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To whom this concerns,

Our background

My wife and I were married on 4-20-2013 in Pensacola, Fl in my Moms front yard. We moved to Houghton Lake, MI in October of 2013 after selling our old house. She wanted to be closer to her family and we intended to either buy an old house or have one made for us, like a manufactured house or something. However since Houghton Lake has about 3,427 people and it was October of 2013 the only place that would rent to us was a trailer park that had a 1962 Buddy trailer that was 8 x 40. So now its me and the wife and our 2 dogs about 30 pounds each. It was also the worst winter in 30 years according to the locals. When your from the south you can imagine how cold it was is now here.

Our plans

We originally wanted to buy a house here but the market is tricky. Most homes are circa 1950's to 1970's and can go as high as 500,000 due to factors like access to a lake. We want a new house badly. We think a manufactured house would be most beneficial to us since the wife is picky about things.

For example, she wants a "coffered ceiling ", along with " wainscoting " that is a particular color and so on and on. I am sure there's more but that's the general look she is going for.

Because she is picky it would seem reasonable to have a house built for her instead of buy and then renovate to her tastes. We also would save a huge amount we believe.

Our needs

So we are curious as to whether people like us can ask experts like you if its possible to have both a dedicated theater room built into a manufactured house from the designer or company as well as having them also design a whole house for mine wife as well.

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So we need to know if this is a good idea for both our new home and our new theater room.

Then we need a list of recommended builders that service Houghton Lake, Michigan.

Then we need to get a list of quotes and plans from these people.

At this point it becomes a matter of posting the plans and gathering feedback from this community and making appropriate changes.

Then its on the the bank for financing.

Then its time for enjoyment.

Personal Notes

I am trying my best to understand mine wifes needs as best as i can to interpret them to you. I fail at explaining things, but i can try. So forgive me if i over-explain things. And again thank you in advance for all your thoughts and suggestions.

Sincerely,

The Lyons Family
Samantha (Wife) and Michael (Husband)
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When you say "manufactured house," do you mean "mostly built off-site in a factory?" Or do you mean "custom built on site?"

Many home-builders have plans they build routinely that incorporate "media rooms" or other "bonus rooms" that can be used for home theaters. Often these home-builders offer significant savings over from-scratch custom builders, but they are unwilling to deviate from their plans.

Depending on your specific expectations, any of the above can be a fine solution. What we can do for you at this point is help you choose the path that fits your budget and make sure your expectations are aligned with what you are getting.

Have you seen theaters here that match your expectations for size and aesthetics? Have you thought through your usage patterns to assess your interest in built-in features, like soundproofing, or integration of whole-home control systems? We need some details about what you want (including the timeline you require).

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To HopefulAFred,

I had to double check your question and it seems i am in error and for that i must apologize.

My wife and I are looking for:

Modular Homes

Modular homes are residences constructed entirely in factories and transported to their sites on flatbed trucks. They are built under controlled conditions, and must meet strict quality-control requirements before they are delivered. They arrive as block segments and are neatly assembled, using cranes, into homes that are almost indistinguishable from comparable ones built on-site. Wind and rain do not cause construction delays or warp building materials. In addition, modular homes:

We also contacted:

http://www.genhouse.com/twostorycatalog.shtml

And saw the:

http://www.genhouse.com/website_brochure/2-story/13140f1b.pdf

This is kinda the modular home we are seeking. For clarity let me double check with the wife. She wants:

at least a 2 story, 3 bedrooms or more, 2 bathrooms or more, Garage for the car, Full Basement if possible, a 1950's kitchen, and last but most important the ability to pick out the choices for any options in the home. For example, she wants to pick the color of the walls, the cabinets, and so on. She wants to be able to have as much creative control as possible.

We know there are other modular home builders that can build us a home but we do not know of their reputation and seek your opinion as to whether they are trustworthy and how best to proceed

Have you seen theaters here that match your expectations for size and aesthetics?

We want the modular home builder to put the dedicated theater room in the basement, but since they are the ones to put it there it becomes crucial in picking out the best Modular Home Builder. My wife wants coffered ceilings, wainscoting, and a general antique old world look and feel for the theatre and because its in the basement it will have a full bar, a kitchen, and take up most of the basement we believe.

Have you thought through your usage patterns to assess your interest in built-in features, like soundproofing, or integration of whole-home control systems?

We do not know about any of what your referring to but would love more information on it as possible. We know that since this is our first home we will have the theater room in the basement, as well as other tvs around the house and probably the back yard, so we want as much control over the house as possible

We need some details about what you want (including the timeline you require).

We believe this post has clearly defined our vision and our timeline is at least 1 year or more away which gives us plenty of time for planning and so on.

Again thanks to all of you for your cause and concern

The Lyons Family,
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Let us rephrase and ask a few new questions...

If a modular home builder builds us a dedicated theater room, in a full basement, is there a person we could hire to give us tips to upgrade the room? My wife believes that the modular home builder would not know anything about audio and visual technology (they are not sound specialists) and we want to know if we need 2 separate builders for this project, - one for the construction of the home and another for the dedicated theater room.

Also, to make it more complicated, the modular home builders we have seen so far can create a house in a wide variety of conditions. This means that for example they can build us a shell house which is just the exterior walls and interior walls but no drywall or plumbing, or electrical or really anything is installed because its a shell. Is this what people would recommend for creating a dream home with a dedicated theater room?

The wife doesn't like having to hire 3 to 10 or more contractors to build our dream home and we would like to know how to hire the least amount of people in order to build this. We need to know some kind of plan to attack this problem.

We also need to know if this is the right forum for the construction of the home we are planning.

As far as tips go we need to know everything since we know next to nothing about this subject

Things like speaker placement, placement for our theater chair risers to get the best sound/view of the screen, etc., are the kind of tips we would be looking for from an audio professional. Since the home is not built yet, we don't know the size or shape of the room. We know that certain sets of speakers are good for different sized rooms (we already have a few we are interested in), but we would need someone to come see the room before my wife and I start putting seats down, concession stands, cool neon or light signs, etc. Unless we got someone to install these along with someone who can hide the wires after speaker installation.

If we could figure out who could help us, when the time comes, then we could be more prepared for such a large project. Thank you for your help in advance.

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Michael, You're not getting a lot of feedback here for two reasons, I think: first, we don't know anything about modular homes; second, questions like yours are too broad.

I appreciate that the whole process is daunting; you've come to this process as a means to an end. For many of us who post here regularly (probably most), this is a hobby. We spend months and years reading and learning and planning, and the path itself is part of the enjoyment. We each make personal decisions in planning, based on our own priorities and preferences - our family arrangements and the resources we have at our disposal (including time and money). Some of the builds here are part of million-dollar homes, with the theater budget to match, while many others are strung together over years with discretionary income (like mine). And there are those with virtually no budget, where a remnant of carpet and a gallon of paint are enough to make a room into a theater.

Knowing what I know about modular homes (virtually nothing), my personal approach would be to get an unfinished basement into the property. Many of the builds here are projects to finish basements, so that's familiar to us. If you have access to the electrical, ventilation, and plumbing infrastructures, you can add onto them to finish a basement whatever way you like. I see that this will be less attractive to you and your wife, as it seems you would like a "turn key" solution (meaning that the project is handed to you completed). That can be had, but the budget is usually much higher. I imagine that you would also like to finance the theater along with the rest of the home, so that makes my approach less attractive again.

If you are to find a home theater professional, I'd suggest you inquire with a few of the nearest CEDIA members: http://www.cedia.org/find-a-cedia-professional/search Quite possibly, there are some in the vacinity (I know there are some within 100 miles or so - I see your location is fairly remote). These professionals may have experience with modular homes, and will also have experience working alongside professional contractors on turn key solutions. You might also contact AVS sales to speak with them about a design service they offer; it's very affordable at the basic level, but budgets can seem to balloon - it's hard for a professional to develop a product he isn't proud of, so the standards are set very high and the pricing for the required materials can get high as well.

Should that prove impractical or impossible, we can offer you encouragement and tips while you build it yourself, but you'll need specific plans to move forward with.
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A Manufactured home can also imply a Log Cabin.  Looking at realtor.com.  There are all kinds of listing for homes in the area.  Quite a few that would make a decent place for not only play during the Summer.  But during the Winter would allow you to camp out watching movies, etc..  The hardest part is that the area you live in now.  Depends on Tourism dollars.  Most of the places as you know are either passed on generation to generation.  Or are only for Winter or Summer months.

 

Sit down with a Realtor and give them a dollar figure.  Also give them some examples from what is available in your area on Realtor.com.   Zillow.com does not give you good estimates.  But it does allow you to narrow down where you want to be.

 

You will find not living on a lake less of a hassle tax wise.  But if you go to sell the place.  You will find that it is harder to get a buyer.  Especially if you invest everything into entertainment value inside.  Not for pleasure and relaxation inside and out.

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