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The Super 8 clip is my goto surround sound theater demo. People love it.
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My favorite of the favorites is Finding Nemo. Great surround, great bass, great animation. "Mine!"

That said, I recently had someone over to buy a subwoofer. I played Dolby Spheres, and his wife literally turned around in her seat.
Priceless!

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The difference in volume might be that the Super 8 clip audio is DOLBY TruHD while the other ones are DTS-HD. Most Receivers have a way to adjust for this through their setup menu.

There was no adjustment or anything else done to the audio or video on these clips. They are the exact copy from the original, other than cut as clips for size.
Nah, not to do with Dolby True HD cause there are other clips on the disc also in Dolby True-HD.
I think it is because that Super 8 clip is so heavy on all the channels (also the surrounds!) that it comes of louder as the other clips.
@LastButNotLeast : I changed the volume of the sub from -9 to -5.5 dB. That sounds better to me.
I also have to mention that the clips on this demo disc have more heavy bass (for example : War of the worlds, Flight of the Phoenix, DTS Demo) when compared to the "Reference 2 Bass". Note that the only clip I did not play so far on Ref. 2 Bass is the "Pulse" clip My subwoofer is only a week old, I want to give it some time to settle

I also had some choppy play when playing this demo disc and the Ref. 2 Bass demo disc. Never happened to me on my Oppo-103. Strange thing.

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Keep in mind that "lots" of bass isn't the same as "deep" bass.
If your system isn't calibrated, your sub probably has a peak around 40Hz, which gives most people the "wow" factor. If your system is calibrated to flat, the sound is very different.
I used to get "big" sound on the Jericho track with the music when the rocket launchers were turning. Impressive, but not "right." EQ'd, the music is even across the spectrum, and the big "boom" is saved for the landing of the rocket, as you would expect.
See some of the illustrations here:
The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts
I keep bringing this up, but I think it's important, re: Pulse:
The "thump, thump, thump" is cool, but if you can't hear her heavy breathing, feet dragging on the floor, and the rustle of paper as she turns the corner, your bass is drowning out the more important effects of the scene. And of anything else you may listen to. Which is why measurement and EQ are so important.
Choppy play is usually a mismatch between player and brand of disc. I use an HTPC, so I'm afraid I can't offer any specific advice. You may want to look on a thread dedicated to your player; I'm sure people there would have recommendations.
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Keep in mind that "lots" of bass isn't the same as "deep" bass.
If your system isn't calibrated, your sub probably has a peak around 40Hz, which gives most people the "wow" factor. If your system is calibrated to flat, the sound is very different.
I used to get "big" sound on the Jericho track with the music when the rocket launchers were turning. Impressive, but not "right." EQ'd, the music is even across the spectrum, and the big "boom" is saved for the landing of the rocket, as you would expect.
See some of the illustrations here:
The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts
I keep bringing this up, but I think it's important, re: Pulse:
The "thump, thump, thump" is cool, but if you can't hear her heavy breathing, feet dragging on the floor, and the rustle of paper as she turns the corner, your bass is drowning out the more important effects of the scene. And of anything else you may listen to. Which is why measurement and EQ are so important.
Choppy play is usually a mismatch between player and brand of disc. I use an HTPC, so I'm afraid I can't offer any specific advice. You may want to look on a thread dedicated to your player; I'm sure people there would have recommendations.
Enjoy!
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Yesterday I could not resist to check the Pulse scene out
Seems my recent increase of +3dB was a little to much. Hear breathing and rustle of paper was still audible, but a couple of her footsteps (specially in the beginning when she opens the door) were not audible. So I changed the increase to +1,5 dB which sounded better. It is now at -7,5 dB instead of -6 dB.
Or is it wrong to take this scene as a reference to check the volume?
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Or is it wrong to take this scene as a reference to check the volume?
Sort of.
There is no real "reference" (okay, technically, besides THX, et al), though, by making that change, you have probably improved your over-all listening experience, which is all that matters. If you have a way to EQ, a boost at 20Hz (or 15, or 10 ) would restore the "pulsing" without stepping on (pun intended) the higher frequencies, but you're heading in the right direction with what you have done.
Which is why I love that scene, just for reasons different from almost everyone else.
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No idea if I can EQ.... I guess not with my current setup (see sig) ?
I know the options in my AVR pretty well, I have not seen much about EQ.
If someone can tell otherwise I am happy to hear it

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It looks like you have Audyssey MultEQ, which is nice, but doesn't do subs.
See page 28 of your manual:
http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pa...oductId=SR5004
You would need (and might be interested in getting, if you want to start a whole new hobby ) this to EQ:
http://www.musicgoroundtroy.com/p/22...inger-dsp1124p
available used periodically (no longer manufactured, but perfect for this use) or something similar,
and learn to use REW:
Simplified REW Setup and Use (USB Mic & HDMI Connection) Including Measurement Techniques and How To Interpret Graphs
Or you might just want to enjoy what you have for now.

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Thanks for the suggestion Michael!
My T-9 sub only goes 28 Hz @ -6 dB, so I doubt it would be useful to give a boost at 20 Hz or lower
Good advice though, but I think I will enjoy what I have now (for now )

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Is there another working torrent file? I tried downloading the one on the first page but when it tries to open in uTorrent an error occurs. I already have the Reference files and just downloaded the Reference 2 files, so need to watch those soon. Then I saw this thread so I definitely want to get my hands on these files as well.

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You did unzip the file first, right?
I just tried it and found, much to my very pleasant surprise, eight seeders at the moment.
Thanks, everyone!
Try again, and let us know if you still have a problem. If you do, let us know what you're using.
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You did unzip the file first, right?
I just tried it and found, much to my very pleasant surprise, eight seeders at the moment.
Thanks, everyone!
Try again, and let us know if you still have a problem. If you do, let us know what you're using.
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Thanks LastButNotLeast! I was too quick and didn't read the instructions. I assumed it followed similar steps as the other reference demo files, which were to download the file, remove the .zip extension from the file name and then to open in uTorrent.

DOH!

It works now. Many thanks on Thanksgiving!

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Burned this disc & tested in the Oppo 103d and it works great. Thanks!

Not so good for the other discs (Reference 1 & 2). Just tried burning Bass and Vision from the Reference 2 set and they show as data-discs instead of video. Same behaviour in the PS3.

Used the same DVD-DL disc for both and the same ImgBurn settings. Discs verify OK and did a re-check on the torrent files to verify they were OK too.

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What do the files on those other discs look like?
They should have the same folders and layout of this disc (and any other BD, for that matter).
I tried to keep mine simple for exactly that reason. The other discs need to be uncompressed to create the BDMV folder.
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What do the files on those other discs look like?
They should have the same folders and layout of this disc (and any other BD, for that matter).
Yes, exactly. The disc shows as a data disc with two folders (BDMV and CERTIFICATE) just like the Best Of disc.

I think the Reference 1 Bass disc was missing the CERT folder. I've burned four discs so far that don't work. The only success is the Best Of disc.
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Can you burn this to a DVD?

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Can you burn this to a DVD?
Yes, just like the title says. DVD-DL
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I've burned four discs so far that don't work. The only success is the Best Of disc.
That sucks.
Though I'm happy you had success with mine , it would be nice to figure out what's wrong with the others.
All burned as UDF 2.5, I presume. No other folders or data on the disc? BDMV in the root directory, not in a folder? Many players don't care about a missing CERT folder (it's empty, anyway), but having one is a good idea - ImgBurn should ask you if you want to create one if you just drag a BDMV folder onto it, which is a good way to make sure it knows you're making a BD file structure disc.
I hate to see you make any more coasters, but I can't think of why you're still seeing them as data discs.

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All burned as UDF 2.5, I presume.
Yes.

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Many players don't care about a missing CERT folder (it's empty, anyway), but having one is a good idea - ImgBurn should ask you if you want to create one if you just drag a BDMV folder onto it, which is a good way to make sure it knows you're making a BD file structure disc.
I've never tried that but it might be worth a go. I also have a different type of DL disc to try but I doubt that'll help. Still worth a try I think.

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Unfortunately, these discs aren't available as rewritables, which is what I regularly recommend for people burning BDs.
Since the discs are burning, and readable, I don't think a different brand will help.
I'm stumped.

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