Originally Posted by cranster
The fact that I have to ask people to repeat themselves about 5 times is an indication my hearing might not be so great anymore either.
<- Tinnitus checking in.
Fawk Tinnitus. Just fock it.
It really sucks hearing ringing instead of quiet and my sensation for sound is reduced. I was tested last in 2012 and although I am only 36 my hearing is the lower range of normal. I can still hear well enough to enjoy music and movies but I try to take extra precaution when working with power tools or mowing the lawn, or motocross. I bought an inexpensive pair of Klipsch S4i headphones (earbuds) because they do an outstanding job at blocking out sound with a tight fit and a sound blocking design and now I wear them when I mow the lawn or work with powertools (loud ones). The one killer for me is my crap harbor freight air compressor- that thing is obnoxious and I use it often enough it's very annoying.
Circling back to the original point I wanted to make before I ran on a tangent- Proper audio equipment and even more important proper set up, and even more important than that proper treated and designed room - really will make it easier to hear and more enjoyable. I originally thought that because I didn't have great hearing above 17khz and I had Tinnitus it might not matter for sound proofing or room treatments or going the extra mile but really it matters even more. The easiest way to hear better and more clear is a good room IMO. If your noise floor is 45db you might need to watch at 115db to get the full dynamic range, but lower your noise floor to 20db and you can now watch at 95db and enjoy full dynamic range. Even more importantly, you can watch at 70db and hear most everything in the better room too. Treating for reflections and echo and bass nulls also means hearing more, and not having to play so loud.
Step into a cathedral peak room with hardwood or tile floors and lots of windows without much rugs or curtains and clap your hands, then go clap them in a room with carpet, and drapes and curtains. It's a big difference. The local bar just installed acoustic ceiling tile absorbers and wall absorbers and also installed heavy curtains around the windows and I can now hear conversation in there. Before it was just clutter. Bad hearing is often the result of not being able to differentiate one sound from another, or perceive the difference in loudness from multiple sounds. That makes it hard to hear conversation in a noisy place as an example. I have this. But in a great room I can hear everything- and when I just went to see Godzilla in the theater I noticed how great it sounded and the localization of the sound. The room is the key, but certainly with the right room and right set up you will enjoy ATMOS or any other form of object localization even with bad hearing.
Originally Posted by zuluwalker
Patience, but not moderation though eh?
I suck equally with patience as I do with moderation. It's easier to give advice than take it.
If I could actually afford a new AVR with ATMOS to replace my not old enough yet Denon 11.2 AVR I am not even using height or wides with yet, I'd probably do it. But the matter is being decided for me, my checkbook is made from rubber now that I have twins and wifey isn't working.
Originally Posted by thebland
I wonder if the ceiling speakers will need to reach reference level???
I would think so. The mixers would mix it at the volume they want you to experience it. So if it's not the volume of reference they wouldn't mix it that loud. But using a speaker that's far below the others in capabilities or output might not get the proper result. Not at full reference or great volume anyways...