canada has labor laws just as we do. It's a bit of paperwork and some tap dancing for Big or anyone else to go jaunting over the border. I know us Americans like to think the border beween our two countries is fairly lax. While on most things it relatively is, but on this type of thing, they aren't. In fact, they are quite hard on it. Come in there with a bunch of equipment, and you are likely to get it confiscated with a swift boot outta Canada and a bar from ever entering the country again. Further, you have to prove that only you, and no one else in Canada can do this job. They are pretty thorough about it, too. I've been through it and it was no fun to get a work visa from the Canadian government. So, on that note, we have worked with an outstanding company in the GTA. These guys are top notch and do a heck of a job! Contact me if you are interested.

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Hang on guys! Canada has labor laws just as we do. It's a bit of paperwork and some tap dancing for Big or anyone else to go jaunting over the border. I know us Americans like to think the border beween our two countries is fairly lax. While on most things it relatively is, but on this type of thing, they aren't. In fact, they are quite hard on it. Come in there with a bunch of equipment, and you are likely to get it confiscated with a swift boot outta Canada and a bar from ever entering the country again. Further, you have to prove that only you, and no one else in Canada can do this job. They are pretty thorough about it, too. I've been through it and it was no fun to get a work visa from the Canadian government. So, on that note, we have worked with an outstanding company in the GTA. These guys are top notch and do a heck of a job! Contact me if you are interested.

So big can't log his steampunk drill-press up there? Well all bets are off then!
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h2 systems has a lot of really cool theaters they've built http://h2systems.ca/

they're probably expensive though, and seem to focus on "luxury" theaters.
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Sublime in Mississauga ... they have such at their disposal and have worked with us on some remarkable rooms in the Ontario area.
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So big can't log his steampunk drill-press up there? Well all bets are off then!

For Big to work in Canada, he will have to have a work permit applied for, and paid for, by the homeowner. It can take upwards of 30 days to get the permit which will have to be in Big's hand as he crosses the border. In the application, the homeowner will have to document why there is no one else in Canada who can perform the work requested. The homeowner will also have to document that he/she has sought out Canadians (at least three), interviewed those others, and document the reasons why they were not qualified to do the work. Should Big then get a work permit and travel to Canada, he will need to document (make, model, serial number) the equipment he is bringing into Canada (at both the U.S. and Canadian sides) so that when he leaves Canada he won't be charged duty on the equipment in his vehicle. Canada *may* require he post a bond for the equipment which will be refunded when he exits the country and can show he is leaving with exactly the equipment he brought into Canada.

How do I know? Been there (more than once), done that.

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Training breakfast for a trip north of the border


Umm, we eat poutine for breakfast here - sometimes drizzled with maple syrup.
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When I was in Canada, I think we poured LaBatt's on our breakfast. Sometimes Molson. Is that a Canadian thing or just a "10 College guys traveling on the schools' dime" type of thing? eek.gifbiggrin.gif
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Thanks for the suggestions, johnbr, jwagstagg, and Dennis.

SMB - was Sublime the same company you were going to mention?

SMB and Dennis are right, of course, about the complexities of a foreigner working in Canada. Embarrassing but true. I won't get in to the Politics involved but that's all that it really is - politics.

That being said, BIG can throw a couple of fishing rods in the bed of his truck and go visit friends in Ontario for a few weeks, right? Plus the personal exemption limit will allow him to return with cases of maple syrup, gravy, cheese curds, PEI potatoes....oh and a case of Labatt 50.
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Hang on guys! Canada has labor laws just as we do. It's a bit of paperwork and some tap dancing for Big or anyone else to go jaunting over the border. I know us Americans like to think the border beween our two countries is fairly lax. While on most things it relatively is, but on this type of thing, they aren't. In fact, they are quite hard on it. Come in there with a bunch of equipment, and you are likely to get it confiscated with a swift boot outta Canada and a bar from ever entering the country again. Further, you have to prove that only you, and no one else in Canada can do this job. They are pretty thorough about it, too. I've been through it and it was no fun to get a work visa from the Canadian government. So, on that note, we have worked with an outstanding company in the GTA. These guys are top notch and do a heck of a job! Contact me if you are interested.

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Sublime in Mississauga ... they have such at their disposal and have worked with us on some remarkable rooms in the Ontario area.
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For Big to work in Canada, he will have to have a work permit applied for, and paid for, by the homeowner. It can take upwards of 30 days to get the permit which will have to be in Big's hand as he crosses the border. In the application, the homeowner will have to document why there is no one else in Canada who can perform the work requested. The homeowner will also have to document that he/she has sought out Canadians (at least three), interviewed those others, and document the reasons why they were not qualified to do the work. Should Big then get a work permit and travel to Canada, he will need to document (make, model, serial number) the equipment he is bringing into Canada (at both the U.S. and Canadian sides) so that when he leaves Canada he won't be charged duty on the equipment in his vehicle. Canada *may* require he post a bond for the equipment which will be refunded when he exits the country and can show he is leaving with exactly the equipment he brought into Canada.

How do I know? Been there (more than once), done that.

Have fun. smile.gif

Nothing like protectionist socialist policies to stifle competition and the freedom of the homeowner to choose who he wants working in their own home without begging for a bureaucrat's approval.
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Apparently, the Canadian authorities are already aware of Big's attempt to expand his global empire.

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Nothing like protectionist socialist policies to stifle competition and the freedom of the homeowner to choose who he wants working in their own home without begging for a bureaucrat's approval.

^ A portion of the politics to which I was referring; the others being unemployment, laziness, and Immigration.
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Yep, those Imperial units give him away every time!

Border Agent: "Been a long drive from DC, eh?"
BIG: "Yeah, even at 90 miles per - uh, kilos... (long pause) Ya want my extra donut? It's a jelly."
Border Agent: (Takes donut) "Step out of the vehicle, sir."

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Apparently, the Canadian authorities are already aware of Big's attempt to expand his global empire.
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^ caused me to LOL and be the recipient of strange looks at work
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I, at one time, worked for that smallish company in Ottawa ... Bell Canada Enterprises. But since I own 40 acres of Canadian soil, I can claim a rather different status upon arrival. smile.gif

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Thanks for the suggestions, johnbr, jwagstagg, and Dennis.

SMB - was Sublime the same company you were going to mention?

SMB and Dennis are right, of course, about the complexities of a foreigner working in Canada. Embarrassing but true. I won't get in to the Politics involved but that's all that it really is - politics.

That being said, BIG can throw a couple of fishing rods in the bed of his truck and go visit friends in Ontario for a few weeks, right? Plus the personal exemption limit will allow him to return with cases of maple syrup, gravy, cheese curds, PEI potatoes....oh and a case of Labatt 50.

Yep! Sublime! Great group. They know their stuff!

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Yep, those Imperial units give him away every time!

Border Agent: "Been a long drive from DC, eh?"
BIG: "Yeah, even at 90 miles per - uh, kilos... (long pause) Ya want my extra donut? It's a jelly."
Border Agent: (Takes donut) "Step out of the vehicle, sir."

Sounds like about what happened to me the first time!! biggrin.gif

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That being said, BIG can throw a couple of fishing rods in the bed of his truck and go visit friends in Ontario for a few weeks, right?

Unfortunately With my current commitments we may need to think about throwing a leaf rake or snowmobile in the back of my truck for any more lengthy out of town trips this year.
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Nothing like protectionist socialist policies to stifle competition and the freedom of the homeowner to choose who he wants working in their own home without begging for a bureaucrat's approval.

Solution is simple, have both the US of A and Canada join the European Union. If your finances are enough in order to qualify, that is...

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For Big to work in Canada, he will have to have a work permit applied for, and paid for, by the homeowner. It can take upwards of 30 days to get the permit which will have to be in Big's hand as he crosses the border. In the application, the homeowner will have to document why there is no one else in Canada who can perform the work requested.

I'm surprised they let us import goods into Canada - because, ya know, that could be viewed as failing to give business to a Canadian company.

A friend of mine works for a multi-national company and had to travel from Canada to the US for meetings. It involved software development and he had to train the American employees how to do something.

He had been down there a few times for meetings so he thought nothing of it this time. But since he was doing more than just "meeting" it was viewed as possibly taking work away from Americans and he was turned away from the border. So apparantly even training Americans how to do a job is considered taking work away from Americans.
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Unfortunately With my current commitments we may need to think about throwing a leaf rake or snowmobile in the back of my truck for any more lengthy out of town trips this year.

Just throw the short rods in then...Lake Simcoe is renown for its ice fishing. When the USD:CAD was 0.7:1, Simcoe was a haven for US anglers.

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I, at one time, worked for that smallish company in Ottawa ... Bell Canada Enterprises. But since I own 40 acres of Canadian soil, I can claim a rather different status upon arrival. smile.gif

If you maintained any capital in BCE, you are part-owner of the beloved, albeit disappointing, Toronto Maple Leafs!

Is your land adjacent to the River, Dennis?
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