The ceiling is not being held down by anything, and I have thought about it. This is going to be a bit of an experiment. I am assuming it may be fine seeing the weight of the product. I really wanted something that I could remove and still access the ceiling in the future. It's very thick and heavy I will be surprised if it moves. But in saying that there always is a possibility you hit the one frequency and it could move or raddle it.
I will hook my sub up to it this weekend and dail it up to see what happens.
If vibration is a problem it might be enough just to lay down a strip of fabric (felt) where the plank ends contact the supports.
Things buzz and rattle in my room and all I have is a crummy little ported 10". I don't know how these guys do it with multiple 18's hitting 120db below 20hz.
Good luck with your experiment. Might be a non-issue as you say.
Thanks for the kind words IRadiate and thanks for stopping by. Its funny that you said you just came across my thread, because I just came across yours yesterday at work as well. I will keep a close eye on your project as you bring it together.
I still have a pretty long way to go, I need to figure out hanging my screen, bottom of the bar, room acoustics and the operation of my projector lift. Looks like I will be busy this weekend as well!
Whats your location in Ontario? I am in Simcoe (down by lake Erie not Simcoe county north of TO).
Hi Clay, I know exactly where you are, Simcoe is only an hour away. I'm in Dorchester just outside London. Go figure.
Maybe a road trip is in order when they're both finished :-)
not alot of time spend on my basement this weekend but managed to grab some insulation for my room. Just trying to lay it out now. Started behind my screen.
Pictures are a little grainy, sorry about that they are taken on my iphone in lower lighting conditions.
ran out of material that I covered them with. I have been back to buy more material but haven't had time to finish the bottom yet.
So I finished up putting black fabric over the insulation behind my AT screen. I don't have a picture of that but will try to get one up some time or another.
I then decided to look into acoustic wall. This is something when I first started my project I didn't really think of. But after I started my project and finding this web site I soon realized this was a major factor I should of looked into. I wanted to make sure that what ever I do I make it still look appealing, I think we can say some acoustic wall treatment doesn't look great at times. With this in mind I find myself looking into the printed material. I might end up doing some of the panels with art. Others will be plain and black. I haven't decided what I am going to do for sure but wanted to make a couple quick panels to see what how my idea looked in the room.
I am planning on doing a combo of absorption and reflection treatments.
This is how I started, Its a little backwards but my Oak I bought was only in 6 foot in length so I started with that.
I first step I didn't take pictures of. I bought the oak in 4.25inch wide pieces. I cut them in half to start. Then to the miter saw to start cutting the frame lengths
Glue and nails on all four corners
After glue and nails I stained them all the same colour as the rest of the oak in the room.
The inside frame was made with poplar. It wasn't as wide as the oak but I didn't see a need for it to be, Its just there to pull the fabric around and staple.
Glued and nailed as well.
Stretched some fabric. This isn't the fabric I will be using in the end but just wanted to test what a black panel would look like.
This pic is a little blurry.
sorry this picture is really blurry. Just wanted to show how I stapled the sides.
So I made two mock ups of what I might used. I am still testing some Ideas out right now.
This is a close up of the red colour fabric. Its not totally red it has a fleck of black lines patter in it.
I am toying with the Idea of some of the panels being side light with LEDs behind the frame. I was thinking if out of 16 panels I lite up 8 it might look good.
Let me know what any of you think about edge lighting the wall treatment. I would like to hear from you if it looks good or I should just pass on it.
That is all I have done for now I will keep on posting when progress is made.
Even though I have not wrapped every acoustic panel I have made, I decide to get them hanging on the walls so they will be quicker to finish once my material comes in.
Some pics of my home made reflectors.
Some pics of the over all room in its current state.
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Mfusick, and doublewing11 thanks for the posts and comments, good to see some one is reading and possibly enjoying the updates I put on here.
Maklar- To be totally honest with you I am very new at the hole acoustic room treatment thing. I have not had any time to take any measurements. The only knowledge I have is from reading a bit on the Internet, this forum and listening to the home theater geeks room acoustic treatment shows they have broadcasted.I do believe what I have done has helped my rooms acoustic properties so far. Before the echos in the room were pretty bad, after putting up this treatment it is MUCH better. I still have a little bit of an echo but no were near what I had before. I think after my carpet goes down it will help that out. I chose to do some deflectors and absorbers, I wanted to to two more panels of deflectors but ended up not having enough supplies to make them. I plan on measuring it all after the room is put together, I just need to buy a mic and some software for my laptop. As for the wood frames I was hoping they would help acted as reflection points as well, I could be wrong but in the end some room acoustics is probably better then none at all.
As for the LED lights behind some of the acoustic panels, I think I will be holding off on that. That is alot more work than I expected if I was go do that. Not saying it won't ever be done, just going to get the room running before I dive into that.
This weekend I started to work on some of the cleaning up of wires to all my audio/video parts. I also started to wire up the electronics to power my electronic lift for the projector. The lift will be controlled by my automation system.
I also was able to pick up a Buttkicker LFE for a very reasonable price. I hooked that up and tested it. I did enjoy listening to music with the buttkicker on. My wife seems to think I should be putting it on all the chairs which surprised me she enjoyed it that much. I plan on having the buttkicker controlled with my automation system as well. That way I am able to turn it on or off depending on the mood I am in.
This weekend I ended up picking my carpet and furniture. Hope it all comes together well, it very hard to choose the carpet and colours of furniture.
This is the carpet I ended up going with, I looked at some with patterns and ended up just going with a plain dark colour.
I bought two of these chairs to go on the lower platform where the two black chairs are sitting in the pictures above. They are Palliser Banff Seats
And I ended up picking out a two seated love seat with a console to go in front of the Bar. I wasn't able to get this in black (I didn't want it to be leather) so I went completely opposite with off white, the material feels great. The made is La-Z-Boy and the model is Greyson.
This is a pic of the material
So now it time to wait on the furniture and carpet, but I do have a couple things left to do before they get put in. I am also waiting some printed material for some of my acoustic treatment panels.
I drew this up by memory so I will double check it later at home to make sure this diagram is right. Let me know if anyone has any questions I will do my best to answer anything I can.
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Not the most exciting part of the build to report on (I don't have any picture to share), but in my time waiting for my carpet and furniture I have been working on wiring up the Lift, Speakers, and touch pad that will live in the bar behind the couch. I also have been working on lighting. I installed two more pot lights in my soffit above my screen so they shoot down on the screen. I have done the final wiring job for the LED lights and have them controlled by my control4 system. I also have been working on lighting scenes and how these will be activated. I installed a door contact on the theater door, so as soon as you open the door (if the projector is off and lights are off) my control4 knows enough to activate a lighting scene of my choice. I also have lighting scene for when I turn on the projector (turning off the wall sconces, screen pot lights, and lower pot lights). I also have a lighting scene for when I shut the projector off it will turn the lights back on automatically.
I did work on the bar a little bit, putting some tile on the top and grouting it. I also started making the botton of it. I may the front a acoustice transparent screen and filled it with the instaltion for one more absorber in the room. I don't know how much this will help as the couch sits in front of it.
My test peices of the fabric I had printed for the acoustic treatment should be in any day now. I hope they turned out I ened up having the art stretched out quite a bit.
I will keep posting updates and maybe take some pics of the bar and post them soon.
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for chiming in OJ Bartley. Nice to see some locals in my thread. I am south of you by lake Erie.
Maklar, I use the Dewalt 12" compound miter saw. http://www.dewalt.com/tools/machinery-miter-saws-dw718.aspx Its been fantastic, I couldn't be happier with my purchase of it. If you watch your local big box stores these bad boys go on sale with the stands for a very reasonable price a couple times a year. I know up here in Canada our big box store Home Depot they go on sale for around the $500-$550 range. Its worth every penny I paid for it. As I see it as long as you take care of your tools they will pretty well last a life time. You can also get a laser cutting guide but I don't have that for mine.
Just for reference sake I also use the Rigid portable table saw to any long cuts on the veneered plywood. https://www.ridgid.com/ca/en/10-inch-portable-table-saw I have been very happy with this table saw as well.
Last night I ended up getting my two test screens prints in for my acoustic wall treatments. I did the two photos that had the worst resolution. They ended up turning out ok, not the deep and rich colour that I was hoping for but they were stretch out 6x the regular photos resolution. I guess you can't expect much when doing that. Here is a sample of what they turned out like.
Please chime in and let me know of you think they are passable. If most people think they look fine I think I will go ahead and print the rest of them.
I only had time to frame one; hopefully tonight I might get time to do the second test sample.
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And yeah, uploading photos takes real effort now. Makes you appreciate what we had before.
I am going with a super hero and villain theme on them. Down one wall will be heroes and the other there nemesis (eg Spider man-venom,Thor-Loki, Batman-joker and a couple extras). Like everything else I am waitingo n prints to come in (and carpet, and furniture).
Your build came together really well. Love those seats! The lights look great as well. Have you been watching much yet? Did theyCalibrate your projector, and speakers? Or is that something you will be tryingto undergo?
I had some time to search kijiji for some bar stools. I was able to pick up these bad boys for a VERY reasonable price! I pick them up because of the blackwood would match some of my other furniture and the off white seat will match my couch. There pretty easy to sit on and they have an auto return swivel on them.
I also had got all my custom material printed for my acoustic panels and was able to stretch and frame them all. I am pretty happy with how they turned out. I know some people aren't into the art on the walls but I do like it in my room, it looks better than having all of the acoustic treatments black. I did my best to get art that didn't have any writing on them; I thought it may be more art like. A BIG thanks goes out to nickbuol for helping me out with the image art!
As usual these are taken on my cell phone, I will get some better pictures once the project is done. My carpet is coming tomorrow so I will get some more pics up for any one interested in seeing that.
Last edited by ClayliketheDIRT; 07-10-2014 at 06:01 AM.
The workmanship in so many of the builds these days is very humbling.
funny you should ask!
The boys came out Friday to do what they do best and thats make a room look finished!
Kinda strange I didn't remember calling the ghost busters?!
Maybe its the rocketeer
Some quick picks of my almost finished room. The couch hasn't arrived yet, not until Aug 8th. So my two chairs on top of the riser are Temps (although I really like them up there). I really like my chairs that are on the floor.
The first official movie with visitors was displayed Saturday night for my brothers daughters birthday (3 years old). She picked Frozen for all of us to watch.
I still need to figure out how I am going to calibrate the projector, and some day I would like to make some 15inch subs. I have a couple more things to do in the room but they were put on hold this weekend. I will take some good pictures some time and post them, these are from my cell.
Last edited by ClayliketheDIRT; 07-14-2014 at 08:51 AM.