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A few of the how I did its, I got support from Erskine as he designed the space, but the ceiling was a client change mid project. I found this handy calculator to convert the width of room the height of the arc into the radius, http://www.handymath.com/cgi-bin/arc18.cgi?submit=Entry

First you need to start with some curved pieces and without any elaborate CNC machine I developed my own 22 ft swing arm saw. I used two sections of hat channel. a piece of Ikea flooring, my Bosch jig saw, The saw is attached to the flooring with double sided carpet tape.



You need to keep the work elevated for blade clearance. I put a temp platform together that had side rails to keep the sheets straight. I would cut a piece then slide the work forward 3 1/2 inches


The pivot point, it is nice to have a wood sub-floor


A few hours later.



Then I assembled two layer pieces with construction adhesive and narrow crown staples.

I stacked them up using the previous piece as my guide.



next you build some assemblies



lift into place, two guys, two ladders then position third hand supports to keep it there, screwed to the ceiling, first layer was OSB



Add a bunch of notched cross pieces. I cut the notches with my table saw and Jig saw.







Then working from the back forward, I put a MDF face on the last layer, roughly 5 is inches tall. then added a 1 1/8 inch three quarter inch strip at the bottom. Then added the bottom drywall for that step cutting flush with the two pieces on the front.

to cut one edge I cheated and used an extra curved assembly that I made. (it was also used to define the stage curve)



Last a 2 3/4 inch piece of pre-primed MDF was added to the front and everything got mudded.
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The ceiling is the secret to the sound. If you've taken Erksine class you understand why. A perfect square is not ideal for sound at all, and you can't always change the floor and make it easy to walk on. That leaves the walls or ceiling. It's not just aesthetic design why you see so many of his design builds not using perfectly flat ceilings or walls. Go back and take a look, it's an intentional design element that goes beyond looking cool.

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I found this handy calculator to convert the width of room the height of the arc into the radius, http://www.handymath.com/cgi-bin/arc18.cgi?submit=Entry
Great link. That would've come in handy when I was working on my arches. I ended up drawing everything in SketchUp and letting the Arc tool give me the dimensions.

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Really nice work Jeff!!! I love watching you work and seeing your projects. Outstanding job as usual. Posts like that above with commentary and pictures are much appreciated and make this forum awesome.

Tell me about it! I have an unfinished basement down in Richmond that is SCREAMING for some of his handiwork - if I could just get my financial house in order!
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Ditto. And I'm hiring BIG to do it. biggrin.gif

Take a number! If it wasn't for BIG's busy schedule my wallet would be a little lighter. The good thing is he has answered all my questions and my project is nearing completion with more available funding for equipment. Thanks Jeff!
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Take a number! If it wasn't for BIG's busy schedule my wallet would be a little lighter. The good thing is he has answered all my question and my project is nearing completion and I have more funding for equipment. Thanks Jeff!
No worries. If I play my cards right, I won't need to build a 3rd theater. Hoping to stay in my current home a long, long time.

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Awesome work as usual BIG. The construction of that ceiling is a thing of beauty.

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Fantastic work on the ceiling! You make it look so easy. No doubt there are many great efforts, and skills at work. Truly a pleasure watching it happen.
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Great thread. This is build is happening in my neck of the woods and I am definitely subscribed. You mentioned the ceiling was a client change mid project. Was the entire ceiling changed/added mid project or just the radii? Judging by the 1st layer of OSB i assume there was originally something intended to be hanging with multiple anchor points. If the whole tiered ceiling was added did you have to alter the spacing and layout of ceiling clips and channel to account for the additional loading or is there a large enough factor of safety already built in to the system accommodate for all of that additional weight?
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it was changed after the demo so the clip number and spacing was changed, OSB went up as a first layer to give us a continous base for screwing the frame structure for the four level stepped ceiling.

The original Erskine plan was for a two level ceiling. An oval raised portion in the middle of the room fitting between existing duct work. I thought it would make for a great skylight effect with a star-field ceiling, but the client wanted to go in the direction of other Erskine projects hence the four stepped levels.
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Jeff,

 

Any updates on this project?  It has been a couple of months and I am curious to see how it is coming along.

 

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Jeff,

Your theaters inspire me. That's the positive. Your theaters (and a few others) are going to make me spend much more than I should on an HT.

As I not so patiently wait for Shawn to do my Erskine design, I'm trying to find a few pros to help me with my theater build. I've found some. Once I have the design, I'm going to reach out to Ted for soundproofing advice and materials.

I will be comfortable doing much of the woodworking, stage building, building acoustic panels, installing lighting, building the dead vent etc. I definitely want help installing OSB/GG/Drywall, running a couple new electrical circuits, and moving existing plumbing and lengthening fire sprinklers. I'll probably also get help with the automation.

I know you don't do the heavy lifting any more, is there a drywall crew in the DC area that has done the OSB/GG/Drywall for you that you would recommend?

What would it take to have you stop by to walk my space and share some of your wisdom

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Orange is the new black COLUMNS:



JTR wall of power, Noisis 212s and two Orbit Shifters



Rich stops by with the FALCON screen, of course I got the white glove assembly service because I'm local.
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Jeff, odd question. Generally speaking, do columns serve any structural purpose in a room?

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they hold up the speakers and provide a break for fabric seams. One column hides a steel support pole allowing the theater to be 7 inches wider.
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Orange is the new black COLUMNS:



JTR wall of power, Noisis 212s and two Orbit Shifters



Rich stops by with the FALCON screen, of course I got the white glove assembly service because I'm local.
These pics do not do this room justice ...when you here it has orange columns your first thought hmmm i dunno but when you see them in person wow, hopefully when the final pics are taken everyone will see the detail in the columns and the ceiling... also thank you Jeff i now want JTR speakers!!!
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Wow, that screen is B-E-A-UTIFUL!! I'm leaning towards one of theirs for my HT, how close do you have to be to be considered "Local"? I'm in Ellicott City, MD...
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Wow, that screen is B-E-A-UTIFUL!! I'm leaning towards one of theirs for my HT, how close do you have to be to be considered "Local"? I'm in Ellicott City, MD...
PM Snickers1, what is your drive time from Manassas?
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Will do, thanks for the tip Big.

I'm 62 mi from Manassas, according to Google maps. We both know in this area that could be either 55 mins or 2 hr 55 mins, depending on day/time...

So close, that I wish I could afford YOUR design services!
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Erskine Group is my design resource and the basic layout service is affordable ($700) . If I don't have a plan I typically mimic a photo that my client likes using generally accepted soundproofing and acoustic methods to the extent possible.
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Great space! can't wait to see it finished.

May I ask the dimesions of the room and screen?

Thank you.
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I was going to say what happened to that huge space you had to work with? That was until I saw how small Rich looked compared to the screen and room.

Do the open faced columns stuffed with pink fluffy also act as bass traps? I was wondering if there would be any benefit to cutting mine wide open before covering with a speaker grill.

Another great job!
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Great space! can't wait to see it finished.

May I ask the dimesions of the room and screen?

Thank you.
the room is 16ft wide, the screen is 12 ft wide, don't remember the length off the top of my head but we will have two rows and a back sit at bar.
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I was going to say what happened to that huge space you had to work with? That was until I saw how small Rich looked compared to the screen and room.

Do the open faced columns stuffed with pink fluffy also act as bass traps? I was wondering if there would be any benefit to cutting mine wide open before covering with a speaker grill.
Probably somewhat but there are two other bass traps in the room per the Erskine Design. Front wall and riser.
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Orange is the new black COLUMNS:



JTR wall of power, Noisis 212s and two Orbit Shifters



Rich stops by with the FALCON screen, of course I got the white glove assembly service because I'm local.
Love that wall of JTR! How do the Noesis 212's sound compared to your 4pi's?

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dunno yet, gear not set up. working on the walls presently, all things in due time. I know if I set up the projector and connect the sound, the homeowner will be in there with a deck chair camped out watching movies.
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Looks great Jeff, I wish I had the talent to build that. However, I have the same speakers
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Just a little preview of what the wall color is going to look like, darker in person.

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I think I've definitely had a cubicle that color. I like the orange contrast, gives it some "pop".
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when you see these colors laid out on table you say hmm i dunno , but they work and look great looking forward to visiting the room again
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