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Light or dark front wall?

Hi, I am going to add black velvet on the side walls and ceiling around the canvas, but not sure if I should add black velvet on the front wall (projector screen wall), or if I should go for a lighter color here?

Perceived black level is excellent illustrated by the picture below, where a lighter background gives an illusion of better black levels. My projector is BenQ W1300, and since we are talking about a budget projector with just medium black levels, I want to optimise the room for better black levels.

I will probably pick either Jumbo corduroy (in light color) or black velvet behind the canvas, based on what we conclude in this thread.

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Black velvet on front wall Pros/cons
+ Image will "float" in the room
- The eyes get a better reference point, therefore black levels will be worse

Lighter color on front wall Pros/cons
+ Perceived black level on the canvas will be better
- The picture will not "float" in the room the same way as a black velvet background

Illustration of my room (red area will be covered with black velvet)
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Pretty much everyone tries to make the front wall as dark as possible, that should give a good hint about what's best.
If the SWMBO is not a problem, I'd go with a black front wall.
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Im going to put black velvet on my screen wall for sure as others have said its the best option.

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Will the room be otherwise dark? (Well light-controlled) if yes; then black. If no, bias lighting might be a good choice - at least worth considering.
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Will the room be otherwise dark? (Well light-controlled) if yes; then black. If no, bias lighting might be a good choice - at least worth considering.
Hi, the room is egg-white, that is why I am adding 1 meter of black velvet on the side walls and ceiling surrounding the projector screen, see picture for illustration. The window is totally blacked out, so the only light in the room would be reflection from where the walls are not covered in black velvet.
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Black.
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Agreed. Love my black velvet front wall.
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Agreed. Love my black velvet front wall.
Would you recommend covering up the skirting boards, or would that not be necessary?
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What do you think?
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cover the base boards.
I'm not a fan of the white cover on your retractable screen either. nothing a can or spray paint couldn't fix.
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I'll be putting dark skirting boards back on soon. White would look a little silly with dark walls

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I would paint the baseboards and the screen cover a flat black, or black with as little shine as possible. Of course I'm a little biased towards the screen floating in a sea of black...

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I would paint the baseboards and the screen cover a flat black, or black with as little shine as possible. Of course I'm a little biased towards the screen floating in a sea of black...


This is ideal. I was going to post a photo of my screen wall, but it looks pretty much just like this.

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This is ideal. I was going to post a photo of my screen wall, but it looks pretty much just like this.
I am making my own DIY fixed screen, but since I am going to cover the background in black velvet, does that mean that I really don't need to cover the actual frame with velvet?
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I would - if you need to overscan onto the frame, it will look much better. Don't forget Protostar material in your arsenal of black materials - that might work well on a DIY frame.

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I am making my own DIY fixed screen, but since I am going to cover the background in black velvet, does that mean that I really don't need to cover the actual frame with velvet?
I would cover the frame as well. What are you going to use for your screen material?
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I would cover the frame as well. What are you going to use for your screen material?
So I am using triple black velvet from syfabrics for the side walls, ceiling, back wall and frame. Screen material is Carls flexigray material.
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