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Yes, neither is the problem here. It's fade FROM OFF to any scene that is hardcoded to 3 seconds. I want my cinema lights to come on gradually when a screening ends, and the 3 second fade IN is a bit harsh after two hours in the dark. The scene's fade-in time only apply when going between scenes, not when going from OFF. It seems I'll just keep using my current workaround.

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I am looking for a single solution and wondering if anyone here has any suggestions.

I would like a lighting controller that will dim six zones, but the zones are a mix, some bulbs (GU10 led lamps) and the other three zones will be RGB LED color changing strips. When I enter my theater a keypad on the wall with like 3 or 4 presets. But also, be able to control the lights with my URC MX-990 remote via RF to IR repeater. The main light controller is in the equipment room so not inside the theater.

I currently have an older Grafik Eye installed. Its an old GRX-IA-6. Its only currently controlling the three zones of bulbs. I have not bought any of the RGB Strips yet because I don’t know which controller and transformer to get that works with whatever Grafik eye I use. I have gotten mixed info that I can do what I want with my current controler, but then other people have told me I need a newer QS model Grafik eye with DMX controlers…but even then they are not sure sence they have no experience with RGB strips.

Yes I do understand that the Grafik eye nor my URC remote will be able to control the color mix of my RGB Strips. That I can change with an app on my cell phone. But it would be great is when someone comes into the theater, pushes on button and everything comes on to pre-set light levels. That’s the goal. One press.

Im open to any ideas that someone has installed, set-up, and works.

Thank you all in advance
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I am looking for a single solution and wondering if anyone here has any suggestions.

I would like a lighting controller that will dim six zones, but the zones are a mix, some bulbs (GU10 led lamps) and the other three zones will be RGB LED color changing strips. When I enter my theater a keypad on the wall with like 3 or 4 presets. But also, be able to control the lights with my URC MX-990 remote via RF to IR repeater. The main light controller is in the equipment room so not inside the theater.

I currently have an older Grafik Eye installed. Its an old GRX-IA-6. Its only currently controlling the three zones of bulbs. I have not bought any of the RGB Strips yet because I don’t know which controller and transformer to get that works with whatever Grafik eye I use. I have gotten mixed info that I can do what I want with my current controler, but then other people have told me I need a newer QS model Grafik eye with DMX controlers…but even then they are not sure sence they have no experience with RGB strips.

Yes I do understand that the Grafik eye nor my URC remote will be able to control the color mix of my RGB Strips. That I can change with an app on my cell phone. But it would be great is when someone comes into the theater, pushes on button and everything comes on to pre-set light levels. That’s the goal. One press.

Im open to any ideas that someone has installed, set-up, and works.

Thank you all in advance
First and foremost the newer Grafik Eye (GE) QS is more tolerant of LED lighting then most, but you still may need some ELV dimmers on some LED which means adding an interface to each GE zone that needs one. For this reason I would recommend the Radio Ra 2 (RR2) system instead. You'll spend a little more but open up the possibility to control your entire home, or even use Google Alexa/Echo or Apple Homekit / Siri Voice control. In RR2 you would just have individual dimmers in your equipment room and a keypad in the theater (and/or APP control). If one or all of your LED require ELV then you only need to change to the appropriate dimmer model. No additional modules or wiring. The RGB is a hang up depending on how you want to control it. If you just want to use your RGB controller and a RR2 Switch or switched GE zone you could set up a scene that would turn on your RGB controller and if yours has that function it will return to wherever it was last. Not all RGB controllers have a memory though, some wills always come on at a default to some color, fade or flash.

The RGB w/ Grafik Eye is tricky but they (Lutron) make a DMX interface you could use with a newer Grafik Eye QS. Often this is too complicated for the average user. But it is possible and just takes a bit of time to set up. It would mean you need a DMX capable RGB controller though. The DMX function is probably the best way to handle it but you may lose your APP control unless you can find a DMX controller with app. Additionally it is only available when used with GE and GE DMX interface. Lutron has a free software to program this, but you may need to educate yourself on DMX (DMX512?).

On a more simple use we have done a single zone out of the Grafik Eye to a Magnetic Driver for the RGB. Between the driver and RGB we have a triple stack switch to turn on/off each color manually, and dim as a regular zone. This would be if you seldom changed colors. You could substitute this function of the with 3 relays and automate that to some degree as well. This approach(relays) is more suitable to use Radio Ra 2 as the VCRX piece can be used as contact closure for the relays. Or the New QS grafik Eye is RR2 capable anyway.

If you want to maintain the features of your RGB controller like fades, you'll have to power through the Grafik Eye as a switched zone only. Additionally you will only be able to dim that through your RGB controller app.

There are a couple companies doing some 3rd party stuff for this purpose also, but they are $$$
http://www.aionled.com
www.integratedledcontrols.com

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