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SothothYog's Avatar SothothYog 10:13 PM 01-27-2006
Hopefully I won't get flamed for asking, but I can't find this in the forums...

Anyone got any pictures of the Grafilk Eye control panel in the color selection you can choose from? The Lutron web site only lists them.

I'm putting in a six zone system, and I'm thinking about black casing. Anyone have this in their set up?

Cheers

SY

GREENGA's Avatar GREENGA 07:50 AM 01-28-2006
You could go to your Lutron Distributor and ask for one of the Lutron Catalogs. The catalog will have all of the colors displayed and listed; and the colors are pretty close to the real thing.

I think it's called "Lutron - Residential Lighting Controls Catalog". It's about 1/2" - 3/4" thick.

HTH

Oh, you may even be able to get Lutron to send one out to you. Lutron's pricing may be a bit high, but I have never, personally, known them to fall down in the customer service area.
funlvr1965's Avatar funlvr1965 08:54 PM 01-29-2006
anyone know where I can get a real good deal on a 3104 grafik eye? best price ive gotten so far is about $541.00
JaserLet's Avatar JaserLet 09:18 PM 01-31-2006
I am almost ready to pull the pin and go with a Grafik Eye system for my home theater. It seems to be the most reliable way to do these sorts of things. However I am tempted to go for more than just a 4-zone for the theater itself. Since my home theater is actually a portion of the basement and has no distinct doorway I am thinking of running all of the open living areas of the basement (the family/theater area, the fireplace room area and the stairway landing area) from a Grafik Eye system. But this will probably require more than 6 zones...

Can I use two 4-zone Grafik Eye systems, one for the theater area, and one for the rest of the basement... and link them together so some scenes modify all 8 zones instead of just the 4 from that controller? I would like to put a SeeTouch upstairs at the top of the stairs so I can turn the basement lights on to a certain scene before walking down the steps. So maybe my exact quesion is this ---- what are the limitations of having two 4-zone GE systems + 1 SeeTouch all linked together?
funlvr1965's Avatar funlvr1965 09:29 PM 01-31-2006
what youre asking seems possible, the grafik eye system is pretty expandable I would check with lutron before purchasing anything, some members here seem to be pretty experienced also, I will be putting my order in for a 4 zone system tomorrow, my theater is a dedicated room so no need for more than that, low voltage 2 button backlit switch at the top of the stairs and a lutron 4 scene remote as a backup to my nevo sl touch screen remote
Tweakophyte's Avatar Tweakophyte 06:35 AM 02-01-2006
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Originally Posted by JaserLet View Post

I am almost ready to pull the pin and go with a Grafik Eye system for my home theater. It seems to be the most reliable way to do these sorts of things. However I am tempted to go for more than just a 4-zone for the theater itself. Since my home theater is actually a portion of the basement and has no distinct doorway I am thinking of running all of the open living areas of the basement (the family/theater area, the fireplace room area and the stairway landing area) from a Grafik Eye system. But this will probably require more than 6 zones...

Can I use two 4-zone Grafik Eye systems, one for the theater area, and one for the rest of the basement... and link them together so some scenes modify all 8 zones instead of just the 4 from that controller? I would like to put a SeeTouch upstairs at the top of the stairs so I can turn the basement lights on to a certain scene before walking down the steps. So maybe my exact quesion is this ---- what are the limitations of having two 4-zone GE systems + 1 SeeTouch all linked together?

You can tell each GE to "listen" to the seetouch panel. That panel should probably be for scenes 5-8 (or 9-12, etc.), and that grouping is set via a dip-switch. You can have one GE listen to the other as well. The problem is it will always listen to it and since you'll be controlling it from one GE, it will push scenes 1-4, and possibly 5-8 (via a remote).

What might be better is to get two seetouch panels. Put one at the bottom of the stairs and have all GEs listen to it for scenes 5-8. If you like you can have redundant scenes. When you go down stairs you can turn them all off, and you can also have regular scenes for the rest of the room trigger some kind of entrance scene for your HT. Put another in yout HT and have only your outer-room GE listen to it. By the way, when you wire these you daisy chain them all together, so you can figure out your combinations later.

Make sense?

I have a similar set-up, but both of my seetouch panels are at the bottom of the stair. One ST controls scenes 1-4 of the outer rooms, and the other controls scenes 5-8 in the HT. Since the kids (ages 1-3) like to go down and hit the buttons, I have it set up so the HT goes into ambience mode for the buttons they like.
cinemascope's Avatar cinemascope 08:56 PM 02-01-2006
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anyone know where I can get a real good deal on a 3104 grafik eye? best price ive gotten so far is about $541.00

That is actually a KILLER deal... You do know that they retail at $850, right??
funlvr1965's Avatar funlvr1965 05:36 AM 02-02-2006
yes I do and I placed my order for the 3104 yesterday with my lutron dealer and actually got it for $ 525.00 also placed and order for 8 scene remote and lvoltage 2 button backlit remote... and masonary box...total $ 812.00..... sweett!!!!
DMF's Avatar DMF 02:10 PM 02-09-2006
Well, I hate to say it, but that's almost $300 for two remotes and a $15 box. (Or was it one remote and a wallstation?) Or are you in one of those 8% sales tax states?

Best I've seen on the 3104 is $500, though, so you did well there.

funlvr1965's Avatar funlvr1965 03:23 PM 02-09-2006
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Well, I hate to say it, but that's almost $300 for two remotes and a $15 box. (Or was it one remote and a wallstation?) Or are you in one of those 8% sales tax states?

Best I've seen on the 3104 is $500, though, so you did well there.


It was for one 8 scene remote and one wallstation, doesnt seem to be any big discount on the remotes, I could have saved on a 4 scene remote but my wife said I should get the 8 scene remote, heres the breakdown

grafik eye 3104 4 zone $525.00
masonary box $4.30
2 button seetouch wallstation $158.00
8 scene remote $125.00

just picked everything up today and a friend of mine is an electrician and is going to wire it up for me this weeknend, best part is hes going to do it for FREEEEE!!!!
DMF's Avatar DMF 03:44 PM 02-09-2006
Before you get too happy, find cable that will connect the wallstation to the GE. You want the -346S. See attached.

 

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funlvr1965's Avatar funlvr1965 03:54 PM 02-09-2006
my electrician says he has this cable on his truck
funlvr1965's Avatar funlvr1965 10:46 AM 02-11-2006
well my electrician has just shown up so we are starting the installation of the 3104 and the seetouch 2 button pad, since the wiring for one one of the zones is seperate from the rest that will have to be pulled into the grafik eye, there will be some rewiring involved to get it there
funlvr1965's Avatar funlvr1965 10:33 PM 02-11-2006
well the install of the grafik eye 3104 & 2 button touchpad is complete and my electrcian did a great job, this was his first grafik eye that he had installed, the system works great and I will experiment with some programming when I get some free time, for now im just using the default scene settings, I will also post some pics, thanks for all who provided helpful tips and gotchas to watch out for
funlvr1965's Avatar funlvr1965 11:05 AM 02-12-2006
here are some pics from the install of the grafikeye 3104 which was completed yesterday (saturday) including the old x-10 lightswitches, there was a lot more to the installation than what the pics show but you get the idea...install was about 6 hours and was a free install, he would just like to sit in the berklines and watch a movie....
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robcaavs's Avatar robcaavs 11:35 PM 02-20-2006
(I hope it's ok to post here)

Due to a mistake on my electrician's part (I had ordered two 3506), I ended up with 2 Lutron Grafik eyes model 3106, that I cannot use in my system. Can't return without losing too much money (Lutron return policies on open boxes are pretty painful).

Before putting them for sale on eBay, I thought that someone here might be interested. If you live in the Seattle area and are looking for one or two 3106 (perfectly working, with all the manuals), please send me a PM
Stima's Avatar Stima 08:14 AM 02-21-2006
Ygpm
DMF's Avatar DMF 09:24 AM 02-21-2006
Rob, why can't you use them? Do you have a GRX-PRG?

(And no, you shouldn't post for-sale offers here.)
robcaavs's Avatar robcaavs 11:00 PM 02-21-2006
Yep, I have a GRX-PRG, and will integrate the 2 3506 as part of my home automation (mostly based on Insteon products, with some help from the Apex Destiny 6100 alarm system)... I just have, oh, roughly half a million lines of code to write to make it all work :-)

Apologies for the abuse...
redsing's Avatar redsing 07:29 AM 03-17-2006
Could someone tell me if I can use a 3506 bought in the US in an installation in the UK?
DMF's Avatar DMF 01:07 PM 03-17-2006
Not a U.S-model 3506. You have 220V mains, right? With 50Hz AC? We use 110V 60Hz. And I think UK requires an integral box so that the hots aren't exposed.

There is a code that gets appended to the full model number that specifies a UK version. Check the Lutron web site.
movieguy2001's Avatar movieguy2001 08:42 AM 03-29-2006
Anyone know where I can get the standard 3506 faceplate with the white/translucent front? I think the model number would be GRX-3105-T-WH.

Just looking for an on-line dealer that might be able to help.
DMF's Avatar DMF 01:13 PM 03-29-2006
You want the faceplate or the whole unit?
movieguy2001's Avatar movieguy2001 01:39 PM 03-29-2006
Just the faceplate.
DMF's Avatar DMF 09:55 AM 03-30-2006
Contact Lutron directly. Be prepared to bend over.
vfrjim's Avatar vfrjim 05:03 AM 03-31-2006
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Contact Lutron directly. Be prepared to bend over.

Is the price that bad? I too would like to change mine.
BillW's Avatar BillW 05:53 PM 04-06-2006
Movieguy,
I will have a white on white 3106 plate in a couple of weeks. I end up with extras after the engraving is done. If you can wait that long?
movieguy2001's Avatar movieguy2001 09:13 AM 04-07-2006
BillW - you haev a PM. Thanks.
cinemascope's Avatar cinemascope 03:12 PM 04-13-2006
You should be able to get a cover in any color for under $100 shipped (way under in many cases)
I have a few colors in stock.
vfrjim's Avatar vfrjim 05:21 PM 04-14-2006
Looking for an All-Black plate, if someone knows where to get one.
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