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BACKGROUND

An upper end NoVA home is foreclosed by the bank and bought by a new family. It has a theater room, it looks great but there are a few significant problems. The home suffered many damages as the original builder owner declared bankruptcy, Between the owner who may have stripped items for another home, the subs who weren't paid and may have resorted to self help, vandals and water damage apparently the home was in sad shape. The bank put some lipstick on the pig and found a couple willing take on completing what will be a magnificent home. I was told the water damage was severe in the theater room so the drywall and trim might be the banks doing.

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THE PLAN

Rough measurements for Dennis to do his thing: the room is 26 x 34 1/2 feet, No provision for equipment other than a bunch of cables coming out the wall in the corner by the window.




Concept sketch from Dennis

Grand step up entrance, Projecor/equipment room with portal glass separation.

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DEMO

The double layer 3/4 T&G OSB riser was nailed, glued and screwed. It wasn't going to come apart, So I sawed it into 16 inch wide pieces and pried each section up. Decking still attached to the top plates of the riser framing.




Free Riser, some assembly required, you haul


Haven't started the drywall but guess what, it's all going and here is the reason why:




Yes double layers on RC2 channel, triple leaf system. What this means is first you strip the outer layer then unscrew the channel then pull the first layer, nothing is going to go easy on this one. There will be action shots next week, including a shot of the dumpster that is 100 yards from the basement door.
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Wow, looks like you will have your hands full for a long time... should I start pouting now or skip the pouting and start crying???
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Are you solo or did you get help?
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And this is why I will never trust anyone to have done it the right way.
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Demo should get your aggression out. Probably good exercise having the dumpster 100 yards away rolleyes.gif What's up with that ?

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Wow, looks like you will have your hands full for a long time... should I start pouting now or skip the pouting and start crying???

Don't worry your project is still my #1 priority, I thought I would tackle the demo here during my time out on your job!
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Probably good exercise having the dumpster 100 yards away rolleyes.gif What's up with that ?
After months of working on the house the owners are planning on moving in within the week. They didn't want the dumpster sitting in front of their nice hew home so there was an adjacent road and a break in their fence out back so that is where it will sit, Don't worry about me getting all that exercise I plan on sharing it with some guest workers. In reality the distance from the basement door to the front driveway isn't that much closer. Also the current location is downhill all the way!
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Don't worry your project is still my #1 priority, I thought I would tackle the demo here during my time out on your job!

Not worried at all, just thought I'd tease ya...
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Looks like a really nice, large space. Also the entrance can be something special. I'd love to have room for something like that with a big marquee and columns outside the theater.

The MacBeth Theater (flood resilient build)
 

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And this is why I will never trust anyone to have done it the right way.

On that pic : Just... wow...

The room had some excellent trim work. Nice ceiling curves too! To be honest, my wife sold a family a home with a similar scenario, it WAS a 1+ mil home, foreclosed on, and they moved in. The theater looked VERY similar to that one layout wise (a few feet smaller each dimension, without all of the trim). Really big wide room, double doors on each side of the riser, big white columns in the middle.... and... nothing else. No places for wiring, etc. But they didn't care, they just purchased a cheap projector from bestbuy and a small fixed screen (Like 80") and were ecstatic! (Of course I know this because my wife asked me to go mount them both as a favor. )

You on the otherhand... well you have your work cut out for you! That is a huge space! What kind of budget are they looking at? Are they going the full 9 on that space?
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I can see why you're busy until Fall/Winter.

Really looking forward to following the thread.
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THE PLAN

Rough measurements for Dennis to do his thing: the room is 26 x 34 1/2 feet, No provision for equipment other than a bunch of cables coming out the wall in the corner by the window.




Concept sketch from Dennis

Grand step up entrance, Projecor/equipment room with portal glass separation.


I will be following along close. I want to see the process and results with those dimensions. My dimensions are very similar.

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I can see why you're busy until Fall/Winter.

Really looking forward to following the thread.

I waited 8 months and it was worth every minute.
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A new chapter of the Parkinson Build!! I'm really looking forward to this one as it seems very interesting, the story, the house, the room, the design.

p.s. man, I guess it will be harder and harder to grab you over here with all the HT lining up pretty much for the rest of the year now. tongue.gif
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If it was drywall screwed to ceiling joist the quickest way this contractor once told me to get it all down without doing it the slow way by using a hammer is to get a 8 foot piece of 2x4 and stick it up into the hole and pull down and have fun along the way and sure enough he was right.
We were taking down a old ceiling in a 80 year old house with the old 1/4 x 1 little planks nailed to the ceiling joist and plastered over.
Yes it was fun.
My brother and I also used this method on vertical walls and it worked fine.
It sure beats using a hammer and doing it the slow way.
Looks like you might have to use a sawzaw on that one.
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Update, The Honduran/Ecuadorian demo team is on the job, and we made good progress, should rap up tomorrow. I'm exhausted.

Meet Adrian, the leader of the group and a keeper, also does drywall



Attacking the wall





meet the adjacent shower, Oh joy


not 100% sure what I'm looking at here, I really need to understand why I have massive lumber in the wall and Why there is a big gap in the floor, I will get my flashlight and figure this out. I have a bad feeling that the adjacent bathroom, and the plumbing may be involved, but if that was a trench for the plumbing why wasn't it filled in? Ponderous.



Luckily there are no obstacles between the basement and the dumpster. I might have mentioned something about a 100 yards.



Ok so we thought the ceiling was two layers. Well it mostly is except where they did a plumbing redo. LOL


Neat the end of day one.

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It's a wonder that house passed local codes.
Why the 100 yards to dumpster ?
It seems that the theater room was a after thought for the builder.
Did you find the source of your water leaks ?
Are you going to use fiberglass backed sheetrock in that to keep down the mold ?
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I love the rip in the DW where they did the plumbing redo. Did you just find it with the rip like that ???

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Overall the house is very well built with quality materials. I haven't really found any code violations. The hole in the floor is an unsolved mystery.
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Is the plan to paint the white in the theater a darker color ?

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I have to say it looks MUCH better stripped down. Those solid verticals in the walls are interesting...like you, something I've never seen before.
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Is the plan to paint the white in the theater a darker color ?

All the white is in the dumpster now! biggrin.gif
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What white?

Nice move. I guess I was asking about new color scheme

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Looks like a cool project. Funny how a lot of people would see that theater (in post one) and say "great, it's finished!". That RC2 channel looks significantly thinner (shallower?) than the hat channel I am using. It looks like you have Drywall with some thin 1/2" channel screwed into the drywall (hopefull the studs) and then more drywall screwed into that, probably through the channel and into the other drywall and studs. Wonder why they even bothered with the channel?

AFA the lumber in your wall, could they be load-bearing somehow?
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Those solid verticals might be there to ensure the foot plate doesn't sag over time. Or they might exist to create a chase from the trench, to the second floor, plus provide
an easy surface to attach to.

A Harbor Freight inspection camera (along with the 20-25% off coupons in magazines and sent in Harbor Freight printable subscriber emails), might be an affordable
purchase to get to the root of why this was done this way.
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In one of the basements I worked, I saw timbers like that put in place to support this massive antique floating mirrored cabinet thingy. The homeowner had it shipped over from Europe and it had to be almost 300#.

No idea on the gap in the concrete. Is it just in that one spot or does it go all the way around the room?

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The hole in the floor is an unsolved mystery.

SOLVED- got out my flashlight and took some time looking at the relationship of the theater space to the adjoining rooms. That trench is just the outer edge of a lowered floor for the elevator shaft. A first for me for sure.
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