Originally Posted by Mark P
Actually they are prosumer as they get, I demoed them when they were new at 6K and they had a brilliant picture but their P2 cards were awkwardly expensive for no more than what you got from them.
You can get them for 3K-4K now and atleast a month ago their cards were still half that price for 16 minutes of video ( this is off memory, and an older by the minute one at that) The one I demoed for a couple days was extremelly heavy ( even my crane had a slight flex at quick pan to 15' high under its weight.
I think you and I have a different definition of prosumer. Prosumer is generally the upper end of consumer equipment that is used by some pros. There are no real "consumers" using the HVX-200, so it isn't prosumer
but just plain pro.
I still see them selling for $5995 at B&H. I think the prices you are seeing would have to be gray market - I got mine for about $4200 but I bought it in Japan. A quick search on Froogle doesn't show anything in the $3K-4K range except for the Chrosziel 450-HVX200K2 which isn't even the camera but a matte box with french flags. Hell, you want to gripe about the cost of a screen, look at how much the french charge for a flag.
16 minutes of video on P2 can be done on 2 x 8GB cards which are $1150 each now - a good price drop from when they first came out. That is, of course shooting 1080p or 720p60. If you shoot 720p24N, then you can get 40 minutes on it but then you are down to 720p and at 24fps at that.
The low res LCD does suck, but how the heck are they going to get an LCD that is that small and have that high a resolution. Rather than use a laptop, you can get an 8" LCD outboard monitor. You need to have at least 1/4 HD resolution if you want to have a chance at maintaining good focus in HD.
I wouldn't call less than 7 pounds extremely heavy, but yes it isn't light - especially compared to all the palmcorders that people are getting used to. All in all, I think it is a smokin' machine, but it certainly isn't geared towards everybody - certainly not the videographer crowd and not even the hard core consumer. P2 workflow is great, but it is geared towards the crowd that is used to working with film, not towards those working with miniDV.
Nothing wrong with miniDV except the bitrate in my mind. I would be an HDV advocate if they could get their bitrate up, but 25mbit just isn't enough - especially when there is likely going to be a recompress downstream for any pro work.