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post #211 of 219 Old 01-08-2014, 07:31 PM - Thread Starter
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Thanks all for your support, guidance, challenges and advice - all appreciated

just started a new thread for the build which started this week.. you can see it at:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1510688/drama-in-the-theatre-building-a-12-seater-home-theatre
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Seats were $16k.

Sixteen thousand dollars for theater seats?

How many people does your HT seat? 20???

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Anyone know how i contact an AVS moderator? I have had an automated warning about posting a Erskine group phone number, which i dont think i did and want to ask about it.
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16K was about right - I purchased the Salamander Talia seats in black leather. They are american made and have a site here: www.salamanderdesigns.com.

there was an MSRP price guide here: http://nocidesign.com/downloads/brochure_priceguide.pdf

It seats 6, in two rows of 3 and it's all italian leather, with motorized recliners. It wasn't cheap, but after a lot of running around, i felt that it was worth paying the premium for the quality - it was heads and shoulders above other things i looked at.

My only regret was not long after buying these - DBOX released some seats, and for the price I paid I might have gone and spent a bit extra to get the DBOX seats in.

I'm sure there's more affordable options out there.
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I'm liking the Matteo's.....I gather they don't have an Aussie supplier?

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Is that now not allowed ?

I did manage to communicate with the moderator who was very reasonable on the matter. He had been requested by Erskine to remove a phone number (i didnt realise i had put it in there - i guess it was in the Erskine signature at the bottom of the listed emails) and it turns out although it was the Erskine "Group" phone number i was told to use to contact Shawn Byrne (SierraMikeBravo), it was a private number for their designer and not a company number.
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I did manage to communicate with the moderator who was very reasonable on the matter. He had been requested by Erskine to remove a phone number (i didnt realise i had put it in there - i guess it was in the Erskine signature at the bottom of the listed emails) and it turns out although it was the Erskine "Group" phone number i was told to use to contact Shawn Byrne (SierraMikeBravo), it was a private number for their designer and not a company number.
The issue at stake here is called conflict of interest. A designer that provides design consulting and at the same time sells gear will have financial incentives to use the products he/she is reselling in his/her design. Nothing is wrong as long as it is clearly mentioned in the contract. This should be clear in the contract that the designer is selling and promoting products and as a result is not free of conflict of interest. By definition such designer has no fiduciary duty to the customers.
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The issue at stake here is called conflict of interest. A designer that provides design consulting and at the same time sells gear will have financial incentives to use the products he/she is reselling in his/her design. Nothing is wrong as long as it is clearly mentioned in the contract. This should be clear in the contract that the designer is selling and promoting products and as a result is not free of conflict of interest. By definition such designer has no fiduciary duty to the customers.
Agreed. There's certainly fine line to tread. There's likely as many good reasons to have combined functions as there are otherwise.

Personally for everything associated with the house I have found it much more effective to keep the two roles (suppliers vs designers) strictly separated. I'm willing to pay the consulting rates when desired results are delivered. Likewise I'll pay for products when they're genuinely the 'right ones for the job'. Budgets often dictate just how far things can go, but I've rarely been disappointed to have paid a consultant or a designer to come up with a solid plan that can be implemented in stages. I have, however, been disappointed when a designer is tied to, or excessively favors, products that aren't the best choices for my budget/goals.

It's a two-way street, if you're not going to educate yourself on your own dime/time then it's only fair to pay someone else to handhold or bring you up to speed. But don't take your eye off your wallet. Know what you're getting and what the market considers reasonable for it.
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