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I have tried to do a search of AVS for an AT screen build and stage build, but I just cannot find what I am looking for. Found a few, but looking for a more detailed build thread with multiple photos.

I am looking for a very detailed threads with pics of an AT screen build along with a front stage build. Can be separate build threads. If anyone remembers a build thread or has pics of these build threads can you please pass it off to me? I have decided to go AT screen and I told my builder I would send him pictures this weekend with something along the lines of what I want. I just want to give him an idea of what I am talking about. Allot of your contributions have really helped me explain my theater build to my builder, I am very thankful for the guys that have shared their builds with us.

Thank you in advance for any help here guys.
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everything you need to know will be in one of those threads. See my signature

Are you looking for straight or curved stage
Will the fabric screen wall go wall to wall or do you need something on the sides because of room width?

Tell me what you want I have 100s of pictures I've never posted.

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I've got a stage and an acoustically transparent screen. All DIY.

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everything you need to know will be in one of those threads. See my signature

Are you looking for straight or curved stage
Will the fabric screen wall go wall to wall or do you need something on the sides because of room width?

Tell me what you want I have 100s of pictures I've never posted.

I also do contractor to contractor consulting via Skype.
I don't have allot of space DC. My stage will be simple as the screen and stage will both be the width of the room. The theater is small at 14X16. So what I essentially saying is I would like an AT build with the AT screen and stage built together to the width of the room. Nothing fancy on the stage, just straight and square, I also want my speakers to be set on the stage behind the screen. The only thing I am worried about is that if I do the AT screen, I will be at about 10' viewing to the seats. Do you think that will be to close? I am fine with it, I have to work with what I got. Thank you. I wanted you to do this build for me, but I remember you saying you are booked! Thank you for the offer for Skype consulting. I will pass that off to him.

This is very similar to what I want, but looking for a few more options/ pictures etc..

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1469400/gorillas-130-16-9-at-screen-and-false-wall-build-xd-fabric-custom-frame-grommet-o-ring-tensioning
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I love that, beautiful, but I don't have that kind of space. I will have to do a stage and screen the width of the room. Thanks for sharing.
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Actually you do have the space for that look, if you use a single row of seating, use in wall front speakers and plant
the AT screen wall 6" in front of the front wall, right on top of the stage.
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Actually you do have the space for that look, if you use a single row of seating, use in wall front speakers and plant
the AT screen wall 6" in front of the front wall, right on top of the stage.
I don't want in wall speakers, but besides I already have my audio. I will be doing a 7.2 with 4XJTR Single 8's for surround. I also have 2XJTR 212HT's for mains and 1XJTR 228HT for a center. I also have 2XPSA Triax subs. I just recently purchased 2 Danley Sound Labs SM60F's. which I will be A/B'n to see if I like the JTR's or Danleys in the final build of the theater.
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I get where you are going with this, as I have experience with a similar sound system in a smaller space.

How tall is the room and how many seats do you really need?

Have you used those S8's as surrounds near the seating? I ask because I sold off my rear T8's when I cut off ten feet of theater.
I love my T8's and Contrabass subs up front, but I couldn't hack the T8's as near field surrounds.
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STRAIGHT STAGE AND SCREEN WALL 101


You build a frame on top of roofing felt, keeping it 1/2 inch away from walls



You line each cavity with plastic and fill with play sand



Add decking, two layers of 3/4 plywood or OSB with Roofing felt or GG between layers leave a 1 1/2 inch lip and round over with a router.



You build a screen support structure and add the z clips for the screen frame.





You make 4 frames for around the screen top,bottom, left and right. Picture of the ones for the top and bottom:



Wrap them in either black GOM FR701 or black velvet and put in place.

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Here is a JTR build with an AT screen (no stage though). Front row to screen in this room is around 9'. Lots of detailed pics are posted in the thread.



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Thank you so much guys, these are perfect!! I really appreciate it.
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STRAIGHT STAGE AND SCREEN WALL 101


You build a frame on top of roofing felt, keeping it 1/2 inch away from walls



You line each cavity with plastic and fill with play sand



Add decking, two layers of 3/4 plywood or OSB with Roofing felt or GG between layers leave a 1 1/2 inch lip and round over with a router.



You build a screen support structure and add the z clips for the screen frame.





You make 4 frames for around the screen top,bottom, left and right. Picture of the ones for the top and bottom:



Wrap them in either black GOM FR701 or black velvet and put in place.

This is perfect DC!! Nice job, that is just beautiful. I hope mine turns out as nice.
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Very nice.


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Detailed step by step pics for my AT screen is in my Signature. My stage build starts here Retirement Dream Home Theater stage
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Detailed step by step pics for my AT screen is in my Signature. My stage build starts here Retirement Dream Home Theater stage
Haha, I remember reading some of this a while back. Thanks for sharing. Good pictures. I have the same Panasonic AE-8000U projector, how do you like it? Mine is still sitting in the box, I bought it on Cyber Monday and received it about a month later, it has been sitting ever since. I am getting worried that by the time my theater is finished the projector will be obsolete tongue.gif
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I have a very narrow room with my screen and stage running the entire width. Fairly simple and straight forward.



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Haha, I remember reading some of this a while back. Thanks for sharing. Good pictures. I have the same Panasonic AE-8000U projector, how do you like it? Mine is still sitting in the box, I bought it on Cyber Monday and received it about a month later, it has been sitting ever since. I am getting worried that by the time my theater is finished the projector will be obsolete tongue.gif
The AE-800 is a really nice projector. Have you checked out the owners thread yet? There are some units out there that have convergence issues. I would at least fire it at a white wall or sheet just to see if you have any issues. I did a good write up in that thread how to set it up for the first time (if you are using ceiling mount.

I really like the Seymour Center Stage XD screen I made it constant image area 2.0:1 so over all it is 126"x65" that gives me
126"x52" 2.40:1 with 136" diag, 6 12" bars top and bottom
126"x54" 2.35:1 with 137" diag, 5 1/2" bars top and bottom
120"x65" 1.85:1 with 137" diag, (man this size make it like being there) 3" bars both sides
116"x65" 16x9 with 133" diag. 5" bars both sides
So in the way the best of both worlds If I would have done a 2.40:1 screen 126" wide my 16x9 size would have been 92"x52" with 106" diag. If I would have done 16X9 65" tall my 2.40:1 would have been 116"x48" 126" diag.
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I have a very narrow room with my screen and stage running the entire width. Fairly simple and straight forward.


talk about a wall of sound eek.gif your avatar name says it all biggrin.gif do you have a build thread?
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Does anyone know how tall the stage is on the hometheater of the month? Looks like there is pictures of that on this thread.
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2x10s plus 1 1/2 decking
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Do you remember his ceiling height and soffit height? Just trying to compare to my room. I currently have my staged with 2x10's but was worried it would be to tall with and 8ft ceiling over the screen area. Most of the room is 9ft tall except about 5 feet where the screen is going.
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just shy of 9 from memory, soffit was 10-12 ish you could go as small as 6 and still fit the lights I use.

For planning, assume the screen image will be 4 inches down from the soffit it you mount it as high as possible, then based on screen size figure the bottom plus 3 1/2 for the frame. what is left is what you fill in with a fabric panel.
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The only thing I am worried about is that if I do the AT screen, I will be at about 10' viewing to the seats. Do you think that will be to close?

At that seating distance you need to worry about seeing too much texture, it's a personal thing.


If I were in your shoes, I'd order samples of these three products:

http://www.seymourav.com/store.asp center stage XD

http://www.elunevision.com/referenceaudioweave.html 4k audio weave

http://www.falconscreens.com/

Get the samples on the wall (with a black background) and see if you can notice the weave from your seating distance using your projector.

Pick your favorite, order, hang up and enjoy smile.gif


Have fun.

Here is my build thread:

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At that seating distance you need to worry about seeing too much texture, it's a personal thing.


If I were in your shoes, I'd order samples of these three products:

http://www.seymourav.com/store.asp center stage XD

http://www.elunevision.com/referenceaudioweave.html 4k audio weave

http://www.falconscreens.com/

Get the samples on the wall (with a black background) and see if you can notice the weave from your seating distance using your projector.

Pick your favorite, order, hang up and enjoy smile.gif


Have fun.
Thank you. I have to start getting ready to buy a screen. I am complexity lost!
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At that seating distance you need to worry about seeing too much texture, it's a personal thing.


If I were in your shoes, I'd order samples of these three products:

http://www.seymourav.com/store.asp center stage XD

http://www.elunevision.com/referenceaudioweave.html 4k audio weave

http://www.falconscreens.com/

Get the samples on the wall (with a black background) and see if you can notice the weave from your seating distance using your projector.

Pick your favorite, order, hang up and enjoy smile.gif


Have fun.

I have samples for all of those guys along with the Enlightor 4K material from Seymour, IMO the Falcon screen material is the best as far an not being able to see it from say 10ft away. A nice plus is that its also the cheapest as far as pricing goes. It's a win win IHMO. The EN4K material would have been nice but it was a little dim and way too much money for my budget.

Reef drop snickers1 a pm, if you're interested in a Falcon screen. I think the Falcon screen was about $300 less then what a SeymourAV screen with the XD material would have cost me. Rich also masking panels coming to market very soon for his screens and they will be priced under $300 from what he's told me.
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Here's a picture of my screen wall, still waiting for my carpet to get installed and I'm just trying to finish up my fabric frame panels to go around it.

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I can't believe my theater is three years old now! I should start a thread and reflect on my build and what I have learned. I highly encourage the OP to listen and incorporate the advice of people like Big. The fact I listened to their advice made the quality of the viewing experience in my theater standout from other home theaters I have visited.

As for the stage wall, here are some early pictures from my build. This shows the frame for the screen and the insulation behind the screen to keep sound from echoing in the room.....



Here is a picture with Homer sitting by the center channel and the velvet frames in place....



Finally, a shot with the screen in place....

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I have a pretty simple full width stage (built as two separate floating boxes so that they don't damage the wooden floor) with an AT screen on a false wall above.
Details are in my build thread.
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STRAIGHT STAGE AND SCREEN WALL 101


You build a frame on top of roofing felt, keeping it 1/2 inch away from walls



You line each cavity with plastic and fill with play sand



Add decking, two layers of 3/4 plywood or OSB with Roofing felt or GG between layers leave a 1 1/2 inch lip and round over with a router.



You build a screen support structure and add the z clips for the screen frame.





You make 4 frames for around the screen top,bottom, left and right. Picture of the ones for the top and bottom:



Wrap them in either black GOM FR701 or black velvet and put in place.


Looks great will probably replicate this. I see the screen is close to the ceiling. when you zoom to get a a 2.35 image the black bars on the top of the image will be on the ceiling. If the ceiling is painted black will that be noticable. This may sound stupid but trying to understand how this works
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That's a 2.35 screen, so no black bars on the top or bottom of the image. When viewing 16:9 content, you'll get them on the sides though, but they will still fall on the screen. That is, the 16:9 image will fill the height of the screen but not the width.
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