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Riser/step LED strip lighting accent lighting - suggestions please

Good day all! I am currently preparing to build my riser and have a question for those who have or know how to properly light the perimeter of a riser. I want to light this riser for effect and function as this riser will be a step up and I want to have the step well lit for guests.

Specifically, what LED lights are good for this application? Pref something that I can change colors and dim?

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there are a couple of issues with strip lights under the lip of a riser that you need to consider in your project.

First is the issue of the thickness of the carpet on the front edge of the riser, if you install the strip light too close to the face it will get hidden.
Second you don't want to see the light strip itself. you need to conceal it under the lip, one way to do this is to add a 2 inch tall lip to the edge of the 1 1/2 inch thick deck. That creates a recessed channel under the lip to hide the strip light.
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Thanks Big.

Should I try to accomplish this with some type of molding or per below? Somehow I think my plan below won't look good lol

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Though not the cheapest option in comparison to some of the cheap LED kits you can get on Amazon I would go with the Philips Hue light strips. They're compatible with a lot of home theater control systems like the Harmony Hub and work with the other Hue lighting products so you can sync the lights with your overhead lights or wall sconces if you use Hue bulbs in them. You'll also have full control over them via your phone or iPad which is a nice touch.

http://www2.meethue.com/en-us/produc...ightstrip-plus

For a cheaper option, though with less control capability there are plenty of options on Amazon. I believe the link below is similar to the ones I ordered and I will say they're fairly bright and have a nice variety of colors. They don't dim all that much though so these might actually be a little intense for floor lighting, but you can always try them out and with Amazon's return policy you'll have no issues if they don't work out.

https://www.amazon.com/Sunnest-Water...rds=led+strips
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Should I try to accomplish this with some type of molding or per below? Somehow I think my plan below won't look good lol
That would be a pretty tall lip with not a lot of room to attach the carpet under the lip. I would rip some FJ pine trim (1 1/4 thick) to two inches tall glue and screw to the plywood, round over the top edge.

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Though not the cheapest option in comparison to some of the cheap LED kits you can get on Amazon I would go with the Philips Hue light strips.

http://www2.meethue.com/en-us/produc...ightstrip-plus
really appreciate it Balkaran thanks!

This thing is a little confusing or maybe I'm missing it. So whats in the box is approx a 3'-6" light strip and you have to add in 3-6" segments? My riser is approx 27lf around...

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They're compatible with a lot of home theater control systems like the Harmony Hub and work with the other Hue lighting products so you can sync the lights with your overhead lights or wall sconces if you use Hue bulbs in them. You'll also have full control over them via your phone or iPad which is a nice touch.
Slightly off topic, what home theater control systems do you recommend? I am looking for an effective, value system to automate my HT lights from my iPad or Android phone as you stated. There are so many dif systems that I'm looking for someone who can vouch for one to give me a place to start?

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For a cheaper option, though with less control capability there are plenty of options on Amazon. I believe the link below is similar to the ones I ordered and I will say they're fairly bright and have a nice variety of colors. They don't dim all that much though so these might actually be a little intense for floor lighting, but you can always try them out and with Amazon's return policy you'll have no issues if they don't work out.

https://www.amazon.com/Sunnest-Water...rds=led+strips
Looks like a good solution but concerned they may be too bright. As you said I may have to try these out though and return as necessary.
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That would be a pretty tall lip with not a lot of room to attach the carpet under the lip. I would rip some FJ pine trim (1 1/4 thick) to two inches tall glue and screw to the plywood, round over the top edge.

Giving me approx 1/2" lip to conceal the lights behind; got it thanks Big.

Cantilever the front face of pine approx 2" out over front face of perimeter board?

As for the carpet, it will then get wrapped around the pine and attached to underside of pine?

The perimeter board vertical surface will get carpeted as well right?
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lol, looking at my diagram again makes me laugh now that I know the right way to do it hehe
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really appreciate it Balkaran thanks!

This thing is a little confusing or maybe I'm missing it. So whats in the box is approx a 3'-6" light strip and you have to add in 3-6" segments? My riser is approx 27lf around...



Slightly off topic, what home theater control systems do you recommend? I am looking for an effective, value system to automate my HT lights from my iPad or Android phone as you stated. There are so many dif systems that I'm looking for someone who can vouch for one to give me a place to start?



Looks like a good solution but concerned they may be too bright. As you said I may have to try these out though and return as necessary.
So answer your first question the lights come in 6'6" strips for $89.99 or 3'3" kits for $29.99 meaning you need 4 of the long kits and 1 short kit to do 27 feet. You'll also need to Hue Bridge to control it so factor in another $60. Total will come to around $450 for the lights and controller. Like I said not cheap unfortunately.

As for home control systems there are a ton to choose from. What you should get depends on what you want to control.

Logitech Harmony Elite - $350
Will control AV gear and select smart home products like the Hue lighting systems, Lutron Caseta lighting systems, August smart locks, etc.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/produc...-elite?crid=60

Logitech Harmony Hub - $100
Same as elite, but doesn't include a remote. You'll need to bring your own smartphone or tablet to use as the remote
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/produc...ny-hub?crid=60

Ray Super Remote - $250
Pretty much just controls AV gear, more limited than Harmony remotes
https://www.amazon.com/Ray-Super-Rem...y+super+remote

Savant - $499 and up
Very powerful, nice interface, true home automation
https://www.savant.com/

Crestron - N/A
Custom solution, can do pretty much all automation, requires an installer, very expensive
https://www.crestron.com/

I'm sure there are other options as well, but these are the ones I know best. It might be more helpful if you PM a list of gear that you want to control and I can make a better recommendation, but in general I would say the Harmony remotes will satisfy 95% of users.
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So answer your first question the lights come in 6'6" strips for $89.99 or 3'3" kits for $29.99 meaning you need 4 of the long kits and 1 short kit to do 27 feet. You'll also need to Hue Bridge to control it so factor in another $60. Total will come to around $450 for the lights and controller. Like I said not cheap unfortunately.

As for home control systems there are a ton to choose from. What you should get depends on what you want to control.

Logitech Harmony Elite - $350
Will control AV gear and select smart home products like the Hue lighting systems, Lutron Caseta lighting systems, August smart locks, etc.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/produc...-elite?crid=60

Logitech Harmony Hub - $100
Same as elite, but doesn't include a remote. You'll need to bring your own smartphone or tablet to use as the remote
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/produc...ny-hub?crid=60

Ray Super Remote - $250
Pretty much just controls AV gear, more limited than Harmony remotes
https://www.amazon.com/Ray-Super-Rem...y+super+remote

Savant - $499 and up
Very powerful, nice interface, true home automation
https://www.savant.com/

Crestron - N/A
Custom solution, can do pretty much all automation, requires an installer, very expensive
https://www.crestron.com/

I'm sure there are other options as well, but these are the ones I know best. It might be more helpful if you PM a list of gear that you want to control and I can make a better recommendation, but in general I would say the Harmony remotes will satisfy 95% of users.
Balkaran thanks I really appreciate it! I'll draft you a PM for your recommendation now thanks!
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I haven't bought anything, but have done a fair amount of research. Take a look at:

https://www.hitlights.com/home-theater.html

I believe the products they offer have everything Philips Hue offers (or pretty close) at a lower price. Might not be as integrated with home automation systems, but they offer much of the same features.
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Strip lights seem like a lot of work and not very clean. I too thought about this but ended up going with real led step lights.

Just wire them to an automated light switch of your choice.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003D...fQL&ref=plSrch
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I haven't bought anything, but have done a fair amount of research. Take a look at:

https://www.hitlights.com/home-theater.html

I believe the products they offer have everything Philips Hue offers (or pretty close) at a lower price. Might not be as integrated with home automation systems, but they offer much of the same features.
Thanks Fazz I'll look into it.
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Strip lights seem like a lot of work and not very clean. I too thought about this but ended up going with real led step lights.

Just wire them to an automated light switch of your choice.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003D...fQL&ref=plSrch
Another great option here. Very clean look, well done. Thanks for the tip Irving.

So you are somehow routing a hole in your vertical riser board and mounting the fixture inside that board?
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Yes I made cutouts for a 1 gang old work junction box with a skill saw.

Had to use longer screws however to grip the 2x.
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