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Edit: Room is 95% Done.
Editing to add some before and after photos....Build Log from the start continues below :
Also....to answer a common question, The Pit is my wife's name for the room as in...
"Are you going to spend another night down there working in that Pit ?"


BEFORE:


AFTER:




Construction has started in our Home Theater Project. We are building a dedicated theater in an unfinished part of our basement. Half of the basement is already finished and will be converted into a toy room for the kids. Therefore, the stairs, bathroom, etc are already in place so construction will consist of building just the theater and bar/concession area. The unfinished part of the basement (37 X 13) currently opens into two additional rooms. The first room is 10X12 that sits under our sun room. This room will serve as the equipment room. The second room is 12X18 utility room and contains the furnace and hot water heater. This room will also serve as storage. We will be adding a new door into the utility room so it can be accessed without going through the theater.

We moved into this house in October of 2004, and I have reading the forum and planning this Home Theater since about then. Much thanks to all of the forum members who have posted and/or answered my questions on design, construction, etc. I hope to be able to do the same for other members as well from what I learn on this project.


The layout I designed for the theater can be seen below (minus the bar/concession area). The layout was basically dictated by the 3 foundation walls and the other finished part of the basement. This left a 37X13 space to work with. The entry into the theater will consist of a 8X12 bar/concession area that will open into the 29X13 Home Theater.

Additional Inspiriation for the theater layout and column design was taken from Francis Ford Coppola's home theater that can be seen pictured here:

http://www.stevecaseydesign.com/dlahd2ksys.pdf


This add was actually in an old Home Theater magazine that I cut out and saved.

Home Theater Specs: 29X13 Dedicated Front Projection Home Theater with finished dimensions of approx 28.5 X 12.5. Sound control will be addressed with RSIC clips for the side wall framing (DC04) and for the ceiling (DC01), double layer 5/8 drywall and green glue on walls and ceiling. The acoustical treatment will consist of the standard linacoustic/batting covered with GOM.

Other Specs (Original from 1/06) :

Audio: 7.1 System (Paradigm Studio 100's)
Projector: TBD (currently using Sanyo Z2)
Screen: Carada 110" diag Brilliant White.
Light Control: (X-10 system. 3 zones (2 for recessed, 1 for wall sconces)
Seating: 2 rows of 3 Berkline 90's w/ auto recline and bass shakers
Riser: Riser for 2nd Row of seats. Height 14in.
Stage: Stage and proscenium. Paradigm 100's will be behind Proscenium.
PreAmp/Amp: Fosgate Audionics FAP-T1+/Sherbourn 7/2100A
DVD: HTPC (already built) with MCE 2005 and My Movies for ripped DVD collection
TIVO: HD Tivo + MCE's HD ability.
Multichannel Audio: Pioneer Elite 59avi.


Here is the design and layout for the theater:




The biggest obstacle in the project was the HVAC ductwork (and returns) that ran through the basement. To tackle this, we had the ductwork re-routed and moved to the side wall. We will cover the trunk in a soffit, and build a matching one on the other side. There is also a support beam that runs across the room (towards the rear) We will build a soffit around this as well, and connect it to side soffits. Once the stage is completed, we will finish the soffits to a complete square and add a few recessed lights for the stage.

In the location that the HVAC trunk ran under the suport beam, we are going to build a small bookcase. I'm hoping that once the soffits and bookcase are completd, it will look like we designed the room that way, and you won't be able to tell we hid the HVAC trunk inside. Here are pics of the re-routed HVAC trunk and place where it goes under the support beam:



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post #2 of 110 Old 01-11-2006, 08:06 AM
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Good luck! I have ductwork to deal with in my basement too.
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What part of Cincinnati are you in? I'm in the Milford area. Have you looked into the Lutron system for controlling the lighting?
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Timon,

I'm in West Chester by 747 and Tylersville. I did look into the Lutron system, but I've been messing with X-10 for years now and have all of the switches I need already. I probably would have went that route as I do like the system, but saving the money allowed me to put $$ towards the sound isolation (green glue and RSIC clips). I've also got an Ocelot X-10 controller that I am going to use for automating both the lighting and all of the A/V equipment with my HTPC.

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Have you found any local suppliers for accoustical treatment parts (ex, OC 703, or mineral wool, I think that's what it is called.)? I wanted to go the GG route, but the budget (approval committee) wouldn't go for it. I started construction on my room this weekend. I was able to get 2 walls up.
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Timon,

Yes. Although I did end up spending quite a bit of time looking locally.

For Mineral Wool, go to M&M drywall. HD and Lowes had no idea what I was talking about.
For USG acoustic caulk, go to Nextgen Building Supply...they are right next to the Union Terminal.
For Linacoustic, go to Specialty Products & Insulation.
And, last but not least, for wire, connects, bass shakers, etc, go to Parts Express. They are in Springboro, and you can buy just about everything from the catalog from the showroom.

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Here are a few more picutes of the unfinished area:

This will be the Home Theater room. You can see the future equipment room off to the left. Access will be through a 32" solid core poplar door with a threshold and weather stripping for sound isoloation.



The back wall does have a cutout for the fireplace above. Also, the Electrical Panel, Satellite Wiring, Security, and gas piping for the fireplace are all along the back wall. Therefore, the screen wall will be built out from the back allowing access behind it. A proscenium will cover the open space to the left and right of the screen wall as you can see on the plans above.




This is a shot from the screen wall looking towards the front of the theater and the space where the bar/concession area will be. The utlity room for the furnace and water heater are off to the left, and will be covered by a wall.




Here is a shot of the mess of HVAC ductwork that we cleaned up. Before there were 2 seperate pipes that dropped down and were really in the way. We re-worked them through the joists.


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Glad to see someone in Cincinnati! I'm on the west side, Covedale to be exact.
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Whew....Been a while, but I do have some updates. The theater is moving along. Here are some pictures of framing, etc.

Framing Started. Walls taking shape:



Framing around the HVAC ductwork (to be a soffit)



RSIC clips in Action:



From the Front Wall looking back towards the bar/lobby area. Support beam wil be included in the soffit that will surround the theater proper.


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Good to see some Cinci people here. Good Luck on your construction Barhoram!!!

I live in Hebron-NKY now, but just finish signing a contract for building new house in West chester, its Dress house off of 747 (Smith Road, Village of providence - Subdivision).

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Good luck on the build. There's more and more of us popping up around here.
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My uncle lives in Mason, right outside Cincy. I looove Cincinnati...it's > Columbus.


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I spent the first 19 years of my life in West Chester, Ohio. Still have friends there. Living outside of Indianapolis now. Had to get closer to home after living in Houston for 5 yrs. Ugh.

Would you mind posting a link to where you buy RSIC clips? I'd like to take a look at them out of curiosity. How much extra cost does it add to the room construction to use them?

Looks like a solid design so far.
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I spent the first 19 years of my life in West Chester, Ohio. Still have friends there. Living outside of Indianapolis now. Had to get closer to home after living in Houston for 5 yrs. Ugh.

Would you mind posting a link to where you buy RSIC clips? I'd like to take a look at them out of curiosity. How much extra cost does it add to the room construction to use them?

Looks like a solid design so far.

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bpape sells them and has the best price that I found. Dennis Erskine sells them too and the price is close. I used the DC04 clips in my room and took a number of pics of them. Check out this post in my HT thread

I haven't installed the regular RSIC clips. The L-Shaped ones are DC-04 clips and are used for walls, garage door openers, etc.

The manufacturer is PAC International
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Nice shots. Thanks for showing those to me. I probably won't get to build another theater for years but I am already thinking about it . It's a sickness, I know. Glad I am in good company though. Haha
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Good luck with the build barhoram. I just moved away from Cincinnati last spring. Technically we lived in Maineville, just behind Kings Island. GE was my first job out of college. Pretty good first job. Its just my luck that the Bengals become respectable the season that I leave.
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Great to see some interest in my thread/theater build. Things have progressed a bit since my last update....new pics coming soon!

I will see If I can find a shot of one of the DC-01's used for the ceiling. You can see a shot of the DC-04's used to attach the framing to the foundation (see above). I think the total cost for all of the clips was about $800. I used approx 100 of the DC-04's to attach the framing to the foundation walls, to build the soffits, and to attach the sound-proof lighting boxes we built. Approx 100 of the DC-01's were used for the ceiling. The DC-04's are great beacuse the L-shape is very versatile.

Check back for an update with more pics soon!

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Time for some updates:

Back Wall (Will build a screen wall with access behind in front of this wall later):




Framing Completed: (looking through door from bar/lobby into the theater)




Insulation started, Drywall delivered:



(We framed around the bend in the ductwork, and will build a bookcase here on the side wall. Pulled 2 sets of components and and HDMI cable from the equipment room to the bookcase). You can also see the 2 sets of wire runs for the bass shakers that will be installed in the Berkline seats later.



More Insulation.(looking towards back wall). You can see the Channel attached to the RSIC clips on the ceiling:



4" recessed IC Air Tight Halo lights in the boxes build for sound isolation. Have some additional pictures of the boxes themselves...but can't find them at the moment.




More pictures hopefully tonite.

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More picture updates:

Insulation in the bar/lobby area (sink to be removed soon)



Box for access to projector and conduit. Cables pulled through the conduit....mount will screw into threaded end of the conduit.




Insulation finished. Drywall arrived (from back of thetaer...looking towards screen wall).



From Screen Wall towards front of the theater.


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Here are a couple more pictures that I found of the framing and electric completed:







Constructing the boxes to help sound proof the Halo 4" recessed lights:


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Equipment List Update:


Audio: 7.1 System (Paradigm) Purchaced.
Studio 100's for Mains (black ash), CC570 (Rosenut) for Center, ADP470's for side surrounds. Studio 20's (Rosenut) for rear surrounds
Projector: TBD (currently using Sanyo Z2)
Screen: Carada 110" diag Brilliant White. Purchaced. Nice Screen
Light Control: (X-10 system. 3 zones (2 for recessed, 1 for wall sconces)
Seating: 2 rows of 3 Berkline 90's w/ auto recline and bass shakers. Purchaced. Installing shakers now.
Riser: Riser for 2nd Row of seats. Height 14 inch.
Stage: Stage and proscenium. Paradigm 100's will be behind Proscenium.
PreAmp/Amp: Fosgate Audionics FAP-T1+/Sherbourn 7/2100A
DVD: HTPC (already built) with MCE 2005 and My Movies for ripped DVD collection
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Multichannel Audio: Pioneer Elite 59Avi.

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I live just up 747 from you..near milikin..you are doing great work. I finished my "HT" a couple of monthes ago, but i was on a sever budget and basically just framed in a room in the basement, and stuck in a screen and PJ...now i am finishing up the rest of the basement with dreams of a pool table..but i am not sure one will fit. Great seeing your'se come along!!
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Looks like you'll have a really nice space when you're done. I also think you'll like the equipment you've put together - though I've not heard the Fosgate piece personally.

Good luck and keep the pics coming.

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Looking good!

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Project is looking great! Keep up the good work. I love the idea of the bookcase to hide the duct issue.
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Looks great, you guys with the basements make me jealous with all this room you have for bar areas and etc in the rear.

Wish Texas was a basement state.

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Keep up the good work!!
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A couple of more pictures:

Recessed Light and Soundproof box installed. Attached to joists with RSIC clips:




Another shot of the access box and conduit for the projector and mount. Pulled wires through the couduit (component, HDMI, DVI, Cat5, and RS232) to equipment room.
You can see the flex HVAC duct that we installed for all new and existing ductwork in the theater area.


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Putting the finishing touches on the Insulation.

Security System panel framed and insulated. The gaps will be filled in and the panel will be covered (screwed, but still accessable as we don't acccess the panel often) with a MDF green glue sandwich.




Cleaning up the wiring runs into the equipment room. The metal quad outlet box is the dedicatd 20 amp for the equipment (minus the amps). The white outlet box on the right is the dedicated circuit(s) for the Sherbourn Amp. The white outlet box on the left is tied into the lighting circut, and will be used for the X-10 module needed for lighting control. The plug to the far left is hard wired to the outlet located at the projector and will be plugged into the surge protection with the rest of the equipment.




Closeup of the hard wired plug for the projector:


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I didn't think you could run standard appliance cord in conduit/inwall.

Looking good, you have got a nice size space for you HT

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