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Ha! Interestingly enough, I've been losing weight little.by little in real life, because I can't fire up the theater until I reach a certain weight.
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I'm thinking about doing one row of five seats so I don't compromise the bed layer imaging for 3D audio by introducing varying heights to work with a higher rear row. I only give up two seats this way (current plan calls for 7 seats). Any thoughts on this?

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Here's the XT32 vs Parametric EQ blog post, with fixed images. Interesting stuff. Also please check out the new website and let me know what you think. It's only taken 1 year and over 10k to do this one


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I'm thinking about doing one row of five seats so I don't compromise the bed layer imaging for 3D audio by introducing varying heights to work with a higher rear row. I only give up two seats this way (current plan calls for 7 seats). Any thoughts on this?
Just be careful that the two outer seats are not too close to the side surrounds. My only row is 4 seats (but positoned such that they are ofset to one side so there is a sweet spot),

When we have guests, I sit in that seat (you will have two of them) and the side surrounds can be a bit distracting on occassion!!
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Just be careful that the two outer seats are not too close to the side surrounds. My only row is 4 seats (but positoned such that they are ofset to one side so there is a sweet spot),

When we have guests, I sit in that seat (you will have two of them) and the side surrounds can be a bit distracting on occassion!!
Great point....I have seen many theater designs that have one of their rows very close to a side or rear speaker and I've always thought that seat closest to the speaker has to be distracted....I can't see anyway around it.

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Some rooms (myself included) don't have much of a choice :-/

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Some rooms (myself included) don't have much of a choice :-/
Understood...I'm one of them myself as my space is only 12' wide...so I work with what I have and try to mitigate issues best I can.

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I'm in Baltimore today on business but headed home. I shoulda booked my flight an extra day and had Matt grab me from hotel, I would have helped. But my business partner with me and he's total opposite of handy with tools and construction lol.
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I'm thinking about doing one row of five seats so I don't compromise the bed layer imaging for 3D audio by introducing varying heights to work with a higher rear row. I only give up two seats this way (current plan calls for 7 seats). Any thoughts on this?
One more comment. Ask yourself how often you are going to have more folks than just you and your bride in the theater at the same time. In our case, 95% ++++ of the time it is my wife and I. So, we built and optimized the theater for 2 and since not a single visitor has ever seen nor heard anything like we have, everything sounds/looks great to them. And, most of time, we give up the sweet spot for our guests (except for watching college football in which case I don't care where they sit --- just kidding)

Depending on your answer, that may or may not help you configure your seating. To your specific issue, if someone is sitting on the back row and the 3D holographic audio effect is not as good as the first row, now important is it really.

Remember what "comprimises" are: NO ONE gets exactly what they want.

Just a thought!!
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Ill be in DC from december 13-17 on a business trip...Ill have a alot of downtime...any chance we could meet up?

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One more comment. Ask yourself how often you are going to have more folks than just you and your bride in the theater at the same time. In our case, 95% ++++ of the time it is my wife and I. So, we built and optimized the theater for 2 and since not a single visitor has ever seen nor heard anything like we have, everything sounds/looks great to them. And, most of time, we give up the sweet spot for our guests (except for watching college football in which case I don't care where they sit --- just kidding)

Depending on your answer, that may or may not help you configure your seating. To your specific issue, if someone is sitting on the back row and the 3D holographic audio effect is not as good as the first row, now important is it really.

Remember what "comprimises" are: NO ONE gets exactly what they want.

Just a thought!!
agree the sweet spot is the sweet spot for a reason. My family (my grow ass kids) watch movies all the time and all eight seats are full. The folks from the side seats never say wow the sound coming from the souround is loud and distracting.
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agree the sweet spot is the sweet spot for a reason. My family (my grow ass kids) watch movies all the time and all eight seats are full. The folks from the side seats never say wow the sound coming from the souround is loud and distracting.
Agree also. Go ahead and put in a second row, just optimize your sound for the main row. The 2nd row can be your "overflow parking" if you will, and they might not get perfect 3d imaging, but I doubt you will hear a single complaint about it either. If you are doing a demo for some AVS members, you can just state that and rotate them out, but how often will that happen?

Most movies I've watched have been just my wife and I. During big parties we throw all the kids in there, and they obviously don't care. We've had nights with one or two other couples stopping in to watch movies too, but to them just the thought of the theater is amazing, they don't care about it anywhere close to the level that I do, and are blown away anyway because it's not a TV on a wall with some bookshelf speakers.
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The Aura demonstration at CEDIA that everyone was gaga over had reasonable steep stadium bleacher seating with the back row significantly higher than the front. Granted the ceiling was pretty high unlike a basement.
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Agree with the above.

More seats the better. I have 11 seats and some are better than others... But only I notice.

Moreover, the bigger the screen the less picky you'll be on audio. I've always found that a big image that fills your field of view makes somewhat secondary one's sharp senses in discerning the audio (like we would if watching if the a movie with the video off).

I watched Star Trek last night from one of the poorer seats in the theater and still found the audio spectacular - but partly because the big visuals sort of mute one's senses to the sound.

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Agree with the above.

More seats the better. I have 11 seats and some are better than others... But only I notice.

Moreover, the bigger the screen the less picky you'll be on audio. I've always found that a big image that fills your field of view makes somewhat secondary one's sharp senses in discerning the audio (like we would if watching if the a movie with the video off).

I watched Star Trek last night from one of the poorer seats in the theater and still found the audio spectacular - but partly because the big visuals sort of mute one's senses to the sound.

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Been having lots of fun watching your build Beast! It's gunna be truly epic in every sense of the word!

I respect your no non-sense approach to everything about your build. Props bro props! I'll be tuned in thru the whole build and have been enjoying your videos. Super informative!! Also thanks for CEDIA coverage. I wish you all the best luck with the build.

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Oh all b darn didn't know you could do that. Thanks.

When I post from my phone sometimes it gets posted twice for some reason. I'll try to find it and delete the extra one. I assumed only mods could delete entire posts.

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Jeff, I think we have grandfathered in the delete option. Or we get it with 10,000+ posts.

I also use significantly the delete function, and edit feature but I've made a similar suggestion before and the responses I got back where the poster didn't have enough posts to unlock the feature. Perhaps that's all changed since we've changed platforms a few times though.

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I only have 418 posts and can delete my old posts. It's in the advanced editor.

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I've been ridiculously MIA....been sick for a couple of weeks. No work in the basement (not happy about the two week delay)...but I'm feeling sorta better now. While I was sick, I thought about selling all my speakers and buying a new car. It's amazing how the mind works when you're stuck in bed...

It looks like the consensus is....do two rows! I believe I shall do just that. It really is all about the main listening position anyway. Also, after some seminars at Church about the media and the mind, I'm going to take a hard look at my movie collection. I own movies that no Christian has any business owning. I suggest everyone do the same...

Maybe it's the sickness talking, but I think I had a dream about turning the theater into a two channel room....I woke up in a very contemplative mood...

My mind is all over the place...

Laying down now...
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Sorry, I don't know how I missed this one. If it was a serious cry for help, let me know. I'm a bit of a ways away, but we could work something out. Maybe a long & early Sat and/or Sunday??

I've already gotten a TON from your thread, and any way to pay it forward...
Sup man.....definitely a serious cry for help. I'll shoot you a PM tonight man.....appreciate it mucho!
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Hope you feel better Matt. Having a cold sucks when you just feel like you can't do anything. Just out of curiosity, is it just certain movies you may thin out or certain genres. And the 2ch thing made me smile a bit. So did selling everything and buying a car. I hope you get well soon .

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Hope you feel better Matt. Having a cold sucks when you just feel like you can't do anything. Just out of curiosity, is it just certain movies you may thin out or certain genres. And the 2ch thing made me smile a bit. So did selling everything and buying a car. I hope you get well soon .
Any movies with magic/sorcery, demons, etc. That stuff has no place in a Christian's movie collection. Here's one of many texts (Deuteronmy 18: 9-12). If it's an abomination to God, I shouldn't be entertained by it on screen. Thanks man.....af first, I thought it was a cold, but blood started coming from my throat and nostrils every time I coughed.....scared the heck out of me. That stopped yesterday...(Thank God). I still love my two channel music....a two channel room is the next project in one of the spare bedrooms.
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Yeah, hope you feel better soon and stop the crazy talk about selling your speakers

Everyone is waiting for the Beast, Unleashed Home Theater! Me included.

A great home theater, like your designing, makes a pretty good 2 channel room as well. Not the best given some of the different design aspects but pretty darn good.
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Any movies with magic/sorcery, demons, etc..
I'm not sure about the "magic" part (at least my definition of magic) but I can't watch any of the other stuff - demonic is particulary problematic to me.

That said, I would offer a piece of advice (obtained from my bride): "HALTS" - which translates to "don't make important decisions when Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired or Sick"
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Any movies with magic/sorcery, demons, etc. That stuff has no place in a Christian's movie collection. Here's one of many texts (Deuteronmy 18: 9-12). If it's an abomination to God, I shouldn't be entertained by it on screen.

Hey BB. Hope your feeling better. I'm dying for the next video and more progress on your theater.


However, I find that quote just ridiculous. I'm a catholic/Christian and I love the horror genre and action genre. The Exorcist is one of my all time favorite films. Sure the imagery of the possessed Reagan is unsettling as well as the subject matter, but its about much more than the gross/graphic things that happen. My interpretation is its about how Father Karras has lost his faith and how what happens to Reagan helps him to restore his faith and sacrifice himself to save her. He even repents before he dies. Extremely powerful IMO for a God believing person who has struggled with their own faith throughout their life. Saying that films like that don't belong in a Christians film collection is just plain ridiculous. They're just movies. Not real. Pure fiction. It's more than ok to enjoy them as long as one understands they are just purely entertainment. If a particular movie tries to get a more important message across, such as The Exorcist, I think that's fantastic. I love seeing dumb teens get slaughtered in slasher films as well as Rambo delivering some good old fashion justice (especially on those Burmese; I felt Stallone really established them as evil, despicable sub humans that needed to be dealt with in part 4). It's entertainment. If your going to clear out your movie collection of anything that could be an "abomination to God," you should probably throw out all of your action movies too. I don't think God would like you being entertained by people being shot up and killed either. Sorry for the rant, I don't want to hijack your thread and turn it into a religious debate, but to say that a Christian shouldn't have films that have magic, sorcery, or demons in their collection is just plain ridiculous. As long as you can purely separate fiction from reality and you treat people as you want to be treated in real life, God won't have any beef with you popping in a horror/slasher/action movie if you want.


I mean no disrespect to you or your beliefs. As a fellow Christian/Catholic, I just felt that I had to state my opinion since I took offense with that particular quote.

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