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Hello Everyone.

 

I would like to bounce some ideas as I would like to own dedicated home theatre in my basement. Problem is I live in Luxembourg central Europe, and fact is, people do not have home theaters in their houses, most likely I will be the first one in my town. We all have limited space and I would like to know if my small room would fit any setups. 

 

Could you check the floor plan, and let me know if you would recommend LED beamer or large TV? I was thinking to purchase Sonos soundbar + 2 Sonos wifi speakers.

Where do you think I should fit the screen and TV? Thank you in advance

Green is Home theatre, Yellow would be minibar, and entrance

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No time for a long post. In general you would want to start with getting the speaker placement in relation to the seating position correct. You can look at the Dolby digital diagrams and make sure you have the proper angles. After that you can look at what size screen will give you the desired viewing angle.

A sound bar won't get many recommendations.

The room is large enough for a dedicated space. There are several configurations you could go with. I would play around with the Dolby or THX layout and see what you come up with.
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Think of this room as a ship. Mount the acoustically transparent sceen across the bow. Use the bump out for your speakers.
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That is also the layout I was thinking about. You could even put the speakers in front of the plane of the screen if it was necessary to maintain the angles and only have the center behind an AT screen. Then a large sub could go in the bow of the ship.
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thank you guys for your replies. Today I put ideas into a program, to see what will suit best. 

 

There are 2 possibilities. Both would have almost same viewing distance cca 4meters, cca 13.1 ft As this country doesn't have proper shops, dedicated to audio, I will shop in Saturn.de or Mediamarkt.de, for some reason Germans have a better prices.

 

have a look what I just made.

 

 

the problem here might be the window, what do you think?

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I board up windows all the time. Or you could build a removable plug. Screen looks too small for movie watching.
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I just played with the layout, the size would be 244cm x 137 cm 96x53in.  On the website they have only this one http://www.saturn.de/mcs/product/DELUXX-Deluxx-Prof.-Motor-Inceel-244x137,48352,475055,611562.html?langId=-3

 

I did not have time to do research on something bigger, I followed the HDTV calculator app, to give me screen size optimal to viewing distance. 

 

About the window, I might need the window in summer, to air the room, I can not predict how hot it will get in there. We have a bit of different style of building, most of the basements are concrete and cold and walls are set. There is no way we could get building permit to make rooms bigger. I posted pictures, sorry to show you all the mess we have in there, but it is cosmetic, I must dump all the stuff. We have a low ceiling cca 2.16 m 7 feet high. We have two different pipe system, white is heating, black is a photovoltaic. It really bother me, so I will need to hide it somehow. I wish I could hire contractor with American experience. 

 

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If you watch a lot of 2.35:1 format content a 96inch wide screen is best viewed at 1.1 to 1.2 times screen width. Or 8.8 to 9.6 ft. You may want to get your projector, hang a sheet, and experiment with screen sizes before ordering yours.
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An acoustically transparent screen and front wall. A side panel could be hinged, for access to the window.

You could build straight soffits simply, if steel studs are available, like Bigmouth.

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The framing could be covered with plywood or MDF and covered with fabric.
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Thank you for the info. I updated the design, I think I get it. The viewing distance would be around 8 ft. cca 2-3 meters that is just a matter of arranging the sofa.

 

 

 You have send me photos, of the aircon solution. I could do that, and make a sort of box filled with spot lights, cables and aircon pipe.

Could you share with me, what would be the solution for my basement? to get fresh air in? Have you got some pictures how is it integrated? 

 

Thanks in advance.

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96inch screen would fit, Max screen size could be 143inch. The home cinema app recommends, 90 inch with THX 8.11 distance.

 

Now I'm going to read entire forum, which beamer should I order! Any recommendation that would fit my tiny room and sound system? Where do you shop? Circuitcity? 

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Pick a seat, Most guys are happy with a 45 degree field of view for the at the theater immersion experience. I sit at 1.1 screen width.
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Over here we buy projectors from a number of on-line vendors/dealers at a discount rather than a storefront at full retail price. Most of my recent clients have purchased their units from Mike Garret at AVS. As for where you can go to see them demonstrated. Well that is going to be a problem for you and you will need to do some research locally.

This is a good place to do some reading:

http://www.projectorreviews.com/

You may want to hit the AVforums.com which is European based for referrals.
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thanks for the info. Today I went to sample wallpapers and paint. I find some good stuff. have a look, if you are interested. http://www.rasch-tapeten.de/en/startseite/

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Hello guys!

I managed to get thanks to you idea want I want!

I'm going to get philips elevation led tv! Ambi light will make my room look amazing!

I also know which Av receiver I want! Yamaha rx-v775 or Rx-v675 as they have airplay posibility!

Today I would like to ask! Which speakers should I get with it??

Yamaha sells NS-160, NS-777 or NS-F700

So I was thinking to buy! For my room 4x floor standing 1x center, and will start with 1 subwoofer with option to buy 2nd one!

Will I get better sound than Bose Dolby surround?
Is 4 standing speakers overkill?
Thanks for your help
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