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MPJ's Theater build

It's been a long journey to get where we are now in our house. My family has many hobbies including saltwater tanks, gaming, home theater and more which is why it makes sense to incorporate all of those things into our basement build. Like many of you fellow AVS members, I too have been lurking throughout this forum of incredible information over the years gathering as many ideas, tips and tricks from all of you as well as asking a million and a half questions throughout the way.

Questions I've asked throughout my research and build progress

How to secure projector mount to ceiling?

Chair rail height?

Acoustic treatment behind screen wall?

black and blue OR black and red??

Will the stage move?

What type of liner to hold sand in stage?

Stage height?

Carpet before or after false screen wall?

Column dimensions??

How far does your soffit come out from screen false wall?

Attach column to riser?

What LED strips do you guys use for long runs??

3" or 4" recessed lights in theater

LED soffit lights

Recessed lights in front of screen

Best popcorn butter?

Green Glue vs. Roofing Felt for stage/riser

Riser bass trap question

Recessed led's in soffits

Staggering drywall on OSB?

Rubber flooring question

Show me your recessed step lighting

Space between floor and drywall question..

What to put on concrete floor?

What caulk to use on OSB?

Stage and Riser gap question

First layer of plywood question

Led's around soffit question..

Atmos speaker placement question

How close can HDMI be to romex power wire?

Atmos speaker box hep

1/2" or 3/4" MDF for atmos speaker boxes??

Subwoofers on stage?

How much space between front and rear seats??

Plywood or drywall?

What's a good 4 zone programmable dimmer switch??

Where do you store the remotes??

Seatcraft Windsor vs. Grenada seats...Help me decide!!

Best seating options for $3,000

Return air question

How many dedicated breakers for an equipment room?

Venting equipment room?

Zone 2 help

Venting basement theater

So many obstacles so little time

Which Middle Atlantic Slim 5 rack??

Avs Forum t-shirts

Best in ceiling speakers for Atmos?

In a bit of a pickle with home theater decisions

Dolby Atmos demo disc for free



I've been working to finish the basement and saving up for the best gear I can get for our future theater. As of now, the theater will consist of the following:

Dimensions

Room: 20' long, 12' wide seating area, 14' wide screen area (after 1/2" plywood and 1/2" drywall)
Soffit: 11" wide x 7" tall
Riser: 12' wide x 8' deep x 10.75" tall
Columns: 15" wide x 6" deep
Stage: 14' wide x 4' deep x 8.25" tall


Building Supplies

2x4 studs
1/2" drywall
1/2" foam insulation boards
1/2" OSB boards
1/2" MDF board for soffit
3/4" MDF board for columns
12/2 Romex wire
2x10's for riser outer frame
2x8's for riser inner joists
2x8's for the stage
2x4's for stage step
3.5 ml plastic for sand liner
51 50 lb. bags of dry sand
MH Ready Patch
Infinite tubes of Liquid Nails
3 Dayus 36" X 4" bass trap linear grilles for riser
Quarter round trim
Crown molding
Corner trim
Half round trim for led's
Schlage matte black Plymouth keyed door knob with Camelot Rosette

Power

20 amp outlets
4 dedicated 20 amp breakers:

20 amp breaker for 3 subwoofer outlets
20 amp breaker for all lights and seat outlets
20 amp breaker for 2 outlets powering 3 Emotiva amps
20 amp breaker for rest of racked equipment


Soundproofing

15 gallons Green Glue
Green Glue dispensing gun
Solid core door
Acoustic rubber floor mat
Roofing felt
R-30 ceiling insulation
R-13 wall insulation


Lightning

Grafik Eye 3000 series
Lutron GRX-IT-WH wireless controller
hitlights.com 65' led strip light kit with 150w power supply
Recessed step lights
4" Lithonia ultra thin 3000k recessed LED lights
3" Lithonia ultra thin 3000k recessed LED lights
4 column Portfolio wall sconces


Thunder

Dual PB 12 plus SVS subs
SVS Ultra Center speaker
SVS Ultra Left/Right front speakers
4 Klipsch R3650 W-II in wall speakers for rear and side surround
4 Def Tech DI8R ceiling atmos speakers


Seating

5 Fusion Lagoon seats from Roman at rtheaters.com


Cables/Speaker Wire

500' 12G in-wall rated speaker wire from Monoprice
3 50' Mediabridge Ultra Series Subwoofer cables
20' Aurum Ultra series high speed HDMI cable with ethernet
2 6' Amazon Basics high speed HDMI cables


Equipment

Epson 8350 projector
Peerless PRG-UNV black projector mount
MA slim 5 rack
2 Emotiva xpa 5 amps
Emotiva xpa 100 amp
Oppo 103D blu ray olayer
Marantz AV7702 receiver
Monster power center
Great Northern popcorn machine w/ cart
Custom MA rack shelves


Screen

Still to be determined


Carpet

Joy Carpets Walk of Fame in black from flooringinc.com
https://www.flooringinc.com/carpet/j...me-carpet.html


Paint

flat Behr Dark Crimson red
flat Behr Black


During the years, I've been putting hours in this basement starting from nothing to what it is now. Some of you have seen what the basement used to look like and as of now....here's the transformation!!

There used to be a door at the bottom of the steps, so I ripped all that out and created an open area as well as an open stair ledge. At the bottom is a hutch in front of a large black curtain which hides the electric panels and water line entrance. Turn the corner and we have the poker table and the in-wall 65 gallon saltwater fish tank.

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We were contemplating for awhile what color we wanted to paint the bathroom. One day we were at Lowes, seen this red on a color card and splurged with a gallon. It turned out great with the dark bronze fixtures, the custom pallet wall and tile flooring.

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When we purchased this sectional from Weekends Only, we were under the impression that only 2 of the seats reclined. One day my niece was over playing the X Box with my son...they came running upstairs saying, "Did you know we have 3 recliners?" My first reaction, "what did you guys break?"..Come to find out there are actually 3 reclining seats!! So that's why my end was so heavy when my neighbor and myself hauled these down the stairs. The living room has the sectional to enjoy the X Box One and Amazon Firestick. A Denon receiver, Sony towers, center and sub woofer give an awesome gaming experience.


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Now we come to the 3 slate pool table which was given to me from a female co-worker who's ex husband had it in their basement. She decided she would rather have a treadmill so asked me if I wanted it for free if I came and took it apart. Gotta love a deal from a mad ex wife!! Also have the in-wall movie/snack shelving along with a Great Northern popcorn machine which sits by the theater entrance. The opposite side of the door is the ticket booth that seconds as access to the furnace air filter and the back of the media rack. I still need to install a black curtain behind the usher and I'd like to get a custom illuminated sign for the theater to put next to her.

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I hope you enjoy my theater build and look forward to any suggestions you guys may have. Post #2 is the most current up to date status of the build
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Let's begin this theater build!! Still need to figure a few things out with what I have to work with as far as soffit dimensions and ac venting. My theater gets about 2' wider about 8' from the screen wall to accommodate for the house support beam. I'm thinking of building a wall angled and running the return vent down and installing registers in the soffits. I plan on having soffit lights, 4 theater columns containing the surround speakers as well as a sconce on each, step and stage lighting.

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Here's the opening where the equipment rack will go.
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MP...you definately have the " wow factor" so far. Bathroom and the fish tank install rocks. I have plans for a ticket booth like yours as well. Do you have a layout planned for your theater? Keep up the nice work.
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Did I just get a hell of a deal?? Been searching and researching for awhile now on the best lighting switch for the theater. Been looking to control 4 zones for the step lights, sconces, stage lighting and soffit lights. The contenders were either a Grafik Eye or Insteon switches. I think I just scored a fantastic deal on Ebay!! A few days ago, there was a brand new GRX-3504 I seen that was in the middle of an auction. Another bidder almost got it last second but I just won this for $144 shipped!! That deal just seems too good but the description says it's unused.

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Wow! Great room/area. Congrats!

But with Dual PB 12 I'm a little worried about the marine life in your tank.

Great tank setup by the way.....
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Well back to the drawing board with a light switch. The Ebay photos showed the box being 120V and after the transaction, I was informed this was 220V...I didn't look close enough to the actual sticker on the unit itself. The seller was very cool about it and refunded me the money which is good.

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All aboard the Meyer train! Now we need to get home and wait for the semi to deliver the chairs from rtheaters.
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After multiple trips up and down the stairs carrying down supplies, the seats arrived before we could take a break. But, we got everything into the basement!! Going to start piecing this together within next couple weeks...finally starting to get somewhere

A few years ago, we got our son a radio flyer wagon with off-road tires. I'm pretty sure we've used it more than him. This thing is great for hauling the pool sand filter to the garage after swim season and looks like we found a good use for it today

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Need help planning the atmos speaker installation options. Here's an idea I think I've come up with, but want some input. The room will be plywood, green glue then drywall. Could I build speaker boxes ontop of the plywood, secure them with 2x2's, and install the plywood where each speaker box fits between my joists with room for ceiling insulation to help with sound cancelation? Hope this drawing makes a litte sense. I will be putting stuffing in the speaker boxes as well. Also...should the boxes be ported or sealed?

There will be 4 atmos speakers. This drawing shows 2 speaker boxes bounted on plywood, 1 speaker for front row and 1 for back row

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Today's progress, I cut in the return register duct and ran it across the joists and down where I'll build a wall. Still thinking subwoofer placement ideas and what to fill stage/riser with. I ordered a 3rd subwoofer cable today so I can run that behind back row of seats in case the sub will perform better there. The 2 subwoofer options are:

1. On the stage behind false wall/screen facing each other

2. One on right side of stage behind screen facing the left side and other subwoofer on the riser opposite side of theater facing the screen

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I was measuring for optimal atmos placement and came up with the perfect plan...I think 🤔🤔. I know this looks confusing but after measuring, measuring and measuring some more, I think I have the blueprints for theater....except stage which will be figured out soon. The atmos speakers are able to be installed exactly 2' in front of the center of each row. Thoughts?
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Here's what was waiting for me when I got home today. I was able to grab this on Ebay for less than $200

Grafik Eye 3000 series

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Made great progress today. Built 4 atmos speaker boxes and mounted them between the joists using 2x4's.

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I adjusted the position of each atmos speaker. They are now 6' apart in each row and 3 1/2' in front of each row of seats

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Past couple days have been extremely busy but I did make time to get a nice chunk knocked out of the process. With the help of my wife, we were able to fully insulate the walls and ceiling, then I started the first layer of OSB plywood!! The plan was to get most of the room finished with OSB, however it's much more time consuming than I thought compared to when I hung the drywall in the rest of the basement.

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Here is the back wall where the media rack will be on the right
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Any chance you could update to another picture hosting service or upload them directly to the forum? photobucket has kicked the bucket.


BTW, thank you very much for this thread! I now have it bookmarked so I can study all the other threads as I upgrade my basement/family room.
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Absolutey. Here is the photo from that post of the back wall. I will take more photos on Sunday as i plan on investing a few hours on the OSB board

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Made a little progress today. Finished almost 3 walls, then ran out of OSB board and just about done with the original 25lb. bucket of drywall screws I purchased when i started the basement. Going to call it a day and turn on Discovery Channel for Shark Week!

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Today, the OSB stage was finally finished, I built the corner wall for the return vent, stuffed that with insulation and tested the HDMI before drywall goes up. Also the Klipsch in wall speakers arrived which will be installed in the side and rear columns.

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Tonight, I was able to paint the return vent flat black and after 10 tubes of caulk, all the OSB board and the floor is now sealed. Not going to be able to work on the theater for at least a week due to having a busy schedule so tomorrow, I plan on relaxing by having bbq and inviting the neighbors over which my strategy is to talking him into attending my drywall hauling party next Sunday . Hopefully he'll fall for that one
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Looking good - the OSB everywhere will make hanging everything really easy!
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I was just talking about that with my wife today. Going to pick up the drywall tomorrow and renting the lift on Saturday.

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Picked up the drywall today. Going to start hanging on Sunday
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Had a huge 4 day sale at work this week so I wasn't able to work on theater until today. Our sale started Wednesday and ended yesterday, each day was 13 hours!! I got a call from my drywaller on Friday, said he had a cancellation so he can start taping/mudding next Saturday. I was finally off today and was able to get a majority of the drywall hung. So far, I've used 7 gallons of green glue on the ceiling and a portion of 2 walls. Not sure if I'm using too much or just the right amount, but my main focus was the ceiling anyway.

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Was able to make more progress today with drywall. I ran out of screws and will be short by 1 board so I'll finish that Thursday. I'm hoping I have enough Green Glue, there's about 3 gallons left and I have 3 boards and the riser to use it on....going to be close!!
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I have subscribed. I see you have a return, do you have a supply as well for your room. I was also wondering since you have it mostly sealed up, is it warm in the room? I am trying to figure out my HVAC for my theater and basement now. Did you decouple the walls from the ceiling.

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Yes the supply flex tube is dangling from the ceiling now. Once the drywall is taped/mudded, I plan on building the stage, then the soffit going around the room where the supply vents will be installed. The rooms temperature is actually very comfortable.

Finally the drywall in the theater is done. There's about 2 gallons of green glue left which should be plenty for the riser and possibly the stage

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Yes the supply flex tube is dangling from the ceiling now. Once the drywall is taped/mudded, I plan on building the stage, then the soffit going around the room where the supply vents will be installed. The rooms temperature is actually very comfortable.

Finally the drywall in the theater is done. There's about 2 gallons of green glue left which should be plenty for the riser and possibly the stage

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Nice! Are you going to build a duct muffle for the flex duct? I was told that I may get noise from my HVAC system since my theater is so close to the supply plenum even if I use flex duct. I have the space to build it I just don't want to if I don't need it. Also when you cut a hole in through the OSB/GG/Drywall it creates a weak spot for sound so I am told.

Are you lights going into the soffit as well?

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