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everyone I've met when doing an A/B test with and without the Darbee, picks the darbee It just makes the picture a little sharper, you can buy a standalone unit for $200-300 or pay the extra $100 for the Oppo model with it built in.
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Got it. Oppo with Darbee it is. Now to focus on the projector.
What price range would buy a VERY GOOD projector? Just so I know where to start.
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Got it. Oppo with Darbee it is. Now to focus on the projector.
What price range would buy a VERY GOOD projector? Just so I know where to start.
Thank you, Richard

Entry level but decent $4k, very good $10-15k, amazing $25k+

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Some would argue that the cheapest 'good' projector is the Epson 5030 - so $2600 or so.
The real 'good' ones IMO start with JVC's lineup, so $3500, but the RS49 at $5000 (MSRP not street price) is my favorite bang/buck.
Then you move into the luxury goods market, where 10k+ starts getting you premium brand names, Sony 4k projectors, hand-selected JVCs, 3 chip DLPs with professional-level brightness, etc etc. Most people don't play in this league, as our rooms don't need the brightness, and the Runco and Sim2s don't have the CR that the JVCs do. But if you have the $ or need a 200" wide screen, $20k+ is where it's at.

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I'd put the Panasonic 8k in there as a good "cheap" PJ as well. Even if it's a year or so old.

For blu-ray players it depends on what you will use the most. If it's just blu-ray movies most any $150-$250 player will do a good job and probably comparable to the Oppo. If you want good DVD up-scaling then Oppo is a better choice. If you have decided on the Darbee than the Oppo with it built in is a no brainer.

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I agree with the above about the cable. Based on recs on here i have the monoprice mentioned above....i think it is 35 ft. Also look at amazon basics. They are less than 10 for 6 ft. I have one for my xbox, bd player, tuner and will use one for a streaming player when i get one.

I love my panny. Had the 4000 at our last house and have the 8000 in our new one. Looks great to me and fits nicely in my budget.
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My panasonic AE-8000 is all I need for now. Less than $2k when you throw in the rebate
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Yeah I forgot about the Panny 8k. Still a good one even though its a year older. Hopefully they come out with a replacement this year to make me re-think buying a RS49 at Christmas.
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Is Panasonic still offering the rebate?

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Got Google?

http://images.projectorpeople.com/downloads/rebates/Panasonic/PANPTAE8000_rebate350_9302014.pdf
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Thanks Big! I didn't realize the rebate was happening again!
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I am now seriously considering the JVC RS45 as the new projector.
I am concerned only that it might be a noisy machine. It will be mounted 6.5 feet from my ears.
Know much about this unit, Big?
Thank you, Richard

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I am now seriously considering the JVC RS45 as the new projector.
I am concerned only that it might be a noisy machine. It will be mounted 6.5 feet from my ears.
Know much about this unit, Big?
Thank you, Richard

No worries there.............last Tuesday, for the first time I sat in second row of theater maybe 3-4 feet from exhaust of my 1100ES. No complaints and never noticed fan noise..........bet the RS45 will be as quiet since both are LCOS. JVC machines are relatively quiet with fan noise compared to most projectors......

Myself personally, JVC projectors throw a better picture than both Epsons and Panny.........but at the cost of brightness. If you don't go too big a screen then JVC is the better choice.......
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Terrific. THank you. Does the RS49 offer significant advantages over the RS46 to make the extra cost worth it--in your opinion?

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If you like the JVC RS49 so much, what do you think of the RS46? Worth the extra bucks?

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I am now seriously considering the JVC RS45 as the new projector.
I am concerned only that it might be a noisy machine. It will be mounted 6.5 feet from my ears.
Know much about this unit, Big?
Thank you, Richard

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No worries there.............last Tuesday, for the first time I sat in second row of theater maybe 3-4 feet from exhaust of my 1100ES. No complaints and never noticed fan noise..........bet the RS45 will be as quiet since both are LCOS. JVC machines are relatively quiet with fan noise compared to most projectors......

Myself personally, JVC projectors throw a better picture than both Epsons and Panny.........but at the cost of brightness. If you don't go too big a screen then JVC is the better choice.......
I have a Panasonic AE-8000 and when sitting in the back row the projector is basically over head and there is no issue with fan noise. Also for critical listening you can put the fan in eco mode.
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If you like the JVC RS49 so much, what do you think of the RS46? Worth the extra bucks?

You may consider asking that very same question in the > $3000 projector forum. I considered the 65 with Isco III anamorphic lense but brightness was issue for my room which sent me to 3 chip DLP but settled on Sony 1100ES.
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I have an older model JVC projector (RS-20) and absolutely love it. When I decide to upgrade, JVC will definitely be at the top of my list. The projector is mounted on the ceiling almost directly above my head and I don't hear it even during quiet passages. It does not throw as bright an image as an Epson, but the black levels are superior.

I agree with all the comments about Monoprice cables. They are great.

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JVC RS49 vs. RS45

Thank you very much. I'll jump over to the >$3,000 projector forum to see what they think.

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Oppo is THE number one recommended Bluray player on this forum, hands down. Personally I just installed an Epson 5030 and I rank it lower than the JVC, Sony and Panasonic that I've installed lately.
I have heard that OPPO is limited in the number of services it has partnered with, whereas Samsung has many more including Hulu, Pandora, etc.
Know anything about this, and whether or not it is important to consider. IOW perhaps there are other ways to easily access these media suppliers.
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everyone I've met when doing an A/B test with and without the Darbee, picks the darbee It just makes the picture a little sharper, you can buy a standalone unit for $200-300 or pay the extra $100 for the Oppo model with it built in.
So, is the Oppo 103D the least expensive Oppo with built-in Darbee?
I see no reason to go higher than the least expensive Oppo that has Darbee. Agree?
Thanks, Richard
PS And, it seems impossible to find it for under $600 which is what Oppo sells it for direct at their web site oppodigital.com .
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the more expensive models have some audiophile components/parts that maybe someone with better ears than mine could appreciate.
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So, is the Oppo 103D the least expensive Oppo with built-in Darbee?
I see no reason to go higher than the least expensive Oppo that has Darbee. Agree?
Thanks, Richard
PS And, it seems impossible to find it for under $600 which is what Oppo sells it for direct at their web site oppodigital.com .
Thank you Big,
Know of any place I could buy the Oppo 103D for less than $600?
Where abouts are you in Ohio. I grew up in Bay Village.

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