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kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:40 PM 11-11-2013
Chillout theater
I have been reading some amazing home theatre build threads over the last few months. Some are pure inspirational and some are just immaculate. It has been a very steep learning curve. After all that been said, now I think I am confident enough to have a crack at it. smile.gif *I hope*
Background:
I live in Melbourne, Australia; the house was built with a room reserved for home theatre. The house was built 2009 the room was left untouched since now when I stumbled across this amazing AVS site and read some amazing threads. Now I am ready smile.gif !



kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:47 PM 11-11-2013
Here is a blown-up theater area;

kk2013's Avatar kk2013 02:17 AM 11-12-2013
The system:

Yamaha 11.2 system RX-V3075
Boston Acoustics A25 Bookshelf Speaker
Boston Acoustics ASW 650 Front-Firing 10 inch 650-Watt Peak Powered Subwoofer
JVC DLA X55R projector
Denon DBT3313 Networked Blu-ray / DVD Player


kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:46 PM 11-14-2013
These are the photos after the house was built (2009). The theater room was acoustically treated, soundproof pinkbatts installed, extra thick soundproof dry wall.
The room was used for storage and a makeshift clothes drying room.






kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:31 PM 11-15-2013
The much simplified plans for all the walls. Indicatively shown how it will look like. I wanted to do the 3d model using 3D Max studio which I have done for my house. But It takes a lot of time to do the 3D model. So I was thinking leave the surprise or mystery element in project.





Tedd's Avatar Tedd 07:27 PM 11-15-2013
Do you REALLY want your LR mains buried in the corners and the center channel
at stage height???
BIGmouthinDC's Avatar BIGmouthinDC 08:52 PM 11-15-2013
while you are at it IMHO forget about a Flat screen behind a retractable screen, Probably the second worst idea in building a first class home theater, the first is putting a flat screen over a fireplace. Just watch TV with your projector.
kk2013's Avatar kk2013 10:58 PM 11-15-2013
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Originally Posted by Tedd View Post

Do you REALLY want your LR mains buried in the corners and the center channel
at stage height???

Oh drawing mistake, what I really want to show is this;


kk2013's Avatar kk2013 11:11 PM 11-15-2013
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

while you are at it IMHO forget about a Flat screen behind a retractable screen, Probably the second worst idea in building a first class home theater, the first is putting a flat screen over a fireplace. Just watch TV with your projector.

I did actually think about what you said there, but I was thinking since I have a little space there so I thought maybe it is a good idea in case I do really need it ? I also think that this room can be a family/games room with Play stations, Wii and xBox 360 connect to the TV rather than projector. Playing games may need to turn on lights then projector image will be degraded with lights on.
ellisr63's Avatar ellisr63 11:25 PM 11-15-2013
If you get yourself a nice bright projector you can view it with the lights on. We have been using our projector for everything for the last 2 years in our current home. I am currently using the inexpensive BenQ w1070 on a 134" screen and we had to lower the output as it was way to bright.
Tedd's Avatar Tedd 07:01 AM 11-16-2013
There are many reasons sticking the hdtv up front is a poor design choice.

Will that be an expensive tensioned screen, or will you just suffer a wavy roll up screen, which is what happens
over time?

ALL your front speakers are near boundary. It is unlikely they were designed for this. And your center channel is low enough
that the front row might cause issues with hearing dialog.

A large reflective piece of glass on the front wall, where you want absorption?

Why not just put the hdtv out on front, on a rolling stand, that could be stored in the media library room? You could wire in a
some video ports in the front of the stage. And the hdtv would be closer to the seating, not further away.

Or skip the hdtv entirely and buy a cheap second hand projector for gaming use.
kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:27 PM 11-16-2013
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Originally Posted by Tedd View Post

There are many reasons sticking the hdtv up front is a poor design choice.

Will that be an expensive tensioned screen, or will you just suffer a wavy roll up screen, which is what happens
over time?

ALL your front speakers are near boundary. It is unlikely they were designed for this. And your center channel is low enough
that the front row might cause issues with hearing dialog.

A large reflective piece of glass on the front wall, where you want absorption?

Why not just put the hdtv out on front, on a rolling stand, that could be stored in the media library room? You could wire in a
some video ports in the front of the stage. And the hdtv would be closer to the seating, not further away.

Or skip the hdtv entirely and buy a cheap second hand projector for gaming use.

Tedd, Thanks for the info and advise never thought of the HDTV becomes a reflective piece of glass. It sounds like a bad idea to to have a HDTV behind the screen. So what is the optimal height for the center speaker?
kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:33 PM 11-16-2013
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Originally Posted by ellisr63 View Post

If you get yourself a nice bright projector you can view it with the lights on. We have been using our projector for everything for the last 2 years in our current home. I am currently using the inexpensive BenQ w1070 on a 134" screen and we had to lower the output as it was way to bright.

Thanks ellisr63, I think I will just use the projector for everything, Since the projector is bright enough. The reason i thought the projector is not bright enough back 10 years ago I had a Sanyo projector and it needs to have the light deemed or off inorder to have a decent image quality. I guess the technology has improved dramatically over the 10 years smile.gif
Tedd's Avatar Tedd 07:31 AM 11-17-2013
The optimal height for a center channel would be the tweeters in the same horizontal plain as
the mains. To do this, you would need an acoustically transparent screen. In North America,
we have a very good and very affordable SeymourXD DIY screen option. Might be worth some time
to explore what options you have in Australia.
kk2013's Avatar kk2013 06:01 PM 11-18-2013
While I am thinking all other techincal details...

Ok .. So eager to start; here is my plan of attack. smile.gif

Step 1. Clean the room

Step 2. Measure up

Step 3. Mark out where things are.

Step 4. Imagine how things look and feel the locations that they in.




kk2013's Avatar kk2013 10:50 PM 11-21-2013
Materials arrived,

Building the stage and filling with sand (hard work).






kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:09 PM 11-22-2013
Stage & Platform done! ticked.



jdanforth's Avatar jdanforth 08:08 PM 11-22-2013
Boy, I sure hope that sand was dry!
kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:10 PM 11-25-2013
Stage Wall and back wall framing done.





Next task, the star ceiling "Galaxy Celing".
TimOlo's Avatar TimOlo 02:16 AM 11-28-2013
Hi kk2013,

Are you planning to 'level' off the ceiling with framing? Rather than having a slopping ceiling? Your latest picture of the ceiling framing tells me that maybe the case?

Cheers,
Tim
kk2013's Avatar kk2013 04:47 PM 11-28-2013
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Originally Posted by TimOlo View Post

Hi kk2013,

Are you planning to 'level' off the ceiling with framing? Rather than having a slopping ceiling? Your latest picture of the ceiling framing tells me that maybe the case?

Cheers,
Tim

Yes Tim, I don't like slopping ceiling. I also need the roof cavity for the fibre optic runs, to create a "star ceiling" smile.gif
TimOlo's Avatar TimOlo 04:52 PM 11-28-2013
Cool, I definately think a level ceiling will be the way to go. A bit of crawl/wiggle space as well for any adjustments to the fiber ceiling can't hurt!

A friend of mine in Sydney did a fibre optic star ceiling - I only ever saw the finished product (looked great!) but from what I gathered, he indicated it took a lot of time of time to complete - so good luck with it!

Cheers,
Tim
kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:34 PM 11-28-2013
Measure, cut and paint all the MDF.

Flipping over and marking the "galaxy" pattern

Marking and drilling fibre holes

Stage 1 of markings of fibre

Guiding and Running the fibres

Closeup shot of the fibre

First finished run of fibres still many more runs.

kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:35 PM 11-28-2013
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Originally Posted by TimOlo View Post

Cool, I definately think a level ceiling will be the way to go. A bit of crawl/wiggle space as well for any adjustments to the fiber ceiling can't hurt!

A friend of mine in Sydney did a fibre optic star ceiling - I only ever saw the finished product (looked great!) but from what I gathered, he indicated it took a lot of time of time to complete - so good luck with it!

Cheers,
Tim

Yes mate, It takes alot of time...
kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:43 PM 12-12-2013
After many hours of threading the fibres, finally it's going up the ceiling and freeing up some space.


I am working on the columns and skirting at the moment..
kk2013's Avatar kk2013 02:53 AM 02-11-2014
It has been a long break, finally have some time to do some work on my home theater. My own little "chillout" zone. smile.gif

The above photo shows the columns, some columns will house the side speakers.


Shows one section of the wall near the stage.


Skirting installed, to see the effect. I quite like it I think it looks good. So will carry-on install all other skirting.
Q8472's Avatar Q8472 04:56 AM 02-11-2014
nice build man!
cbcdesign's Avatar cbcdesign 06:55 AM 02-11-2014
Those Mitred joints on the Skirting looks really good. Nice Skirting too.
kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:14 PM 02-14-2014
Thanks Q8472, i's such a long journey but enjoy every minute of it.. smile.gif
kk2013's Avatar kk2013 05:17 PM 02-14-2014
cbcdesign: thanks, Those skirtings were spare left when I was building the house. Now they are come in handy.
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