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Well, I have finally started on the 2nd take of our theater room and want to first give Spaceman accolades for help with the design. He has roughly 15 hours of drawing time and 8 different studies and I am thankful for his time and input. It was definitely worth the investment to see the room on paper first. Here are few shots of the current room built in 2006 with current floor plan








Current equipment
Receiver 7.7
Sony BD player
Sharp XVZ3100 projector
SI 92" Solar screen 16:9
Klipsch RF series 7.1

and here are the plans for the 2nd






As you can see we are going to make some major changes. Removing the wall behind the 2nd row of seats, this will open it up another 2'+. Moving the entry door to the center of the room and the AV rack outside of the room with entry to that in the back right corner. I will need to build a utility closet in the hall outside the room. As well as building a false wall to house a 125" wide AT screen and adding a soffit

New equipment will consist of:
Receiver - currently Integra 50.5
DVD - Oppo 103 BD
Projector - Sony 55ES
UH480 lens
2.35 -120 AT screen - Falcon Screen
LCR - 1099
Surrounds/Rears - Volt 10's
Subs DIY - 2 - 18" Dayton drivers
Crown 1000 amps for the speakers
Peavey 750 amp for the subs



Today was the first day of demolition with some modest gains




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The drop ceiling is now completely down and preparing for soffit construction

Question:
What has everyone done as far as assembly; are you using a nail gun or using screws and glue?
What is the preferred material; drywall or MDF and are you doubling up the drywall?

The soffit will cover the duck (cold air return for the far side of the upstairs) that runs down the left side of the room, as pictured.



The soffit needs to be 28" to cover the widest point of the duct. One concern is being able to find a low profile can light to install under the duct with out giving up to much ceiling height. The measurement is 8'9" to the bottom side of the duct. So I am thinking that, even @ 8' ceiling height I should be able to find a fixture that will work.

Also, should I fill the soffit with the R13 or hard foam board or leave open?
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the progress has been slower than I expected, but I consider planning to be progress. Room is totally gutted and will start reworking the electrical lay out and HVAC once I have a definite direction on the soffit. In the meantime, I have been looking at trim and wall color and carpet patterns.
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the progress has been slower than I expected, but I consider planning to be progress. Room is totally gutted and will start reworking the electrical lay out and HVAC once I have a definite direction on the soffit. In the meantime, I have been looking at trim and wall color and carpet patterns.

What are you wanting your color palette to be?
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What are you wanting your color palette to be?
I like the Allen Roth "Clock Tower" for the chair rail down and the columns up to the soffit. (although I will be using Sherwin Williams paint) Not quite sure what I want to do with the top half. Thinking that I would do panels but have not picked out a color. Going for 1800's color.
http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/080047/080047977886lg.jpg

Maybe a rustic or washed purple. I don't know, I need to order up some cloth samples I guess


I like the gold panels, or what looks like gold, in the Grouse Theater. I am thinking that would look good against the brown.
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Steady it goes. Yesterday I removed all the electrical and the HVAC. In doing that created a little extra work out in the main room of the basement having to reestablish power to some of the light. But all is working again. Today, did not have much time to work on the room, however I was able to cut in the new doorway, tape off the dimensions of the screen and order the materials for the stage and the riser.

Tomorrow I hope to finish roughing in the entry way and frame up the old one.



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No turning back now! smile.gif
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No turning back now! smile.gif

That's right. The only turning back will be turning this room back into a theater!
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Al little more progress this weekend. I was able to put 5/8 DW & GG on the underside of the first floor and insulate. My plan is to start hanging the OSB and DW on the ceiling this week.



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one step closer. I was not able to hang the OSB & DW but I was able to install the clips and channel. Hopefully I will be hanging the ceiling next weekend.
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Just about finished with the first layer of OSB, I have one small piece in the corner I will install in the morning and then I can move to the GG & DW

Kudos to my wife for the second pair of hands, She has been a great help through out this...so far!
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Busted but today and finished hanging the ceiling. 11' boards of drywall will make an honest man out of anybody. Everything now will be gravy compared to hanging DW on a ceiling.
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I see that some risers have vents in them, is it necessary? Is there a science on where the must be placed?
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A little more progress today. Thanks to Big and his soffit design, they went together in a snap and were easy to install on the ceiling.
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I was able to complete the stage over the long weekend as well as install a new catalytic converter on the Volvo. The plan this week is to order the DW for the soffits and start on the electrical. I want to say thanks to all of you that have posted your projects, your builds have been very helpful and I appreciate it. Thanks.
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I see that some risers have vents in them, is it necessary? Is there a science on where the must be placed?


There are are various threads on this... But typically the vents are for "bass trapping".  There seems to be some perception of 'science needed', and a few folks who say the pressure is at the 'outer walls', so, making the vents along the outside edges of the Riser.    I think you may need to have the 'stringer' boards be shallower than the outer edge boards of the platform.  

 

One of the threads had a person who was going to do some different testing to get an optimal set up, but haven't see the results of that yet.  

 

This thread has some pictures and lots of discussion on this..   http://www.avsforum.com/t/1527200/risers-101


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There are are various threads on this... But typically the vents are for "bass trapping".  There seems to be some perception of 'science needed', and a few folks who say the pressure is at the 'outer walls', so, making the vents along the outside edges of the Riser.    I think you may need to have the 'stringer' boards be shallower than the outer edge boards of the platform.  

One of the threads had a person who was going to do some different testing to get an optimal set up, but haven't see the results of that yet.  

This thread has some pictures and lots of discussion on this..   http://www.avsforum.com/t/1527200/risers-101

Thank you for the info. I was planning on having my stringers more shallow for multiple reasons and now I can add this to as well. I will definitely check out the link. ~ Thanks
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Another weekend, another step closer to completion. The electrical is roughed in, the riser is started and DW is about finished. I am waiting for the LED can lights to arrive, I ordered them from Destination Lighting.
http://www.destinationlighting.com/item/dimmable-14-watt-led-6-inch-recessed-lighting-kit-case-pack-6/437586

Looking forward to the lights arriving so I can wrap up DW installation, it is not one of my favorite things to do.


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Hey if anyone has any suggestions or if any of the pictures provoke questions, feel free to chime in. This project surely has been a great learning experience, especially with the process in which things are completed. I am enjoying it but when it is completed, I don't know if I want to do it again right away, but with experience, everything becomes easier.
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The wider, acoustically transparent screen will give you a totally new, more immersive experience. Personally, I think the 1:1 viewing ratio for scope movies that you will now enjoy is about perfect.
Add to that the aesthetic improvements, and it is like you are getting an entirely new build for a fraction of the cost and effort.
Just one comment/concern...won't the 2.5' from entry to chair back seem rather cramped? Perhaps a small price to pay for the overall improvement.

What a great project. I will have to hang around to see how it all turns out.
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The wider, acoustically transparent screen will give you a totally new, more immersive experience. Personally, I think the 1:1 viewing ratio for scope movies that you will now enjoy is about perfect.
Add to that the aesthetic improvements, and it is like you are getting an entirely new build for a fraction of the cost and effort.
Just one comment/concern...won't the 2.5' from entry to chair back seem rather cramped? Perhaps a small price to pay for the overall improvement.

What a great project. I will have to hang around to see how it all turns out.


Thanks for stopping by David. Really looking forward to the "immersion"

Not sure how cramped the entry will feel, hopefully not too bad. I do not do much hosting and after a while I will grow accustom to it. I'll be sure to post when finished how it turns out.
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Not much progress made this weekend, however I was able to start roughing in the wiring in the riser, 4 light boxes in, 4 to go. Riser is 90% complete, just need to finish the front steps to the 1st row. Also ran 2" conduit from front to back, finished patching all the old speaker wire locations around the room and move the 2 outlets on the front wall 1' further towards the center of the room so that the corner bass traps would not cover them up.
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Lights arrived yesterday, so, of course I went right to work.


The back 6 lights are up.


I took Spaceman's advice and the front lights closest to the stage will be on their own switch. That way I will be able to have the back lights on at a low level without affecting the picture on the screen from the front lights casting light onto the screen.

The cans fit in nicely under the cold air return for the upstairs...

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Another weekend, another step closer to enjoyment. We finished the electrical in the riser, stuffed it with the fluffy and 2 layers of OSB with GG. It is nice crossing "to do's" of the list.


Will post pictures once I figure it out.
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Some pic's of the riser
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Thanks for taking the time to document your build. There's some good and bad there:
Good:
- Your retro looks very similar to one I'm planning on doing, and I appreciate the play by play
- LOVE your risers, wish I could incorporate them into my design!!
Bad:
- That link to Destination Lighting may end up costing me...
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Bad:
- That link to Destination Lighting may end up costing me...



Thanks Doug. The lights are working well and were the least expensive ones I found.
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It was back to work this weekend after a few weeks off, our male dog Kooper passed on June 20th and it really wiped my ambition out.


so this weekend I finished installing the lights fixtures, stuffed the soffits with insulation and hung the DW on them. HVAC guys are scheduled to be here in the AM to install the supplies and the cold air return and then I will put the last of the DW up on the back soffit.
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Last week the HVAC was completed, 2 supplies & 1 cold air return . The 2 supplies are 6" runs with a 4x10" box and the return is 14"x14"
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Today the guys are here to tape & mud the seems. My goal is to primer the walls & ceiling by the end of the weekend.


1 of the changes I made to the original plan was to move the equipment rack to the closet adjacent to the theater entrance. This will keep me from having a large hole on the back wall and the added expense of soundproofing it. So what I did was replace the 24" door with 28" door so that I could roll the AV rack n there and the Dwallers will tape & mud that today as well.
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