Color Changing Coffered Ceiling Room - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 4Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 56 Old 05-26-2015, 01:29 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Post Color Changing Coffered Ceiling Room

Hi everyone, I've moved to a new house and started a new room. After adding 3 more soffits to balance out the room, I couldn't decide on a way to finish the ceiling that would still allow me to access stuff later. Who knows what the surround format wars will bring! So I decided on a drop ceiling using a standard 2x2 grid and tiles from www.ceilume.com. (btw, those guys are great!)

Anyway, the entire room is 16'x24' with the drop ceiling area 12'x18'. The ceiling grid is standard Armstrong from Lowes and ceiling tiles are Ceilume 2x2 translucent Westminster tiles. Lighting is from 6" cans that were there from the builder with Philips HUE bulbs. I've added some pics to get feedback and show my progress...

More to come soon/On the drawing board...
- New PJ and Screen (replacing Epson 8350 and Carada 110" - thinking JVC X500R and ST158")
- Screen wall with hacked Ikea Besta storage units with fabric wrapped doors.
- Chair rail with some type of wall covering. (Taking votes on panels or curtains.)
- Seating (replacing 4 Berline 090's w/ Dark Blue bonded - had too many kids!)

Current Gear
- Power = Belkin PureAV Theater surge protector
- AVR = Pioneer SC-85
- Sources = FiOS and Oppo BD-103D (Thinking about Plex?)
- Speakers = Polk RTi70 Towers, CSi40 Center, FXi30 Surrounds, playing with Atrium 4s for Atmos/Backs, Velodyne 12" (Looking for replacements)
- Control = Logitech Ultimate Home w iPad Mini


Anyway, here's to getting your feedback and input.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Drop Ceiling Lights off.jpg
Views:	682
Size:	111.9 KB
ID:	738665   Click image for larger version

Name:	Drop Ceiling Lights On.jpg
Views:	618
Size:	101.2 KB
ID:	738673   Click image for larger version

Name:	Drop Ceiling Red.jpg
Views:	659
Size:	150.4 KB
ID:	738681   Click image for larger version

Name:	Drop Ceiling Purple.jpg
Views:	583
Size:	111.2 KB
ID:	738689  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling

Last edited by bpassman; 05-26-2015 at 01:41 PM.
bpassman is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 56 Old 06-08-2015, 06:32 AM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Finished installing the ceiling grid, leveling and popped in all the tiles. Btw, it took much longer than I thought to level out the grid. Add some shots with lights off, on, and some odd Hue multi-color setting.

Room layout is still up in the air, I like it 24x16 (short) to maximize the width and options for max people without needing a riser; but know that 16x24 (long) will provide better surround placement and will need a riser. Thoughts? Ideally need to seats 8.

Also taped off 158" diag 2.35:1, part of me thinks it's a little big (wait, did I really say that?).

And temporarily put my old Berkline 090s and old Polks and Ikea storage in place.

Oh, and ignore the hanging sheets (thanks for the idea Steve); they're my temp wall and imaginary barn doors.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_1281_1024.jpg
Views:	327
Size:	145.0 KB
ID:	763129   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_1282_1024.jpg
Views:	331
Size:	196.6 KB
ID:	763137   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_1283_1024.jpg
Views:	327
Size:	135.7 KB
ID:	763145   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_1284_1024.jpg
Views:	318
Size:	172.0 KB
ID:	763153   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_1285_1024.jpg
Views:	322
Size:	173.6 KB
ID:	763161  

Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_1294_1024.jpg
Views:	336
Size:	148.5 KB
ID:	763169   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_1293_1024.jpg
Views:	409
Size:	155.2 KB
ID:	763177   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_1289_1024.jpg
Views:	369
Size:	175.7 KB
ID:	763185  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #3 of 56 Old 06-08-2015, 11:47 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 14,213
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3455 Post(s)
Liked: 2527
Interesting...

How much space is there between the can lights and the translucent ceiling tiles? I would think a more diffuse light source would look better.
Stereodude is offline  
 
post #4 of 56 Old 06-08-2015, 06:01 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
Interesting...

How much space is there between the can lights and the translucent ceiling tiles? I would think a more diffuse light source would look better.
The can lights are standard 6in cans that were pre-existing. The bulbs are the original HUE lamps (UPC or EAN No.: 046677426361) and there's about 7 inches between the ceiling and the tiles. With the brightness all the way up, they are very hot and don't diffuse much. I've thought LED strips might be a better choice around the perimeter and will try it with the 1 strip I have this week. Honestly, part of me likes it even though its novel and I turn them all out when watching anything.

My real concern with the translucent tiles are what they look like with the PJ on; that testing will be about a week from now.

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #5 of 56 Old 06-27-2015, 01:43 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpassman View Post
Finished installing the ceiling grid, leveling and popped in all the tiles. Btw, it took much longer than I thought to level out the grid. Add some shots with lights off, on, and some odd Hue multi-color setting.

Room layout is still up in the air, I like it 24x16 (short) to maximize the width and options for max people without needing a riser; but know that 16x24 (long) will provide better surround placement and will need a riser. Thoughts? Ideally need to seats 8.

Also taped off 158" diag 2.35:1, part of me thinks it's a little big (wait, did I really say that?).

And temporarily put my old Berkline 090s and old Polks and Ikea storage in place.

Oh, and ignore the hanging sheets (thanks for the idea Steve); they're my temp wall and imaginary barn doors.
Ok, I'm back from Orlando and going to Infocom 2015! Cool event and lots of interesting AV and IT gear. Not much more progress, but I did manage to tape out 2 walls and cutout some foam to represent some potential inwall speakers.

3rd pic still has sheets instead of wall and barn doors. And if you look close enough, you'll see part of a foam bar I built to visualize the future.


Any thoughts or opinions?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1906.jpg
Views:	245
Size:	118.1 KB
ID:	798850   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1902.jpg
Views:	270
Size:	123.0 KB
ID:	798858   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1909.jpg
Views:	224
Size:	131.4 KB
ID:	798866  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #6 of 56 Old 07-02-2015, 08:02 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpassman View Post
Ok, I'm back from Orlando and going to Infocom 2015! Cool event and lots of interesting AV and IT gear. Not much more progress, but I did manage to tape out 2 walls and cutout some foam to represent some potential inwall speakers.

3rd pic still has sheets instead of wall and barn doors. And if you look close enough, you'll see part of a foam bar I built to visualize the future.


Any thoughts or opinions?

Ok, I'm looking for some feedback on a couple of layout options.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Opt 2.jpg
Views:	207
Size:	63.6 KB
ID:	809474   Click image for larger version

Name:	Opt 3.jpg
Views:	209
Size:	65.0 KB
ID:	809482   Click image for larger version

Name:	Opt 4.jpg
Views:	199
Size:	79.6 KB
ID:	809490   Click image for larger version

Name:	Opt 6.jpg
Views:	232
Size:	86.2 KB
ID:	809498  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #7 of 56 Old 07-13-2015, 03:46 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpassman View Post
Ok, I'm looking for some feedback on a couple of layout options.
Really, no feedback?

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #8 of 56 Old 07-13-2015, 05:16 PM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 14,213
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3455 Post(s)
Liked: 2527
This forum is going to favor the 2 rows of seats. It's obviously up to you what you think will work best.
Stereodude is offline  
post #9 of 56 Old 07-14-2015, 09:14 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Waterboy77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 1,444
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 573 Post(s)
Liked: 288
Personally I prefer a chair to a couch but like @Stereodude said it's a personal preference.
The long layout looks better and gives you more separation from your rear surrounds
Tough to tell but what are your seating distances in the long layout?

One day I will start the new theater....... one day..... THAT DAY HAS ARRIVED
"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." Red Green
Family Cave Theater
Automation Thoughts/ Questions
Waterboy77 is offline  
post #10 of 56 Old 07-19-2015, 04:34 AM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterboy77 View Post
Personally I prefer a chair to a couch but like @Stereodude said it's a personal preference.
The long layout looks better and gives you more separation from your rear surrounds
Tough to tell but what are your seating distances in the long layout?
Yeah, I'm having a hard time deciding. The room is currently setup in the long layout (screen on right side wall). The room is 16x22, and the first row is about 9ft from the 140" 16:9 screen. Dolby Atmos 5.1.4 sounds great in this layout due to the separation of channels.

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #11 of 56 Old 07-19-2015, 09:27 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
thebland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Detroit, Michigan USA
Posts: 25,765
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1676 Post(s)
Liked: 1012
Curious about this topic, too. Have a Grafik Eye (3106)

I have an outlet that my current rope lighting plugs into that is one zone of my Grafik-Eye. It is set up to dim.

So, what do I need to get a rope light that changes color and are rope lights dimmable and OK for use on a Grafik-Eye?

Thanks!

Goodbye to a great audio and video genius and writer... JOHN GANNON. I enjoyed your friendship, wit and a nice long run we took around Indianapolis at CEDIA years back... and for buying my Runco 980 Ultra years back... you saved my ass! Rest in peace.
thebland is offline  
post #12 of 56 Old 07-19-2015, 03:54 PM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 14,213
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3455 Post(s)
Liked: 2527
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebland View Post
So, what do I need to get a rope light that changes color and are rope lights dimmable and OK for use on a Grafik-Eye?
I'm not sure that's a possibility. Pretty much all the color changing "rope" light I've seen is low voltage LED strips and requires a special controller. I don't know how you could interface that to a Grafik-Eye. Connecting it to a Phillips HUE system is possible though.
Stereodude is offline  
post #13 of 56 Old 07-19-2015, 06:38 PM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
thebland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Detroit, Michigan USA
Posts: 25,765
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1676 Post(s)
Liked: 1012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
I'm not sure that's a possibility. Pretty much all the color changing "rope" light I've seen is low voltage LED strips and requires a special controller. I don't know how you could interface that to a Grafik-Eye. Connecting it to a Phillips HUE system is possible though.
Thanks. Note that the outlet itself is one zone of the Grafik Eye. Plug the transformer in and go??.. Still possible?

Thanks!

Goodbye to a great audio and video genius and writer... JOHN GANNON. I enjoyed your friendship, wit and a nice long run we took around Indianapolis at CEDIA years back... and for buying my Runco 980 Ultra years back... you saved my ass! Rest in peace.
thebland is offline  
post #14 of 56 Old 07-19-2015, 07:06 PM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 14,213
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3455 Post(s)
Liked: 2527
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebland View Post
Thanks. Note that the outlet itself is one zone of the Grafik Eye. Plug the transformer in and go??.. Still possible?
That's not how the various strings I'm familiar with work. They use PWM dimming on each of the three RGB channels with a constant DC voltage. Or, each LED is individually addressable and RGB data is shifted to them from a microcontroller. Reducing the voltage to the power supply won't dim the LEDs.
Stereodude is offline  
post #15 of 56 Old 07-24-2015, 08:45 AM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Updates

I bought new speakers for the theater and posted about my buying experience in the speakers forum as TruAudio B23-465s Rock! They're awesome and I've been moving them around the room while thinking about which layout I like the best.

I've also been reviewing the forums and some links that Big sent me for wall panels. I like the idea of building panels and have come up with the attached concept.

For the side walls, I was thinking of building upper and lower panels separated by a rail with some LEDs. The panels would be typical 1x2s with acoustic material and fabric.

For the front wall, I was thing about floor to ceiling panels with 1x4s built to hold the in wall speakers and acoustic materials and facbric (except where the speakers are) and then a AT screen in front of those panels on Z clips.

Thoughts, dos' and don'ts?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Theater Wall Ideas.jpg
Views:	186
Size:	55.1 KB
ID:	847098  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #16 of 56 Old 12-05-2015, 02:38 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpassman View Post
Updates

I bought new speakers for the theater and posted about my buying experience in the speakers forum as TruAudio B23-465s Rock! They're awesome and I've been moving them around the room while thinking about which layout I like the best.

I've also been reviewing the forums and some links that Big sent me for wall panels. I like the idea of building panels and have come up with the attached concept.

For the side walls, I was thinking of building upper and lower panels separated by a rail with some LEDs. The panels would be typical 1x2s with acoustic material and fabric.

For the front wall, I was thing about floor to ceiling panels with 1x4s built to hold the in wall speakers and acoustic materials and facbric (except where the speakers are) and then a AT screen in front of those panels on Z clips.

Thoughts, dos' and don'ts?
Ok, I've decided to do 2 rows and not do sectionals. I've updated the drawing with my latest idea. 21' Throw using JVC X750R on a 160" 2.35 AT Screen. First row 9' from screen, Second row 15'. I've used the Theater planning spreadsheet from Carlton Bale and I think everything will work. Thoughts?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Screen Shot 2015-12-05 at 5.32.48 PM.png
Views:	183
Size:	61.6 KB
ID:	1100114   Click image for larger version

Name:	Screen Shot 2015-12-05 at 5.37.28 PM.png
Views:	153
Size:	210.7 KB
ID:	1100130   Click image for larger version

Name:	Screen Shot 2015-12-05 at 5.37.57 PM.png
Views:	161
Size:	142.9 KB
ID:	1100138  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #17 of 56 Old 12-31-2015, 05:42 AM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Column or Panel to cover window?

Ok, now that I've decided to arrange the room in the best layout, with 2 rows of seats and a riser. I have a new problem that I'd like some advice on. What do you think the best method/layout would be for the side speakers? As you can see, the room has a window. In the theater room image column image below, I drew two ideas.

Idea 1 (Upper wall with Window) - build 2 wall columns with scones. hide the window behind a fabric wall panel. install the speaker in the wall and hide behind a fabric wall panel.

Idea 2 (Lower wall no Window) - similar to the Martin Logan demo room at CEDIA2015, build a single wide column with the speaker inside that would hide the window, with two side panels led lit from the back.

Note, the speakers are TruAudio B23 in walls with their own enclosures.

I've also added a pic of the entire basement so you get the feel of the flow/layout. And I've decided to go with new Fusion seating to maximize the number of seats. They have some great options that aren't super wide.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Entire Basement Layout.png
Views:	160
Size:	88.1 KB
ID:	1152858   Click image for larger version

Name:	Theater Room Column Options.png
Views:	150
Size:	62.1 KB
ID:	1152866  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #18 of 56 Old 01-02-2016, 01:00 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Front wall acoustic options?

I've build some frames for the front LCRs and will have about 21" of space behind them. I did a search on "screen+wall+acoustics" and looked through the acoustic treatment thread. Please help me figure out the best treatment for the wall behind the front LCRs. Note, the wall is already finished, poured concrete, 2x4 framed, 1/2 drywall with R19 insulation. I assume that some simple bass traps in the corners and some 1-2" foam or materials from acoustimac would work?

Also, how are most people getting their insulation black?

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #19 of 56 Old 01-10-2016, 04:41 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpassman View Post
I've build some frames for the front LCRs and will have about 21" of space behind them. I did a search on "screen+wall+acoustics" and looked through the acoustic treatment thread. Please help me figure out the best treatment for the wall behind the front LCRs. Note, the wall is already finished, poured concrete, 2x4 framed, 1/2 drywall with R19 insulation. I assume that some simple bass traps in the corners and some 1-2" foam or materials from acoustimac would work?

Also, how are most people getting their insulation black?
Anyone? No? Ok, we'll I've made some minor progress and picked up a new years gift. Out with 2015 and the Velodyne CT-100 I've had for a very long time; and in with dual SVS PC-2000s! Still NIB and will try and get to them soon, but I've made some progress on designing a screen wall and figured out it's just big enough to hide the rack. Minor progress pics below.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3795_1024.jpg
Views:	180
Size:	223.0 KB
ID:	1176794   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3799_1024.jpg
Views:	181
Size:	159.0 KB
ID:	1176802   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3812_1024.jpg
Views:	253
Size:	161.4 KB
ID:	1176810  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #20 of 56 Old 01-10-2016, 04:57 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Screen wall pics or drawings with a door integrated

Anyone have some pics or drawings of a screen wall with an integrated door to hide equipment? I only have 23" of depth to work with and about 30" on each side of the screen. The pic below shows to speaker frames to hold the LCRs. Primary Screen frame posts not there yet, and I just received my Acoustimac fabric samples. Thoughts?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3799_1024.jpg
Views:	123
Size:	159.0 KB
ID:	1176946  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #21 of 56 Old 01-10-2016, 08:42 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
More minor Updates

Adding some pics of projected 140" using my current Epson 8350 before screen wall framing. Rough adjustments atm.
Lights on, Lights off comparison.
Tweeter height, slightly higher that recommended 42".
Aprox 122" wide, speaker columns will be just inside screen area and set back about 6".
Aprox 21" from floor.
Aprox 3" from bottom of soffit. Note, the back wall will be treated and soffit painted black.
And yes, my new SVS subs are still in the box
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3820_1024.jpg
Views:	203
Size:	182.3 KB
ID:	1177426   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3819_1024.jpg
Views:	188
Size:	160.4 KB
ID:	1177434   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3826_1024.jpg
Views:	172
Size:	188.9 KB
ID:	1177442   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3827_1024.jpg
Views:	147
Size:	174.9 KB
ID:	1177450   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3828_1024.jpg
Views:	157
Size:	147.3 KB
ID:	1177458  

Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3829_1024.jpg
Views:	147
Size:	149.5 KB
ID:	1177466  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #22 of 56 Old 01-14-2016, 09:35 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpassman View Post
Anyone? No? Ok, we'll I've made some minor progress and picked up a new years gift. Out with 2015 and the Velodyne CT-100 I've had for a very long time; and in with dual SVS PC-2000s! Still NIB and will try and get to them soon, but I've made some progress on designing a screen wall and figured out it's just big enough to hide the rack. Minor progress pics below.
Adding un-boxing pics of the SVS PC-2000s. Love the duals.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3833_1024.jpg
Views:	110
Size:	215.6 KB
ID:	1185418   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3836_1024.jpg
Views:	100
Size:	183.8 KB
ID:	1185426   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3838_1024.jpg
Views:	108
Size:	205.0 KB
ID:	1185434   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3840_1024.jpg
Views:	110
Size:	189.5 KB
ID:	1185442   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3841_1024.jpg
Views:	105
Size:	195.6 KB
ID:	1185450  

Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3845_1024.jpg
Views:	112
Size:	318.8 KB
ID:	1185458   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3846_1024.jpg
Views:	111
Size:	233.1 KB
ID:	1185466   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3850_1024.jpg
Views:	124
Size:	162.9 KB
ID:	1185474  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #23 of 56 Old 01-17-2016, 01:47 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Cool LCR Speaker Frames

A little more progress this weekend. As expected the location for the speakers were exactly where the existing studs were located. So I build some frames to hold the speakers. The frames are 1"x4"s grade A pine.

Each frame is 2'x8', done with Kregg pocket holes and wood glue. I've added 1/2" MDF to the center section to mount the InWall Speakers. MDF panels are 24"x 40.5" and glued and nailed to the frame. Speaker cutouts were done with the TruAudio supplied templates, centered on the panels.

Decided on Rustoleum Flat Black for the frames. 2 coats, 24hr drying and now the frames have the speakers installed, and the frames are wedged between the floor and soffit, with a screw into the wall stud for security.

Couple of pics, including me trying to figure out how BIG is TOO Big?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3865_1024.jpg
Views:	134
Size:	235.7 KB
ID:	1191090   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3864_1024.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	250.8 KB
ID:	1191098   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3872_1024.jpg
Views:	133
Size:	151.9 KB
ID:	1191106   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3873_1024.jpg
Views:	132
Size:	192.3 KB
ID:	1191114   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3876_1024.jpg
Views:	137
Size:	203.3 KB
ID:	1191122  

Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3877_1024.jpg
Views:	143
Size:	169.6 KB
ID:	1191130   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3883_1024.jpg
Views:	132
Size:	165.6 KB
ID:	1191138   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3885_1024.jpg
Views:	139
Size:	216.5 KB
ID:	1191146   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3879_1024.jpg
Views:	144
Size:	158.6 KB
ID:	1191154   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3892_1024.jpg
Views:	159
Size:	169.8 KB
ID:	1191162  

Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_3894_1024.jpg
Views:	158
Size:	191.5 KB
ID:	1191170  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #24 of 56 Old 02-02-2016, 05:12 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
New PJ Ordered - RS500

Quick update, ordered a new JVC RS500 from Mike at AVS. Outstanding sales support, price and return policy. The eagerness and pain of watching my Epson 8350 is now killing me.

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #25 of 56 Old 02-07-2016, 10:42 AM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
It's here! Finally made it back from Boston to do the unboxing. Here are some pics.

Great packing, box in a box with bubble wrap and peanuts.
Serial number starts with 17, so its one of the newer ones!
Old and New side by sides.

Now to read the details of the manual and those really long treads on calibration/setup and the calibration software.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_4044_1024.jpg
Views:	106
Size:	254.5 KB
ID:	1236545   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_4049_1024.jpg
Views:	104
Size:	161.5 KB
ID:	1236553   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_4068_1024.jpg
Views:	186
Size:	211.2 KB
ID:	1236561  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #26 of 56 Old 02-07-2016, 10:47 AM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Bar Stools - Costco Find

After hanging my JVC RS500 and playing with screen sizes, I've decided not to do a riser for the 2nd row due to eyesight and image throw. Instead, I'm going to do a pit sectional with bar/stools. Found these cool bar stools at Costco today for under $150 each. Comfortable, height adjustable and felt great. Note: for guests and kids.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_4081_1024.jpg
Views:	105
Size:	229.4 KB
ID:	1236569   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_4082_1024.jpg
Views:	82
Size:	231.1 KB
ID:	1236577  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #27 of 56 Old 02-07-2016, 10:47 AM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpassman View Post
After hanging my JVC RS500 and playing with screen sizes, I've decided not to do a riser for the 2nd row due to eyesight and image throw. Instead, I'm going to do a pit sectional with bar/stools. Found these cool bar stools at Costco today for under $150 each. Comfortable, height adjustable and felt great. Note: for guests and kids.
Updated layout
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 1.43.54 PM.png
Views:	121
Size:	60.6 KB
ID:	1236593  
Bagua likes this.

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #28 of 56 Old 02-08-2016, 09:11 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
bass addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: A padded room
Posts: 4,426
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 451 Post(s)
Liked: 510
Coming together nicely. The SVS's bring back memories. My first "real" sub was a pair of 16-46pc+'s back in the day. My wife was a real trooper allowing two water heaters to hang around in the living room.
bpassman likes this.

Achievement Unlocked

Psychotic Episode Averted

bass addict is offline  
post #29 of 56 Old 02-21-2016, 01:23 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpassman View Post
Updated layout
Ok, so before I commit and build the back wall with the AV Rack integrated and run all the cables..I wanted to see what might be possible with a couple of Ikea Besta bookcases. integrated into the front wall. Inspiration from Big's front wall hidden behind panels. I can still get a 140" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex screen between the two cases, and think it would be easy to build some black fabric doors/frames for the cases. Easy equipment storage, and lots of movie storage. There's about 6' behind the cases, which I plan on putting 2" wedge foam acoustic squares on. Here's some pics. Thoughts?

Front wall, no spandex
Front wall, gray spandex only
View of Room.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_4110_1024.jpg
Views:	136
Size:	165.1 KB
ID:	1269481   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_4111_1024.jpg
Views:	184
Size:	158.1 KB
ID:	1269489   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_4113_1024.jpg
Views:	137
Size:	179.6 KB
ID:	1269497  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
post #30 of 56 Old 04-11-2016, 05:51 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
bpassman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Liked: 55
Cool April 2016 Update

Wow, my last post was October 2015? Crap time has flown by and I have not made enough progress....thanks to work, wife, life and kids. Anyway, I've broken down all the gear to finish the major construction and finish the drywall and corner beads.

After much debate on where to put the equipment, I decided to put a rack in the back of the room integrated into the back wall and visible from the bar area. Thanks to everyone who posted pics in the multiple Show me your Racks threads!

I've framed up one side of the rear wall, with a rough in for the equipment rack. Should I frame a 24" opening and then build up the inside frame with a custom door? Or just build it to size? Feedback needed, so I can finalize the studs and shoot the base plate into the concrete and the secure the top plate with some hurricane hangers to the soffit which is secured to a joist.

I'm framing a 4ft opening for sliding barn doors. Not because they're the rage, but because they don't take up space in the theater or the bar area. Still not decided on style, but they will be solid wood, not a composite slab.

Pics:
  • Couple of the front wall with screen removed, LCRs in their false wall frames and the 2 SVS Subs.
  • Couple looking back toward the rear wall with rack, and some of the backside of that wall.
  • 1 of the work area in a different part of the basement. Or otherwise known as a future project. :0
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_5030_1024.jpg
Views:	95
Size:	149.3 KB
ID:	1373130   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_5033_1024.jpg
Views:	98
Size:	136.6 KB
ID:	1373138   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_5034_1024.jpg
Views:	91
Size:	177.8 KB
ID:	1373146   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_5035_1024.jpg
Views:	87
Size:	186.9 KB
ID:	1373154   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_5036_1024.jpg
Views:	101
Size:	185.4 KB
ID:	1373162  

Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_5037_1024.jpg
Views:	105
Size:	224.6 KB
ID:	1373170   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_5038_1024.jpg
Views:	101
Size:	166.3 KB
ID:	1373178   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_5039_1024.jpg
Views:	93
Size:	141.4 KB
ID:	1373186   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumb_IMG_5042_1024.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	217.1 KB
ID:	1373194  

Brad
AVR Anthen AVM 60 Amp Emotiva XPA-7 & XPA-5 Sources Oppo 203, FireTV, FiOS
Speakers Atmos 7.2.4 - TruAudio B23-465s (LCRs), TruAudio B23-265s (SL/R & SB), Dual SVS PC-2000s (Subs), 4 In Ceilings
PJ JVC RS500 Screen 153" DIY 2.35:1 Spandex
My crazy long build Coffered Ceiling
bpassman is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply Dedicated Theater Design & Construction

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off