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post #1 of 40 Old 08-20-2013, 07:04 AM - Thread Starter
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Well after years of reading about building a dedicated HT/Music room I am finally almost there!!!!! We bought a new house a couple months ago and it has a nearly unfinished basement with 9ft walls. The basement sits below grade except at the far end, which is open.

The dimensions are roughly 16x66 or so. Obviously will be making that long room into a HT room then a bar entertainment area on the remaining side, along with a brewery on the other side of the basement.

so 16x 22 or so sounds about right?

So far i haven't done any building, still in the pre pre planning stages smile.gif

I will follow the pattern of the rest of the house, box ceilings , for the theater/bar area.

I am still debating whether or not to build the speakers, I have a pair of Salk ST's that I use upstairs which I really love, but have been wanting to build the Statements so I may go that route or another?? Stens? SEOS?

will build an 7.1 set up. once I figure out how to use sketchup I will try and draw up whats in my head. Budget is not fixed but not unlimited either.

I will be doing as much of it myself as possible. using the standard method of GG/Two layers of DW. and Clips.

Will try and update in a few days if i figure out how to use sketchup!!

here are a couple pics...


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Sounds like it is going to be a great project.  I will definitely be watching this one.  Make sure to document everything including the brewery biggrin.gif.

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Well since your one of the ones I am stealing most of my ideas from I guess thats ok smile.gif
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Most of my ideas came from right here on AVS, so don't feel bad.smile.gif

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After finally getting everything sort of settled down I finally got to start brewing again. two weeks ago I brewed an AG IPA Dead Ringer Clone, added some pellets to it last night and sampled it... damn good!! I finally got a free fridge to use as a ferm chamber.. works great!
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What a great space to work with. I can't wait to see how the brewery turns out. I think the name works really well especially since there is a brewery involved.

The Statements look like very nice speakers. It would be a good idea to get the exact dimensions and layout of your room done first before doing the speaker thing. After you know where your seats will be and the distances and angles and all that you can choose a speaker that fits your needs. Depending on your distance from the speaker I would be careful counting on that ribbon tweeter to deliver uncompressed 105 db peaks but I am sure it sounds fantastic when not over driven.

Should be fun to watch the space transform and see the beer start flowing!
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Thanks, i am anxious to see how it turns out myself!!

I haven't made any determinations on speakers, other then the Song towers which I already have and had originally planned on using.
I had planned to put them on the stage since they look fantastic... the surrounds can be on/in wall.

I will probably get the brewery done first cause it will be easier and cheaper. I just have to set up a 50 panel over there and I can start framing in and dry walling. the Theater next then the bar area last probably... there is already a nice little corner cut in for the brewery area and will put a beam up and open up that long wall past the theater about 15ft or so for the bar area.

I guess it would make sense to start with the screen against the far concrete wall. That pipe comes down about 28ft from there so i shouldnt have to go back that far.

I plan to put the gear over in that area as well, behind the screen or a small closet to hold it.

I have a Pioneer SC35 which I will probably use. I may get a sep amp like emotiva but for now i have no probs driving my current setup.
looking at an Epson 8530 proj.

I am amazed at some of the sketchup drawings here... I just started and cant figure out how you guys do it... smile.gif
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Ok after a year hiatus I am back to the planning stages again yay...
While I was looking around and planning out things, is there any reason that the left wall, concrete, of the theater HAS to be tied to the ceiling above? its not a load bearing wall. I was planning to tie that to the concrete wall on the left and front of the theater.
My height is 102 floor to ceiling. that drain pipe comes down 26 feet from the wall so it wont be in the theater. There will be a bar area there.

Was planning to have a stage as well. Which would be the best place for the eq room? I was thinking behind the stage area, but would the back be better?
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Ok after a year hiatus I am back to the planning stages again yay...
While I was looking around and planning out things, is there any reason that the left wall, concrete, of the theater HAS to be tied to the ceiling above? its not a load bearing wall. I was planning to tie that to the concrete wall on the left and front of the theater.
My height is 102 floor to ceiling. that drain pipe comes down 26 feet from the wall so it wont be in the theater. There will be a bar area there.

Was planning to have a stage as well. Which would be the best place for the eq room? I was thinking behind the stage area, but would the back be better?
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Thanks, Sketchup was difficult for me to get the way I wanted it. I will try playing with it some more. Now I am just laying out basic framing etc... there are a few builds I follow that I will be stealing from though

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Thanks, Sketchup was difficult for me to get the way I wanted it. I will try playing with it some more. Now I am just laying out basic framing etc... there are a few builds I follow that I will be stealing from though
I'm in the process of hacking my way through SketchUp now...if you need help, just let me know. I'm always tinkering on my design late nights after the fam goes to sleep. The best advice I can give, is to start with as accurate measurements as possible...a little 1/8" here and there, and before you know it, you're connecting angled lines and things don't line up right. I bounce between figuring things out by trial and error, then going to videos on YouTube.
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Back from the dead
I am finally getting started on my basement. I will start on the brewery first because I need to have that space for important stuff... like beer

I have begun to put up 1 inch XPS along all the perimeter walls. Not sure about the subfloor yet. Dri core way too pricey, so looking at Platon? how ever it seems the ONLY place I can find this stuff is Menards, the nearest of which is in Kentucky!! Delta FL seems to be a similar product. but again hard to find.

I am trying to start a Sketchup Model... not having much luck. I consider myself at least above average in software but this thing is killing me!! Will try to get a basic drawing up whenever I can manage it.
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You need a couple hours steady for a few nights to get proficient on the Sketchup. Mostly " push and pull" walls/ risers /stage etc. Then drag your models in from the Sketchup warehouse. Don't get discouraged! I watched the tutorials and dug my heels in. ( i'm still not ready to start a thread yet) Hand drawn pencil sketches are good here...even a dirty finger nail on a napkin. Lets get cookin' Wolf. Looks like another rockin' room for AVS.
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Yes Sketchup can be frustrating, but once you get it figured its very useful
One thing that I found helps with the frustration factor is making an object into a unique component.
If not unique then if you copy it and edit they all change, this can also be useful in certain situations


For example if you draw a wall than make into a component, it is a lot easier to move the wall component without messing up the lines that may be attached to it if it wasn't a component.
There are video tutorials out there that will explain this better
I'm by no means an expert and this might not be the best way but this has helped me with my design


Oh and don't be afraid to use lots of layers

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I have watched a few videos. One of them the guy is doing a floorplan and he types in the dimensions and boom! But when i tried it it didn't work that way for me. I notice too his tool bar is vertical in the upper left...mine rins across the top...

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getting the insulation in place... and some general pics of the disaster, I mean , construction area...

First pic is the future Brewery Area...

Second Pic is where the HT will be and the bar

3rd is looking the other way... 65ft wall.

4th is the other side
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Wolf... Have you decided on your subfloor yet? That's a lot of floor to cover lol.
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That's a great space to work with it looks like you really don't have any thing in the middle to move or frame around. Have you thought of what subs you wanted to put in the room? You said 7.1 system but maybe 2 18's or so. This will be a great thread to watch!
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Platon or Delta FL whichever is cheaper....zero water issues w tons of rain last two years...w 5/8 TG
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That's a great space to work with it looks like you really don't have any thing in the middle to move or frame around. Have you thought of what subs you wanted to put in the room? You said 7.1 system but maybe 2 18's or so. This will be a great thread to watch!
Haven't thought quite that far ahead. But I have a blank canvas so to speak...
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I have a basic floorplan in Sketchup, but it wont let me upload it? what do i have to do ?

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I use the snipping tool in windows 7 found under accessories to create an image file.
If you are wanting to actually attach the file (**.skp) you will need to zip first

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Well since your one of the ones I am stealing most of my ideas from I guess thats ok
There is no such thing as stealing on AVS. This place is like 1 enormous 'bowl of ideas', being served up family style. MMMM, smells sooooo good! Dig in!
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I use the snipping tool in windows 7 found under accessories to create an image file.
If you are wanting to actually attach the file (**.skp) you will need to zip first
Accessories?? I have win 7 but dont see that...
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click on the start button, then 'all programs', then the accessories folder
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ok next question, how do you add chairs and stuff? I can draw boxes.. but I dont see anything like that in the tool list..
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still figuring this stuff out....
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ok next question, how do you add chairs and stuff? I can draw boxes.. but I dont see anything like that in the tool list..
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Really suggest going through a couple of the tutorials found here: http://www.sketchup.com/learn/videos/58

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